I didn't read your entire message, but I believe you can still install the old desktop environment with Ubuntu. Barring that, Mint is basically Ubuntu and there are various different desktop-related distributions - Cinnamon, MATE, etc. Look into those! On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Kenneth Lynes wrote: > Hi guys, > I am perplexed lately as to what version of Linux to use. I hated the Unity > desktop and wanted to keep Ubuntu as I really liked it before that change. I > know that underneath it was the same as before and would work best for me, but > I wanted my familiar menu back. > It seems there was some attempt to keep it intact and there was a short time > when on the next update to Ubuntu, the classic look was made available. But > later on this seemed to disappear and I went over to Mint as it seemed to me > that it was the closest thing to having Ubuntu. I think it used the same > repository, but not sure about that. > > My issues have been only that the video ability of linux lags behind so much > from what my extremely hated Microsoft would enable me to use. I used nero > linux for a while last year until my paid for install suddenly would not run > and said it was expired. I bought the app from Nero and they did not say it > would end or only be good for one year. I digress a bit talking about that and > I will have to see if Nero will still honor my version of the program now. > But I would have to use some video conversion programs only available on MS > and kept hoping there would be some progress in the video realm with linux, > but it seems to have stalled or even gotten worse now. Does anyone in the > linux field care if they can deal with the videos in an equal way being done > in MS world? > > Number two issue is the NDAS open source code is available to use in whatever > way is wanted and is given away I am told. No one with ability to fix it does > anything with it so I have to use a windows computer to use the windows > version to see my ndas drives and then use some kind of network windows shared > for my linux computer to see them. > I like the ndas idea as I can have drives on my network which do not have an > address as such and can not be seen from outside the network. Only computers > in the network can see them as they are addressed by the ndas software. > > I want to get rid of all my windows machines, but the lack of doing some of > these things in linux is stopping me. I am not good at the command line now > days. I am getting a bit old and cant remember the various commands easily. So > I rely on the GUI and it is not doing much for me. > > Also, just to comment on the previous days postings about which linux variety > is used and liked most. I want to stay with Ubuntu so is there a way to do it > better than using Mint? > I think it was great to see which distros guys with real expertise were using. > I will read a lot of those postings again. Perhaps we could have a meeting > dedicated to this topic and extoll the virtues of the various distros? > > Thanks for any advice you may give me. > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:11:12 AM CST > From: tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: tclug-list Digest, Vol 121, Issue 49 > >> Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Which linux do you use? (B-o-B De Mars) >> 2. Re: html5 on 3.13.etc kernel (Jeff Chapin) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:00:05 -0600 >> From: B-o-B De Mars <mr.chew.baka at gmail.com> >> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Which linux do you use? >> Message-ID: <54AD3BE5.5030309 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> On 1/7/2015 2:14 AM, paul g wrote: >>> Mr. Bob, would you be able to talk with a noober like me about Slackware >>> sometime? >>> >>> I am interested in your post. Thank you for your time. >>> >> >> Yes.I would be happy to talk about Slackware with you. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:10:03 -0600 >> From: Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >> Message-ID: >> <CAJt84+PCOfWXqUDd8ymp0Z0AHpbpA0QQoYHN4DotKifRhxO2Kw at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Did you install flashplugin-nonfree via apt? Is it the latest version >> provided by Mint? >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:30 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am trying to play 'old music videos' - via - 'youtube' on >>> Linux-Mint17-Mate with kernel -3.14.13-031413-generic-under-firefox 34.0' >>> Currently I have the 11.2.202.425 flash installed. The HTML5 Google > player >>> makes Firefox 34.0' crash after 2-3 songs if that. I think it may be >>> something to do with Cisco systems video Codec. Sorry to ask such a dumb >>> question. Thank you for your time. >>> >>> 0. problem--> I am trying to play 'all kinds of' music videos via youtube >>> on my linuxmint computer. >>> >>> paul g >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 04:11:39 -0600 >>> >>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:44 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Can you take any time off your schedule to help? I apologize for being a >>> noob. >>> >>> >>> You have to state what you are trying to do before anyone can help you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks and happy new year. >>> >>> paul g >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 03:02:41 -0600 >>> >>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >>> >>> I'm not sure what you are trying to say, or how this relates to the rest >>> of this email chain. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:24 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well, look closely -if you have time- and you can see firefox put in /opt >>> now on any current Mint. Thanks for helping me by the way. I kindof > learned >>> to really respect you even though I am 'slow'. >>> >>> paul g >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:12:25 -0600 >>> >>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >>> >>> no. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:12 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Have you tried out Lightspark at all personally? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:39:04 -0600 >>> >>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >>> >>> I'm running Version: 11.2.202.406 of flash, so not much older. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:36 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What version of flash are you running over there? I attached a screenshot >>> of the installed plugins currently on my system. So I should run an older >>> version --> like which version then? I could manually install a version > via >>> terminal I suppose. Thanks for helping as I am sure your aware of my >>> struggles trying to figure any of this stuff out. >>> >>> [image: Emoji] - Happy Holidays >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:16:16 -0600 >>> >>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >>> >>> You can also click on the warning and authorize flash to run either once, >>> or always. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUJMZbNR0d0 >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:12 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Would you please break down how exactly how I can 'authorize Firefox to >>> use the outdated flash plugin'? Sorry to bug you. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:04:06 -0600 >>> >>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >>> >>> Do you need to authorize firefox to use the outdated flash plugin, as >>> previously mentioned? >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:46 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> You know I just took a little break from it. I did a hard reboot logged > in >>> and opened Opera went to YouTube and the music-videos work fine. It looks >>> as is Firefox and not Opera is having the issue. I could swear though > that >>> Opera was not working with the music - videos earlier this morning. Could > I >>> ask for your advice and take on what you would recommend I do? Thanks for >>> your help. >>> >>> [image: Emoji] - Happy Holidays >>> >>> Paul G >>> >>>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:58:36 -0600 >>>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >>>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel >>>> >>>> Now that you mention it, I think I have been doing that for quite some >>>> time, too. That's most likely it. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Shawn Fertch <sfertch at gmail.com> > wrote: >>>>> I thought Adobe killed Flash for Linux. I run into this issue myself > on >>>>> YouTube, etc but havent had time to fix it. So, I just tell it to use >>> the >>>>> old version of flash even if it is outdated. This is on current > Fedora. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 31, 2014 1:30 PM, "Jeff Chapin" <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The likelihood of this being related to ISP behavior is slim to > none. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you installed flash? If you don't want to use the html5 player, > I >>>>>> believe you have to have flash installed and working correctly. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jeff Chapin >>>> President, CedarLug, retired >>>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >>>> President, UNI Scuba Club >>>> Senator, NISG, retired >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Chapin >>> President, CedarLug, retired >>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >>> President, UNI Scuba Club >>> Senator, NISG, retired >>> >>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Chapin >>> President, CedarLug, retired >>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >>> President, UNI Scuba Club >>> Senator, NISG, retired >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Chapin >>> President, CedarLug, retired >>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >>> President, UNI Scuba Club >>> Senator, NISG, retired >>> >>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Chapin >>> President, CedarLug, retired >>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >>> President, UNI Scuba Club >>> Senator, NISG, retired >>> >>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Chapin >>> President, CedarLug, retired >>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >>> President, UNI Scuba Club >>> Senator, NISG, retired >>> >>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Chapin >>> President, CedarLug, retired >>> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >>> President, UNI Scuba Club >>> Senator, NISG, retired >>> >>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - 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