From tompoe at meltel.net Sun Nov 1 00:52:27 2015 From: tompoe at meltel.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 00:52:27 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] will FCC rules relegate linux to virtual machines only? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5635A89B.6070308@meltel.net> My immediate reaction to this issue lies with Freedom of Expression! For crying out loud. Someone needs to remind the FCC that they are mere managers of the airwaves that WE own. I can't believe the FCC can make a coherent argument that that responsibility requires the FCC to eliminate our right to bear free and open software. :) Tom On 10/31/2015 11:53 PM, gregrwm wrote: > we already know BIOS/EFI infections on most existing PC&Mac hardware > can propagate and remain undetectable&unremovable via software alone. > some say the PC is therefore dead. but of course new hardware always > comes along. but wait, what will you be able to run on tomorrow's > hardware? only what the manufacturer approves? > > Yes, the FCC might ban free operating systems > . > Support software freedom, submit a comment to the FCC > . > here's mine: > Dear FCC, > Please maintain our freedom to share and use free software on our > computing devices. Wireless networking research depends on the > freedom of researchers to investigate and modify their devices. > Citizens and businesses need the freedom to fix security holes in the > devices they own. The manufacturer isn't always motivated to do so. > User submitted fixes, which have fixed serious bugs in wifi drivers, > would become banned under the NPRM. Banning user fixing of security > holes increases both cyberthreats and electronic waste. Billions of > dollars of commerce, such as secure wifi vendors and retail hotspot > vendors, depends on the freedom of citizens and businesses to install > the software of their choosing. Please refrain from implementing > rules which remove our freedom to install free software on our > computing devices. Please understand, respect, and protect our > freedom to read, write, and share the software and firmware that > controls our computing and communication devices. > Thank you, > Gregory Mott > ECFS Filing Receipt - Confirmation number: 20151030035598 > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Criminalization of homelessness costs more than communities providing housing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o1bigtenor at gmail.com Tue Nov 3 15:00:16 2015 From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 15:00:16 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Backups Message-ID: Greetings Looking at backing up a little less than 300 GB of files. Want to do one copy to 25 GB Bluray discs. Looking for suggestions for programs, methods, and/or techniques. TIA Dee From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Tue Nov 3 16:51:24 2015 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:51:24 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i've been using BackupPC for years professionally, big or small jobs, and for my personal stuff too, the modest configuration time is entirely worth the flexibility, efficiency, and reliability. if you want multiple copies, the simplest and very reliable approach is just set up multiple BackupPC servers. if you want better efficiency than that, one approach is just make copies of the BackupPC server's data, which i mention also only for the simplicity of it, but copying can be problematic with large data quantity, usually due to a very high volume of hardlinks. for multiple copies i have had very good luck selecting and copying only the most recent full backups, and subsequent nonredundant incrementals, via rsync. a bit more thought was required, but it's been highly efficient. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o1bigtenor at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 12:53:07 2015 From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 12:53:07 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions Message-ID: Greetings Have an old HP rack (tall think its a 42U or so). Finding the cage nuts - - - where at a reasonable price? What else to I need to install 2 old servers and 2 rack UPSs? I have been looking but am finding that different companies call things by different names. Also looking where I might be able to get these things reasonably (have access to a US delivery address if that helps the costs). TIA Dee From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Fri Nov 6 14:29:26 2015 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:29:26 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> What kind of nuts do you need? Backs and screws? Clip nuts or slips? I bought my last set on Amazon. It wasn?t exceptionally cheap but not terribly expensive. ? Ryan > On Nov 6, 2015, at 12:53 PM, o1bigtenor wrote: > > Greetings > > Have an old HP rack (tall think its a 42U or so). > > Finding the cage nuts - - - where at a reasonable price? > > What else to I need to install 2 old servers and 2 rack UPSs? > > I have been looking but am finding that different companies call > things by different names. > > Also looking where I might be able to get these things reasonably > (have access to a US delivery address if that helps the costs). > > TIA > > Dee > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From o1bigtenor at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 14:56:03 2015 From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:56:03 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions In-Reply-To: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> References: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > What kind of nuts do you need? Backs and screws? Clip nuts or slips? > > I bought my last set on Amazon. It wasn?t exceptionally cheap but not terribly expensive. > > ? I'm told they are called cage nuts and the hardware supplier (one of Canada's premier hardware suppliers) tells me that their supplier doesn't handle it any more and so they don't carry it either. They also said they didn't sell very many M6 x 1 cage nuts (which I find flabbergasting!) but oh well! Dee From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Fri Nov 6 18:25:15 2015 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:25:15 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions In-Reply-To: References: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> Message-ID: There are many different types of cage nuts? What?s the model of the HP Rack? > On Nov 6, 2015, at 2:56 PM, o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> What kind of nuts do you need? Backs and screws? Clip nuts or slips? >> >> I bought my last set on Amazon. It wasn?t exceptionally cheap but not terribly expensive. >> >> ? > I'm told they are called cage nuts and the hardware supplier (one of > Canada's premier > hardware suppliers) tells me that their supplier doesn't handle it any > more and so they > don't carry it either. They also said they didn't sell very many M6 x > 1 cage nuts (which > I find flabbergasting!) but oh well! > > Dee > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From sfertch at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 19:53:57 2015 From: sfertch at gmail.com (Shawn Fertch) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 19:53:57 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions In-Reply-To: References: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> Message-ID: If you need nuts and screws/bolts, you can probably buy 1/4-20 or #12 screws from a hardware store. I had an old HP rack, with the round holes in it and they worked fine. -Shawn On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > There are many different types of cage nuts? > > What?s the model of the HP Rack? > > > > On Nov 6, 2015, at 2:56 PM, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Ryan Coleman > wrote: > >> What kind of nuts do you need? Backs and screws? Clip nuts or slips? > >> > >> I bought my last set on Amazon. It wasn?t exceptionally cheap but not > terribly expensive. > >> > >> ? > > I'm told they are called cage nuts and the hardware supplier (one of > > Canada's premier > > hardware suppliers) tells me that their supplier doesn't handle it any > > more and so they > > don't carry it either. 