Yes. It is.

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:44 AM,  <tclug at freakzilla.com> wrote:
> Now I haven't read any of the other messages in this thread, but isn't this
> exactly what NTP is for?
>
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, paul g wrote:
>
>> I just performed a soft reboot on the machine. Entered the bios and set
>> the
>> 24 hour clock to proper 'correct time' and once again upon, logging in
>> 'time' was displayed differently/inproperly. The concern here is if 'Bios
>> time is off' <--machine clock' . No entity should have or have the right
>> to
>> proper UTC time.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:29:19 -0600
>> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at
>> the same time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:55 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>       Well would you be able to recommend a command besides the
>>       following command if you were trying to set a system clock to
>>       tie in with a software clock on a 3.13etc kernel under Debian?
>>
>>       hwclock --hctosys
>>
>>
>> Why do you want another command?
>>
>>       I think the above could have saved me alot of pain because if I
>>       were to have to have done = sudo sed -i s/UTC=yes/UTC=no/
>>       /etc/default/rcS
>>
>>       it would have been stuck in /etc/default/rcS and what about
>>       updates that could have locked the machine up at
>>       sometime/somepoint.
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure why you think that.
>>
>>
>>       Give me your opinion if you have time please? Emoji
>>
>>
>> I don't understand the question.
>>
>>
>>       Thank you,
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>       Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:47:04 -0600
>>       From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
>>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse
>>       to set at the same time.
>>
>>       Yes. If you use the hwclock command you do not need to use sed
>>       at all.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:44 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>       The command: --> sudo hwclock --systohc <--sets the Bios
>>       clock to the Software UTC clock without giving any output?
>>
>>       I did not even need to use 'sed' yet.
>>
>>       cool.
>>
>>       Am I right about this?
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>       Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:41:26 -0600
>>       From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
>>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock
>>       refuse to set at the same time.
>>
>>       Many commands in Linux will only output errors. This is
>>       one of them.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>       The error I expected was an output via -->
>>       paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc
>>
>>       once entered into the terminal as following:
>>
>>       paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc
>>       paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $
>>
>>       was the entire output of the command. I guess if you
>>       put it that way though it would be like the good
>>       working 'apt-key list' command on a 3.13 machine vs.
>>       3.2 <--why did I bring that up again don't ask just
>>       don't ask.
>>
>>       I'm waiting for your help.
>>
>>       Thank you.
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>       Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:32:49 -0600
>>       From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
>>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC
>>       clock refuse to set at the same time.
>>
>>
>>
>>       On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, paul g
>>       <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>             Helps alot!
>>
>>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock
>>             Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:22:06 AM CST
>>             -0.078578 seconds
>>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $
>>
>>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock
>>             Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:23:02 AM CST
>>             -0.051555 seconds
>>
>>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock
>>             --systohc
>>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $
>>
>>             obviously ^ fails with the --systohc
>>             extension.
>>
>>
>> What do you mean it obviously fails? I see no error.
>>
>>
>>       <--why? <--every time I go into bios and
>>       change the time via biox I get an incorrect
>>       time on desktop. I am going to be looking into
>>       this; i'm about 7 hours off by the way. I
>>       thank you for your time and your help.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, your hwclock is set to UTC and you live in a
>> timezone 7 hours off from UTC. That's to be expected.
>>
>>
>>
>>       Emoji - paul g
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>       Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:42:31 -0600
>>       From: kelly.black at penguinpackets.com
>>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux
>>       UTC clock refuse to set at the same time.
>>
>>       Paul,
>>       To set the system clock to the hardware clock
>>       hwclock --hctosys
>>       Other way around:
>>       hwclock --systohc
>>       You should be able to check the hardware clock
>>       by issuing:
>>       hwclock
>>       That will give you an idea of how far off the
>>       hardware clock is.  If it is skewed far
>>       enough, you will probably want to go in to the
>>       bios on a reboot and update it.  If it does
>>       not stick past power outages, you might want
>>       to replace the cmos battery on the
>>       motherboard.
>>       Hope that helps.
>>
>>             Fri Jan 02 2015 10:11:42 PM CST
>>             from "paul g"
>>             <pj.world at hotmail.com> Subject:
>>             Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and
>>             Linux UTC clock refuse to set at
>>             the same time.
>> The question is 'how can I set the hardware
>> clock to coorolate with the Linux clock'.
>>
>> My apologies.
>>
>> Happy New year and thank you with the updatedb
>> stuff' meant alot.
>>
>> paul g
>>
>>
>>
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