Good point I ran into an issue with Mint/Maya I believe 2 years ago with the Nexuiz 'game' .. you might have the answers - again here Jeff. I', just wondering about your opinions. How can I test NTP cause it's no different via cable or dsl I know that for a for a fact. Help me please 😞 thank you for your time. Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:51:25 -0600 From: chapinjeff at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at the same time. Paul, your kernel/distro does not really matter. NTP is the Network Time Protocol. It's how computers sync clocks up. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: NTP? excuse me.. this is kernel 3.13 linux-Minty-Mate.... can you help me? ☺ Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:44:58 -0600 From: tclug at freakzilla.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at the same time. Now I haven't read any of the other messages in this thread, but isn't this exactly what NTP is for? On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, paul g wrote: > I just performed a soft reboot on the machine. Entered the bios and set the > 24 hour clock to proper 'correct time' and once again upon, logging in > 'time' was displayed differently/inproperly. The concern here is if 'Bios > time is off' <--machine clock' . No entity should have or have the right to > proper UTC time. > > Thanks. > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:29:19 -0600 > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at > the same time. > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:55 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > Well would you be able to recommend a command besides the > following command if you were trying to set a system clock to > tie in with a software clock on a 3.13etc kernel under Debian? > > hwclock --hctosys > > > Why do you want another command? > > I think the above could have saved me alot of pain because if I > were to have to have done = sudo sed -i s/UTC=yes/UTC=no/ > /etc/default/rcS > > it would have been stuck in /etc/default/rcS and what about > updates that could have locked the machine up at > sometime/somepoint. > > > I'm not sure why you think that. > > > Give me your opinion if you have time please? Emoji > > > I don't understand the question. > > > Thank you, > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:47:04 -0600 > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse > to set at the same time. > > Yes. If you use the hwclock command you do not need to use sed > at all. > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:44 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > The command: --> sudo hwclock --systohc <--sets the Bios > clock to the Software UTC clock without giving any output? > > I did not even need to use 'sed' yet. > > cool. > > Am I right about this? > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:41:26 -0600 > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock > refuse to set at the same time. > > Many commands in Linux will only output errors. This is > one of them. > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> > wrote: > The error I expected was an output via --> > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc > > once entered into the terminal as following: > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ > > was the entire output of the command. I guess if you > put it that way though it would be like the good > working 'apt-key list' command on a 3.13 machine vs. > 3.2 <--why did I bring that up again don't ask just > don't ask. > > I'm waiting for your help. > > Thank you. > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:32:49 -0600 > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC > clock refuse to set at the same time. > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, paul g > <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > Helps alot! > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock > Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:22:06 AM CST > -0.078578 seconds > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock > Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:23:02 AM CST > -0.051555 seconds > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock > --systohc > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ > > obviously ^ fails with the --systohc > extension. > > > What do you mean it obviously fails? I see no error. > > > <--why? <--every time I go into bios and > change the time via biox I get an incorrect > time on desktop. I am going to be looking into > this; i'm about 7 hours off by the way. I > thank you for your time and your help. > > > Yeah, your hwclock is set to UTC and you live in a > timezone 7 hours off from UTC. That's to be expected. > > > > Emoji - paul g > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:42:31 -0600 > From: kelly.black at penguinpackets.com > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux > UTC clock refuse to set at the same time. > > Paul, > To set the system clock to the hardware clock > hwclock --hctosys > Other way around: > hwclock --systohc > You should be able to check the hardware clock > by issuing: > hwclock > That will give you an idea of how far off the > hardware clock is. If it is skewed far > enough, you will probably want to go in to the > bios on a reboot and update it. If it does > not stick past power outages, you might want > to replace the cmos battery on the > motherboard. > Hope that helps. > > Fri Jan 02 2015 10:11:42 PM CST > from "paul g" > <pj.world at hotmail.com> Subject: > Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and > Linux UTC clock refuse to set at > the same time. > The question is 'how can I set the hardware > clock to coorolate with the Linux clock'. > > My apologies. > > Happy New year and thank you with the updatedb > stuff' meant alot. > > paul g > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > -- > Jeff Chapin > President, CedarLug, retired > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > President, UNI Scuba Club > Senator, NISG, retired > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG > Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > -- > Jeff Chapin > President, CedarLug, retired > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > President, UNI Scuba Club > Senator, NISG, retired > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing > List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > -- > Jeff Chapin > President, CedarLug, retired > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > President, UNI Scuba Club > Senator, NISG, retired > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > -- > Jeff Chapin > President, CedarLug, retired > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > President, UNI Scuba Club > Senator, NISG, retired > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Jeff Chapin President, CedarLug, retired President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" President, UNI Scuba Club Senator, NISG, retired _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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