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URL: From o1bigtenor at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 20:54:42 2015 From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:54:42 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions In-Reply-To: References: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > There are many different types of cage nuts? > > What?s the model of the HP Rack? The only model # I can find on the unit is HP C2786-60005 which when searching the web tells me that that's for a fan. Not sure what to call the pieces that both to a UPS or the server and attach to the frame rails. AIUI they are called rails or shelves - - - I'm not sure though! Dee From nealzimm at cpinternet.com Sat Nov 7 08:56:55 2015 From: nealzimm at cpinternet.com (Neal Zimmermann) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 08:56:55 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions In-Reply-To: References: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> Message-ID: <1446908215.3131.1.camel@cpinternet.com> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 20:54 -0600, o1bigtenor wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > There are many different types of cage nuts? > > > > What?s the model of the HP Rack? > > The only model # I can find on the unit is HP C2786-60005 which when > searching the > web tells me that that's for a fan. > > Not sure what to call the pieces that both to a UPS or the server and > attach to the > frame rails. AIUI they are called rails or shelves - - - I'm not sure though! > > Dee > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list Not sure if it helps, but you did say you didn't care if they came from the US. Try these: http://www.grainger.com/search?nls=3&ssf=3&searchQuery=cage+nuts http://www.mcmaster.com/#cage-nuts/=zpgkeq Neal From o1bigtenor at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 21:21:02 2015 From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 21:21:02 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server Rack hardware questions In-Reply-To: <1446908215.3131.1.camel@cpinternet.com> References: <4FB742D6-149B-4FCF-9DB4-53F55A031EDD@cwis.biz> <1446908215.3131.1.camel@cpinternet.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Neal Zimmermann wrote: > On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 20:54 -0600, o1bigtenor wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> > There are many different types of cage nuts? >> > >> > What?s the model of the HP Rack? >> >> The only model # I can find on the unit is HP C2786-60005 which when >> searching the >> web tells me that that's for a fan. >> >> Not sure what to call the pieces that both to a UPS or the server and >> attach to the >> frame rails. AIUI they are called rails or shelves - - - I'm not sure though! >> >> Dee >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > Not sure if it helps, but you did say you didn't care if they came from the US. > > Try these: > > http://www.grainger.com/search?nls=3&ssf=3&searchQuery=cage+nuts > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#cage-nuts/=zpgkeq > Thanks - - - hadn't thought of looking with these!! Dee From o1bigtenor at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 15:48:23 2015 From: o1bigtenor at gmail.com (o1bigtenor) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:48:23 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Server questions Message-ID: Greetings I have been trying to set up an older Dell poweredge 2950II for use as a NAS box (and possibly some other things). Running into a problem. I used one hard drive from the array for some much needed other purpose for a few weeks and now when I wanted to put it back into the server well there are problems. I can't get the bios to accept the ' R' input. When in the PD Mgmt area when I use F2 to get into the hard disk area I can make the front panel light blink (or not) but I cannot get any other of the functions to highlight. The cursor just doesn't want to move! So - - - Does anyone know how to kick the bios in the seat of the pants to get the hardware raid to work? Other option - - - drastic and expensive is to remove the 32GB of ECC ram in the box and setup a new server box. (I don't want to do this but if the other one won't work - - - well I need something that will!) Ideas - - - suggestions - - - - please? TIA Dee From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 13:49:12 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:49:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] Escaped unicode conversion In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Wakefield, Thad M. wrote: > ____________________________________ > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] on behalf of Mike Miller [mbmiller+l at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:07 AM > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Escaped unicode conversion > > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015, Wakefield, Thad M. wrote: > >>> This seems like it should be easy. So I'm suspecting my internet search skills are deficient. >>> >>> I have a text file with escaped Unicode that I want to convert to plain text. >>> >>> From: Why We\u2019re in a New Gilded Age >>> To: Why We're in a New Gilded Age >> >> Tell us if this works for you: >> >> perl -pe 's/\\u([0-9A-Fa-f]{4})/chr(hex $1)/ge' >> >> It assumes there are always four hexadecimal digits following the "\u". >> It will give warnings to stderr about "Wide character in print". >> >> Your example shows conversion to an ordinary apostrophe, like this:> >> >> We're >> >> But my code will give you the UTF-8 character U+2019, like this: >> >> We?re >> >> And that is probably what you want. >> >> Mike > > This converted the text file with escaped Unicode to an UTF8 file which > I was able to convert to an ASCII text file with Notepad++. I was unable > to get iconv to do the conversion. Cool. But how did iconv deal with characters like U+2019? When I try it, it fails on that character: $ echo "Why We\u2019re in a New Gilded Age" | perl -pe 's/\\u([0-9A-Fa-f]{4})/chr(hex $1)/ge' | iconv --from-code=UTF-8 --to-code=ISO-8859-1 Wide character in print, <> line 1. Why Weiconv: illegal input sequence at position 6 Maybe you used a different output encoding. If you use the -c option, it deletes the U+2019 character. Thanks. Mike From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 14:35:25 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:35:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] awk - one liner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I liked this one because I've always wanted "max" and "min" programs. What I usually do is sort and use head or tail. That is very inefficient. So based on your work I made this: awk 'BEGIN {max=$1} {if ($1>max) max=$1} END {print max}' It seems to do what I want for whole lines if I do this: awk 'BEGIN {max=$0} {if ($0>max) max=$0} END {print max}' It looks like these two lines give the same output for most files: awk 'BEGIN {max=$0} {if ($0>max) max=$0} END {print max}' filename sort filename | tail -n1 Of course the awk code is much faster and I assume it uses much less memory, especially for larger input files. If input is a single column of numbers, awk will provide the numerical maximum number, but sort will not do that unless the -g option is used (sometimes -n would be enough, but not always). Any ideas about this? I'm having a problem getting min to work. This gives me a blank line as output: echo -e "1\n2" | awk 'BEGIN {min=$1} {if ($1 Thanks Gerry. > > With your suggestion a solution was found: > > awk -F"|" 'BEGIN {max = 0} $2 ~ /foo/ {if ($1>max) max=$1} END{print max}' > > Sincerely, > SDA > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:52 PM, gerry wrote: > >> Saul, >> It sounds like you just want the max for the first field? >> gawk '/foo/{if (max < $1) max=$1} END {print $1}' file >> >> But that doesn't seem likely since it's too simple - no offence intended. >> >> Did you want the 2nd field of the row with the max of the first field? >> gawk '/foo/{if (max < $1) {max=$1;save3=$3} } END {print save3;}' >> >> I'm ignoring the vertical bars because your example had spaces which awk >> recognizes by default. >> If the spaces are not consistent then you might want to use -F. >> >> You can probably find a good example of what you want >> on http://commandlinefu.com >> >> -- >> gsker at skerbitz.org >> >> >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Saul Alanis wrote: >> >> >>> I have a file with multiple fields; >>> >>> 2 | foo | bar >>> 4 | bar | foo >>> 1 | bar | foo >>> 3 | foo | bar >>> >>> My goal is to sort the first field numerically and print the first field >>> of the last result. >>> >>> awk -F"|" '/foo/ {print $1 | "sort"}' >>> >>> awk -F"|" '/foo/ {number=$1} END {print version}' >>> >>> Help is greatly appreciated :) >>> >>> SDA >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > From sdalano at gmail.com Sat Nov 14 11:37:51 2015 From: sdalano at gmail.com (Saul Alanis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:37:51 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] awk - one liner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good Morning Mike- I believe this will do it with just awk: awk 'NR == 1 || $1 < min {min = $0} END{print min}' SDA On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > I liked this one because I've always wanted "max" and "min" programs. What > I usually do is sort and use head or tail. That is very inefficient. So > based on your work I made this: > > awk 'BEGIN {max=$1} {if ($1>max) max=$1} END {print max}' > > It seems to do what I want for whole lines if I do this: > > awk 'BEGIN {max=$0} {if ($0>max) max=$0} END {print max}' > > It looks like these two lines give the same output for most files: > > awk 'BEGIN {max=$0} {if ($0>max) max=$0} END {print max}' filename > sort filename | tail -n1 > > Of course the awk code is much faster and I assume it uses much less > memory, especially for larger input files. > > If input is a single column of numbers, awk will provide the numerical > maximum number, but sort will not do that unless the -g option is used > (sometimes -n would be enough, but not always). > > Any ideas about this? > > I'm having a problem getting min to work. This gives me a blank line as > output: > > echo -e "1\n2" | awk 'BEGIN {min=$1} {if ($1 > I'm obviously missing something! > > Mike > > > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Saul Alanis wrote: > > Thanks Gerry. >> >> With your suggestion a solution was found: >> >> awk -F"|" 'BEGIN {max = 0} $2 ~ /foo/ {if ($1>max) max=$1} END{print max}' >> >> Sincerely, >> SDA >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:52 PM, gerry wrote: >> >> Saul, >>> It sounds like you just want the max for the first field? >>> gawk '/foo/{if (max < $1) max=$1} END {print $1}' file >>> >>> But that doesn't seem likely since it's too simple - no offence intended. >>> >>> Did you want the 2nd field of the row with the max of the first field? >>> gawk '/foo/{if (max < $1) {max=$1;save3=$3} } END {print save3;}' >>> >>> I'm ignoring the vertical bars because your example had spaces which awk >>> recognizes by default. >>> If the spaces are not consistent then you might want to use -F. >>> >>> You can probably find a good example of what you want >>> on http://commandlinefu.com >>> >>> -- >>> gsker at skerbitz.org >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Saul Alanis wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have a file with multiple fields; >>>> >>>> 2 | foo | bar >>>> 4 | bar | foo >>>> 1 | bar | foo >>>> 3 | foo | bar >>>> >>>> My goal is to sort the first field numerically and print the first field >>>> of the last result. >>>> >>>> awk -F"|" '/foo/ {print $1 | "sort"}' >>>> >>>> awk -F"|" '/foo/ {number=$1} END {print version}' >>>> >>>> Help is greatly appreciated :) >>>> >>>> SDA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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By the grace of G-d, > I'm able to provide a meeting area in a conference room in an > office building. > > > -- > Brian > Ebenezer Enterprises - How to tell the 20-trillion-dollar-man > that he wouldn't be missed if he resigned? > > http://webEbenezer.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From allanf at linuxquestions.net Mon Nov 16 22:26:17 2015 From: allanf at linuxquestions.net (AL F) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 22:26:17 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Free stuff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm interested in both C++ and FreeBSD. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Brian Wood wrote: > I have two Clear wireless modems to give away > > > http://www.clearwire.com/downloads/CLEAR%20Modem%20with%20Wi-Fi%20Online%20User%20Guide%204-14-2011.pdf > > One of them hasn't been used. > > And if others are interested in a C++ or FreeBSD meeting > in the St. Paul, area, please let me know. By the grace of G-d, > I'm able to provide a meeting area in a conference room in an > office building. > > > -- > Brian > Ebenezer Enterprises - How to tell the 20-trillion-dollar-man > that he wouldn't be missed if he resigned? > > http://webEbenezer.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Why don't you send me email off line telling me what days of the week would be good for you as far as meeting. I'm thinking about meeting on a quarterly basis to start with. I've thought that the monthly C++ meetings in some other cities have had a hard time coming up with interesting topics when they meet that often. I will try to have a few things about C++ to talk about for the first meeting, but beyond that am not really sure. Feel free to prepare some C++ or FreeBSD items to talk about. -- Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust. http://webEbenezer.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Simply use the comand: > ?sort -n YOURDATAFILEGOESHERE | tail -n 1 | cut -d\| -f1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tclug at jfoo.org Sat Nov 21 10:59:25 2015 From: tclug at jfoo.org (John Gateley) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:59:25 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] awk - one liner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5650A2ED.9050700@jfoo.org> Efficiency. sort is O(n lg n), an awk solution should be O(n) John On 11/21/15 10:56 AM, AL F wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Saul Alanis > wrote: > > 2 | foo | bar > 4 | bar | foo > 1 | bar | foo > 3 | foo | bar > > > > ?Why is awk a reqirement? 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URL: From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 12:13:16 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 12:13:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] free laptop batteries - GW240, 7800mAh Message-ID: We ordered two replacement batteries but the wrong ones were sent to us. Someone else paid for it, so we'll just give these away. These batteries say on them "Replace GW240" and I guess they are for Dell Inspiron computers: https://www.google.com/search?q=gw240+battery I think this what they are: http://www.amazon.com/7800mAh-cells-Battery-Inspiron-replace/dp/B00CRYPHBE They are unused in their boxes. They didn't fit our computers (Asus, I think). If you want them, reply to the list so people know you took them. Whoever replies first can have them, if they'll pick them up. This is where I live: http://tinyurl.com/41stAve 2940 41st Ave S (at E. Lake St) Minneapolis, MN Mike From eminmn at sysmatrix.net Sun Nov 22 13:35:16 2015 From: eminmn at sysmatrix.net (eminmn) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:35:16 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] free laptop batteries - GW240, 7800mAh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <565218F4.7050404@sysmatrix.net> I'll take them if no one else wants them. I live only a few blocks away from you. Ed On 11/22/2015 12:13 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > We ordered two replacement batteries but the wrong ones were sent to > us. Someone else paid for it, so we'll just give these away. > > These batteries say on them "Replace GW240" and I guess they are for > Dell Inspiron computers: > > https://www.google.com/search?q=gw240+battery > > I think this what they are: > > http://www.amazon.com/7800mAh-cells-Battery-Inspiron-replace/dp/B00CRYPHBE > > > They are unused in their boxes. They didn't fit our computers (Asus, > I think). > > If you want them, reply to the list so people know you took them. > Whoever replies first can have them, if they'll pick them up. > > This is where I live: > > http://tinyurl.com/41stAve > > 2940 41st Ave S (at E. Lake St) > Minneapolis, MN > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Sun Nov 22 13:58:19 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:58:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] free laptop batteries - GW240, 7800mAh In-Reply-To: <565218F4.7050404@sysmatrix.net> References: <565218F4.7050404@sysmatrix.net> Message-ID: OK. I'll reply off list. On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, eminmn wrote: > I'll take them if no one else wants them. I live only a few blocks away from > you. > > Ed > > On 11/22/2015 12:13 PM, Mike Miller wrote: >> We ordered two replacement batteries but the wrong ones were sent to us. >> Someone else paid for it, so we'll just give these away. >> >> These batteries say on them "Replace GW240" and I guess they are for Dell >> Inspiron computers: >> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=gw240+battery >> >> I think this what they are: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/7800mAh-cells-Battery-Inspiron-replace/dp/B00CRYPHBE >> >> They are unused in their boxes. They didn't fit our computers (Asus, I >> think). >> >> If you want them, reply to the list so people know you took them. Whoever >> replies first can have them, if they'll pick them up. >> >> This is where I live: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/41stAve >> >> 2940 41st Ave S (at E. Lake St) >> Minneapolis, MN >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 01:57:02 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 01:57:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server Message-ID: I have some DVD ISOs on a Linux server. To watch them on a PC, I'll just use Samba to serve a file share. That works great. My kids have iPads, but it looks like the iPads don't natively work with Samba. So I'm looking for another way to do it. I have VLC installed on the iPads. Is there another protocol that can do this? Using Apache on the Linux server, I could connect by http to an ISO, but that didn't really work -- no sound, no controls and very jittery. Any ideas? Mike From jus at krytosvirus.com Tue Nov 24 02:14:47 2015 From: jus at krytosvirus.com (Justin Krejci) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 02:14:47 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server Message-ID: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> Plex media server. Not sure about ISO support for that though. I backed up 100+ DVDs (thanks handbrake). It works well for when Netflix/ISP is down or for personal video playback. I've downloaded the occasional youtube video and stored that too.? I also got a plex pass subscription to have multi user support so I have a guest account that only has access to kid friendly DVDs and personal media recordings. It works with Web browsers, mobile device apps (android and apple), my roku, and probably other devices too. -------- Original message -------- From: Mike Miller Date: 11/24/2015 1:57 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TCLUG List Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server I have some DVD ISOs on a Linux server.? To watch them on a PC, I'll just use Samba to serve a file share.? That works great. My kids have iPads, but it looks like the iPads don't natively work with Samba.? So I'm looking for another way to do it. I have VLC installed on the iPads.? Is there another protocol that can do this?? Using Apache on the Linux server, I could connect by http to an ISO, but that didn't really work -- no sound, no controls and very jittery. Any ideas? Mike _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mr.chew.baka at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 08:00:11 2015 From: mr.chew.baka at gmail.com (B-o-B De Mars) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 08:00:11 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> References: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> Message-ID: <56546D6B.9040505@gmail.com> On 11/24/2015 2:14 AM, Justin Krejci wrote: > Plex media server. Not sure about ISO support for that though. I backed > up 100+ DVDs (thanks handbrake). It works well for when Netflix/ISP is > down or for personal video playback. I've downloaded the occasional > youtube video and stored that too. > > I also got a plex pass subscription to have multi user support so I have > a guest account that only has access to kid friendly DVDs and personal > media recordings. I also recently setup Plex (with a Plex pass account). It's a great solution, and I highly recommend it. Although I have never tried serving up an ISO, I see that Plex mention they can stream .iso files. From chapinjeff at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 08:42:34 2015 From: chapinjeff at gmail.com (Jeff Chapin) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 08:42:34 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: <56546D6B.9040505@gmail.com> References: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> <56546D6B.9040505@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd even recommend using Plex when playing it locally on a PC -- plex has some really nice features for tracking what you watch, how much you watched, etc, as well as the ability to restrict content for different users based on content ratings. It's a really nice product at this point. Jeff On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:00 AM, B-o-B De Mars wrote: > On 11/24/2015 2:14 AM, Justin Krejci wrote: > >> Plex media server. Not sure about ISO support for that though. I backed >> up 100+ DVDs (thanks handbrake). It works well for when Netflix/ISP is >> down or for personal video playback. I've downloaded the occasional >> youtube video and stored that too. >> >> I also got a plex pass subscription to have multi user support so I have >> a guest account that only has access to kid friendly DVDs and personal >> media recordings. >> > > I also recently setup Plex (with a Plex pass account). It's a great > solution, and I highly recommend it. Although I have never tried serving > up an ISO, I see that Plex mention they can stream .iso files. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -- Jeff Chapin President, CedarLug, retired President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" President, UNI Scuba Club Senator, NISG, retired -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mat at mthx.org Tue Nov 24 09:36:28 2015 From: mat at mthx.org (Marc Thomas) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:36:28 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> References: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> Message-ID: <1448379388.3429.0@smtp.gmail.com> -- Marc Thomas mthx.org | Github: mthxx | @mthx_ On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Justin Krejci wrote: > Plex media server. Not sure about ISO support for that though. I > backed up 100+ DVDs (thanks handbrake). It works well for when > Netflix/ISP is down or for personal video playback. I've downloaded > the occasional youtube video and stored that too. I've recently been setting up my media center and server. When I tried out Plex as an option back in April/May, it did not support ISO's. At one point, they did support ISO's, but they have since removed that feature. I went with Kodi for a variety of reasons. And Kodi is available on Android devices. Not sure about iOS devices though. If you are streaming over slower connections from your server than Plex is a decent option. It's transcoding is really good. > I also got a plex pass subscription to have multi user support so I > have a guest account that only has access to kid friendly DVDs and > personal media recordings. > > It works with Web browsers, mobile device apps (android and apple), > my roku, and probably other devices too. > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Mike Miller > Date: 11/24/2015 1:57 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: TCLUG List > Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server > > I have some DVD ISOs on a Linux server. To watch them on a PC, I'll > just > use Samba to serve a file share. That works great. > > My kids have iPads, but it looks like the iPads don't natively work > with > Samba. So I'm looking for another way to do it. > > I have VLC installed on the iPads. Is there another protocol that > can do > this? Using Apache on the Linux server, I could connect by http to an > ISO, but that didn't really work -- no sound, no controls and very > jittery. > > Any ideas? > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 21:01:37 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 21:01:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> References: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Justin Krejci wrote: > Plex media server. I need to be able to work with DVD ISOs, but Plex doesn't do it: Why are ISO, VIDEO_TS, and other Disk Image Formats Not Supported? https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201426506-Why-are-ISO-VIDEO-TS-and-other-Disk-Image-Formats-Not-Supported- I usually use sshfs or samba to share files with other devices. I was hoping there was some third way that would allow VLC to access the DVD ISOs without having more software installed, but I'm starting to think that won't work. The easiest thing would be to have a program on the iPad that allows me to mount samba drive shares. I'm not sure there are any free ones, though. Mike From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Wed Nov 25 10:20:36 2015 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:20:36 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Google?d ?streaming video to iPad from computer? and found this right away: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/how-to-stream-videos-from-computer-to.html > On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Mike Miller wrote: > > I have some DVD ISOs on a Linux server. To watch them on a PC, I'll just use Samba to serve a file share. That works great. > > My kids have iPads, but it looks like the iPads don't natively work with Samba. So I'm looking for another way to do it. > > I have VLC installed on the iPads. Is there another protocol that can do this? Using Apache on the Linux server, I could connect by http to an ISO, but that didn't really work -- no sound, no controls and very jittery. > > Any ideas? > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 10:40:06 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:40:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The thing that concerns me is that I might go through all of those steps and find that it doesn't support ISO files. I suspect that the system you found there only supports video files. Here's a list of file extensions that the iOS version of VLC supports: http://www.file-extensions.org/vlc-for-ios-file-extensions If that's right, ISO isn't on the list. I suspect that I'd get to the part of the installation that says "Locate the video file you want to play and tap 'Watch' to start it" and my ISO files wouldn't be there. Or, if they were there, I'd have the same problem I had with http. Mike On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Google?d ?streaming video to iPad from computer? and found this right away: > http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/how-to-stream-videos-from-computer-to.html > > > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Mike Miller wrote: >> >> I have some DVD ISOs on a Linux server. To watch them on a PC, I'll just use Samba to serve a file share. That works great. >> >> My kids have iPads, but it looks like the iPads don't natively work with Samba. So I'm looking for another way to do it. >> >> I have VLC installed on the iPads. Is there another protocol that can do this? Using Apache on the Linux server, I could connect by http to an ISO, but that didn't really work -- no sound, no controls and very jittery. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Mike From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Wed Nov 25 11:11:21 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:11:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <0ft1dfymu8nth2nkk7ng9c9h.1448352887729@email.android.com> Message-ID: Thanks to all for the help. I think all of the ideas were good except that they don't happen to work with ISO files and almost everything I have is in ISO files! Here's some more info on what I've tried: It looks like VLC for iOS will be supporting smb protocol soon: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128455&p=431357&hilit=ios+smb#p431357 Meanwhile, I thought I might be able to buy an app that would make this work. So far, it hasn't worked. I installed this on the iPad: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Now I can see the ISO files on the Linux servers SAMBA share, but the next problem is that the .iso file type isn't associated with VLC, so I can't click on it to load it into VLC as if it were a local file. The FileBrowser does offer the option to stream the file to a program. If I do that, and stream to VLC, it will open an http connection -- I guess the FileBrowswer becomes a web server -- but that doesn't work. VLC can't do streaming of ISO files by http, apparently -- I tried that already using Apache on the server. So nothing is working and maybe nothing can work until VLC supports smb, which is supposed to happen within a month from now. We'll see about that! Mike From jus at krytosvirus.com Wed Nov 25 20:06:35 2015 From: jus at krytosvirus.com (Justin Krejci) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:06:35 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server Message-ID: How did you come to have a collection of video files in .iso format? Seems like an old choice to make intentionally.? -------- Original message --------From: Mike Miller Date: 11/25/2015 11:11 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server Thanks to all for the help.? I think all of the ideas were good except that they don't happen to work with ISO files and almost everything I have is in ISO files! Here's some more info on what I've tried: It looks like VLC for iOS will be supporting smb protocol soon: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128455&p=431357&hilit=ios+smb#p431357 Meanwhile, I thought I might be able to buy an app that would make this work.? So far, it hasn't worked.? I installed this on the iPad: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Now I can see the ISO files on the Linux servers SAMBA share, but the next problem is that the .iso file type isn't associated with VLC, so I can't click on it to load it into VLC as if it were a local file.? The FileBrowser does offer the option to stream the file to a program.? If I do that, and stream to VLC, it will open an http connection -- I guess the FileBrowswer becomes a web server -- but that doesn't work.? VLC can't do streaming of ISO files by http, apparently -- I tried that already using Apache on the server. So nothing is working and maybe nothing can work until VLC supports smb, which is supposed to happen within a month from now.? We'll see about that! 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Seems like an old choice to make intentionally.? -------- Original message --------From: Mike Miller Date: 11/25/2015 11:11 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server Thanks to all for the help.? I think all of the ideas were good except that they don't happen to work with ISO files and almost everything I have is in ISO files! Here's some more info on what I've tried: It looks like VLC for iOS will be supporting smb protocol soon: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128455&p=431357&hilit=ios+smb#p431357 Meanwhile, I thought I might be able to buy an app that would make this work.? So far, it hasn't worked.? I installed this on the iPad: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 Now I can see the ISO files on the Linux servers SAMBA share, but the next problem is that the .iso file type isn't associated with VLC, so I can't click on it to load it into VLC as if it were a local file.? The FileBrowser does offer the option to stream the file to a program.? If I do that, and stream to VLC, it will open an http connection -- I guess the FileBrowswer becomes a web server -- but that doesn't work.? VLC can't do streaming of ISO files by http, apparently -- I tried that already using Apache on the server. So nothing is working and maybe nothing can work until VLC supports smb, which is supposed to happen within a month from now.? We'll see about that! Mike _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Thu Nov 26 21:54:33 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:54:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have video DVDs, I convert them to ISOs, then I watch them using VLC. If I convert the DVD movies to MPEG, or some such video format, I don't know if I can retain all the features like subtitles and various language audio tracks. At this point, I'd rather not do them all over again, so I'd like to use them as they are. I can watch them from PCs using Samba and I can also watch them from Linux boxes using sshfs. My only problem is with iOS, right now, but it looks like the VLC folks might fix that. Mike On Thu, 26 Nov 2015, Justin Krejci wrote: > Odd not old > > -------- Original message --------From: Justin Krejci Date: 11/25/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server > How did you come to have a collection of video files in .iso format? Seems like an old choice to make intentionally.? > > -------- Original message --------From: Mike Miller Date: 11/25/2015 11:11 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server > Thanks to all for the help.? I think all of the ideas were good except > that they don't happen to work with ISO files and almost everything I have > is in ISO files! > > Here's some more info on what I've tried: > > It looks like VLC for iOS will be supporting smb protocol soon: > > https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128455&p=431357&hilit=ios+smb#p431357 > > Meanwhile, I thought I might be able to buy an app that would make this > work.? So far, it hasn't worked.? I installed this on the iPad: > > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 > > Now I can see the ISO files on the Linux servers SAMBA share, but the next > problem is that the .iso file type isn't associated with VLC, so I can't > click on it to load it into VLC as if it were a local file.? The > FileBrowser does offer the option to stream the file to a program.? If I > do that, and stream to VLC, it will open an http connection -- I guess the > FileBrowswer becomes a web server -- but that doesn't work.? VLC can't do > streaming of ISO files by http, apparently -- I tried that already using > Apache on the server. > > So nothing is working and maybe nothing can work until VLC supports smb, > which is supposed to happen within a month from now.? We'll see about > that! > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Thu Nov 26 23:16:03 2015 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 23:16:03 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> DVD to ISO and DVDshrink was a popular application 10 years ago? > On Nov 26, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Justin Krejci wrote: > > Odd not old > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Justin Krejci > Date: 11/25/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server > > How did you come to have a collection of video files in .iso format? Seems like an old choice to make intentionally. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Mike Miller > Date: 11/25/2015 11:11 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server > > Thanks to all for the help. I think all of the ideas were good except > that they don't happen to work with ISO files and almost everything I have > is in ISO files! > > Here's some more info on what I've tried: > > It looks like VLC for iOS will be supporting smb protocol soon: > > https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128455&p=431357&hilit=ios+smb#p431357 > > Meanwhile, I thought I might be able to buy an app that would make this > work. So far, it hasn't worked. I installed this on the iPad: > > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 > > Now I can see the ISO files on the Linux servers SAMBA share, but the next > problem is that the .iso file type isn't associated with VLC, so I can't > click on it to load it into VLC as if it were a local file. The > FileBrowser does offer the option to stream the file to a program. If I > do that, and stream to VLC, it will open an http connection -- I guess the > FileBrowswer becomes a web server -- but that doesn't work. VLC can't do > streaming of ISO files by http, apparently -- I tried that already using > Apache on the server. > > So nothing is working and maybe nothing can work until VLC supports smb, > which is supposed to happen within a month from now. We'll see about > that! > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From tlunde at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 11:58:00 2015 From: tlunde at gmail.com (T L) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:58:00 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: If there are small children in the house, physical media is endangered. ( I'm just happy that there aren't VCRs to hold peanut butter & jelly sandwiches anymore. ) Needless to say, I can see why Mike has made ISOs from his DVDs. Let me second the suggestion of Handbrake. Leave the ISOs where they are & set up a HandBrakeCLI process with the iPad or iPhone preset to batch convert the collection. The resulting MP4 or m4v files can be natively consumed by all modern devices. Plus, as a nice side effect, this will strip out all of the enforced previews /advertisements that so many DVDs have these days. It's a better watching experience, especially with kids who are eager to get to the desired content. Thomas On Thursday, November 26, 2015, Ryan Coleman wrote: > DVD to ISO and DVDshrink was a popular application 10 years ago? > > > > > On Nov 26, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Justin Krejci > wrote: > > > > Odd not old > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Justin Krejci > > > Date: 11/25/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) > > To: TCLUG Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server > > > > How did you come to have a collection of video files in .iso format? > Seems like an old choice to make intentionally. > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Mike Miller > > > Date: 11/25/2015 11:11 AM (GMT-06:00) > > To: TCLUG Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server > > > > Thanks to all for the help. I think all of the ideas were good except > > that they don't happen to work with ISO files and almost everything I > have > > is in ISO files! > > > > Here's some more info on what I've tried: > > > > It looks like VLC for iOS will be supporting smb protocol soon: > > > > > https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128455&p=431357&hilit=ios+smb#p431357 > > > > Meanwhile, I thought I might be able to buy an app that would make this > > work. So far, it hasn't worked. I installed this on the iPad: > > > > > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 > > > > Now I can see the ISO files on the Linux servers SAMBA share, but the > next > > problem is that the .iso file type isn't associated with VLC, so I can't > > click on it to load it into VLC as if it were a local file. The > > FileBrowser does offer the option to stream the file to a program. If I > > do that, and stream to VLC, it will open an http connection -- I guess > the > > FileBrowswer becomes a web server -- but that doesn't work. VLC can't do > > streaming of ISO files by http, apparently -- I tried that already using > > Apache on the server. > > > > So nothing is working and maybe nothing can work until VLC supports smb, > > which is supposed to happen within a month from now. 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URL: From kris.browne at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 12:54:25 2015 From: kris.browne at gmail.com (Kristopher Browne) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:54:25 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: Even more useful, the chips in any modern devices have dedicated MP4 decoders and will perform better with that on playback and battery. (\(\ ( -.-) Kris Browne o_(")(") kris.browne at gmail.com > On Nov 27, 2015, at 11:58, T L wrote: > > If there are small children in the house, physical media is endangered. ( I'm just happy that there aren't VCRs to hold peanut butter & jelly sandwiches anymore. ) > > Needless to say, I can see why Mike has made ISOs from his DVDs. > > Let me second the suggestion of Handbrake. Leave the ISOs where they are & set up a HandBrakeCLI process with the iPad or iPhone preset to batch convert the collection. The resulting MP4 or m4v files can be natively consumed by all modern devices. Plus, as a nice side effect, this will strip out all of the enforced previews /advertisements that so many DVDs have these days. It's a better watching experience, especially with kids who are eager to get to the desired content. > > Thomas > > >> On Thursday, November 26, 2015, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> DVD to ISO and DVDshrink was a popular application 10 years ago? >> >> >> >> > On Nov 26, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Justin Krejci wrote: >> > >> > Odd not old >> > >> > >> > -------- Original message -------- >> > From: Justin Krejci >> > Date: 11/25/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) >> > To: TCLUG Mailing List >> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server >> > >> > How did you come to have a collection of video files in .iso format? Seems like an old choice to make intentionally. >> > >> > >> > -------- Original message -------- >> > From: Mike Miller >> > Date: 11/25/2015 11:11 AM (GMT-06:00) >> > To: TCLUG Mailing List >> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server >> > >> > Thanks to all for the help. I think all of the ideas were good except >> > that they don't happen to work with ISO files and almost everything I have >> > is in ISO files! >> > >> > Here's some more info on what I've tried: >> > >> > It looks like VLC for iOS will be supporting smb protocol soon: >> > >> > https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128455&p=431357&hilit=ios+smb#p431357 >> > >> > Meanwhile, I thought I might be able to buy an app that would make this >> > work. So far, it hasn't worked. I installed this on the iPad: >> > >> > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowser-access-files-on/id364738545?mt=8 >> > >> > Now I can see the ISO files on the Linux servers SAMBA share, but the next >> > problem is that the .iso file type isn't associated with VLC, so I can't >> > click on it to load it into VLC as if it were a local file. The >> > FileBrowser does offer the option to stream the file to a program. If I >> > do that, and stream to VLC, it will open an http connection -- I guess the >> > FileBrowswer becomes a web server -- but that doesn't work. VLC can't do >> > streaming of ISO files by http, apparently -- I tried that already using >> > Apache on the server. >> > >> > So nothing is working and maybe nothing can work until VLC supports smb, >> > which is supposed to happen within a month from now. 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URL: From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 13:01:26 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:01:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Nov 2015, Ryan Coleman wrote: > DVD to ISO and DVDshrink was a popular application 10 years ago? Is there some fancy new thing I don't know about? I don't think I could afford the disk space 10 years ago to store a lot of DVD ISOs on my hard drives, so I think it must have been "popular" for rich people. Let me know the better way to serve DVDs from a Linux box. I don't understand how it would be possible to do better than the ISO unless I want to delete the menus. Without menus it might be possible, but what is the format that preserves all of the features like audio tracks and angles? Mike From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 13:13:58 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:13:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015, Kristopher Browne wrote: > Even more useful, the chips in any modern devices have dedicated MP4 > decoders and will perform better with that on playback and battery. They perform better with an MP4 file than with a DVD ISO? The ISO would contain VOB files which are some kind of MPEG. Do you have any reference material about that? Mike From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 13:21:03 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:21:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Nov 2015, T L wrote: > Let me second the suggestion of Handbrake. Leave the ISOs where they are > & set up a HandBrakeCLI process with the iPad or iPhone preset to batch > convert the collection. The resulting MP4 or m4v files can be natively > consumed by all modern devices. Plus, as a nice side effect, this will > strip out all of the enforced previews /advertisements that so many DVDs > have these days. It's a better watching experience, especially with kids > who are eager to get to the desired content. I've already stripped out the extra crap, but this Handbrake idea is intriguing. How does it know which title to use? Does it preserve all of the audio tracks and subtitles of all languages? How does it deal with DVD extras? Suppose I have a documentary with 20 short interviews in separate titles -- what happens then? Mike From tlunde at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 13:21:43 2015 From: tlunde at gmail.com (T L) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:21:43 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: The video on DVDs is encoded in the MPEG-2 standard. (Yes, for the pendants in the crowd, it is possible to use MPEG-1, but I'd bet my lunch money that you'll never encounter one in the wild.) Some devices have hardware acceleration for MPEG-2 playback. All modern devices have MPEG-4 hardware acceleration. Having hardware acceleration means a lot of things but, for an iPad, the most pertinent is longer battery life. Mike - You're right: one generally loses the menus and the different playback options of the original DVD by the typical process of converting the ISO file to an MP4 file. For me, that's a bonus: just let the kid watch the movie and not have to wait through all of the extra junk. But, for the same reason, I keep the original ISO file around. Should I really ever want to listen to the director's commentary of Toy Story, I can load up the ISO file and do so. A typical ISO is either 4-ish GB or 8-ish GB. A typical feature movie encoded into MP4 with HandBrake using the iPhone or iPad preset is 1-2 GB. So, it's not that much overhead to keep both around, at least not by the standards of modern hard drives. I don't think you said how many ISO files you have, but you can pick up a 5TB usb external hard drive for $120 at Best Buy which would store over 2500 feature length movies encoded into MP4. So, keeping both the ISO and the MP4 version shouldn't break the bank. Thomas On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > On Fri, 27 Nov 2015, Kristopher Browne wrote: > >> Even more useful, the chips in any modern devices have dedicated MP4 >> decoders and will perform better with that on playback and battery. > > > They perform better with an MP4 file than with a DVD ISO? The ISO would > contain VOB files which are some kind of MPEG. Do you have any reference > material about that? > > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From tlunde at gmail.com Fri Nov 27 13:25:03 2015 From: tlunde at gmail.com (T L) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 13:25:03 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: Handbrake will automatically select the "main movie" (it has some internal heuristics to pick the right track). However, you can manually select any given track. For the selected video track, it will show all available alternate audio tracks and automatically select that of your preferred language. For movies with subtitles you want to see (think the cantana scene in Star Wars Ep IV), you can select the "Foreign Audio Search" option and "burn" them into the video. All that said, there are a small handful of kids DVDs that I haven't converted because, like the example you provided, there are 20 short tracks and "interesting" menu options. But, for the common case, the resulting file provides a much better watching experience. Thomas On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > On Fri, 27 Nov 2015, T L wrote: > >> Let me second the suggestion of Handbrake. Leave the ISOs where they are & >> set up a HandBrakeCLI process with the iPad or iPhone preset to batch >> convert the collection. The resulting MP4 or m4v files can be natively >> consumed by all modern devices. Plus, as a nice side effect, this will strip >> out all of the enforced previews /advertisements that so many DVDs have >> these days. It's a better watching experience, especially with kids who are >> eager to get to the desired content. > > > I've already stripped out the extra crap, but this Handbrake idea is > intriguing. How does it know which title to use? Does it preserve all of > the audio tracks and subtitles of all languages? > > How does it deal with DVD extras? Suppose I have a documentary with 20 > short interviews in separate titles -- what happens then? > > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From tompoe at meltel.net Fri Nov 27 14:10:18 2015 From: tompoe at meltel.net (Tom) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 14:10:18 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> Message-ID: <5658B8AA.4000509@meltel.net> Not sure this is useful, but archive.org is dedicated to providing access to digital files unto perpetuity. One feature of such a service lies with the expertise of the staff at archive.org to make a file available in a range of formats. I suspect that work will continue for the foreseeable future. For example, if I upload a file, the team at archive.org will convert to a variety of formats for me. My child, grandkids, great grandkids, and generations to come will have access to the file, with total confidence the link did not change, ever. Another feature lies with the files in archive.org also being mirrored with The Great Library of Alexandria. Tom On 11/27/2015 01:01 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> DVD to ISO and DVDshrink was a popular application 10 years ago? > > Is there some fancy new thing I don't know about? I don't think I > could afford the disk space 10 years ago to store a lot of DVD ISOs on > my hard drives, so I think it must have been "popular" for rich people. > > Let me know the better way to serve DVDs from a Linux box. > > I don't understand how it would be possible to do better than the ISO > unless I want to delete the menus. Without menus it might be > possible, but what is the format that preserves all of the features > like audio tracks and angles? > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- You cannot be a Republican and support universal health care. Are you a Republican? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: