NTP? excuse me.. this is kernel 3.13 linux-Minty-Mate.... can you help me? ☺

Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:44:58 -0600
From: tclug at freakzilla.com
To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at the same time.

Now I haven't read any of the other messages in this thread, but isn't 
this exactly what NTP is for?
 
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, paul g wrote:
 
> I just performed a soft reboot on the machine. Entered the bios and set the
> 24 hour clock to proper 'correct time' and once again upon, logging in
> 'time' was displayed differently/inproperly. The concern here is if 'Bios
> time is off' <--machine clock' . No entity should have or have the right to
> proper UTC time.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:29:19 -0600
> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at
> the same time.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:55 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>       Well would you be able to recommend a command besides the
>       following command if you were trying to set a system clock to
>       tie in with a software clock on a 3.13etc kernel under Debian?
>
>       hwclock --hctosys
> 
> 
> Why do you want another command?
>  
>       I think the above could have saved me alot of pain because if I
>       were to have to have done = sudo sed -i s/UTC=yes/UTC=no/
>       /etc/default/rcS
>
>       it would have been stuck in /etc/default/rcS and what about
>       updates that could have locked the machine up at
>       sometime/somepoint.
> 
> 
> I'm not sure why you think that.
>  
>
>       Give me your opinion if you have time please? Emoji
> 
> 
> I don't understand the question.
>  
>
>       Thank you,
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>       Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:47:04 -0600
>       From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse
>       to set at the same time.
>
>       Yes. If you use the hwclock command you do not need to use sed
>       at all.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:44 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>       The command: --> sudo hwclock --systohc <--sets the Bios
>       clock to the Software UTC clock without giving any output?
>
>       I did not even need to use 'sed' yet.
>
>       cool.
>
>       Am I right about this?
> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>       Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:41:26 -0600
>       From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock
>       refuse to set at the same time.
>
>       Many commands in Linux will only output errors. This is
>       one of them.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>       The error I expected was an output via -->
>       paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc
>
>       once entered into the terminal as following:
>
>       paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc
>       paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $
>
>       was the entire output of the command. I guess if you
>       put it that way though it would be like the good
>       working 'apt-key list' command on a 3.13 machine vs.
>       3.2 <--why did I bring that up again don't ask just
>       don't ask.
>
>       I'm waiting for your help.
>
>       Thank you.
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>       Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:32:49 -0600
>       From: chapinjeff at gmail.com
>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC
>       clock refuse to set at the same time.
> 
> 
>
>       On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, paul g
>       <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>             Helps alot!
>
>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock
>             Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:22:06 AM CST 
>             -0.078578 seconds
>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $
>
>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock
>             Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:23:02 AM CST 
>             -0.051555 seconds
>
>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock
>             --systohc
>             paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $
>
>             obviously ^ fails with the --systohc
>             extension.
> 
> 
> What do you mean it obviously fails? I see no error.
> 
>  
>       <--why? <--every time I go into bios and
>       change the time via biox I get an incorrect
>       time on desktop. I am going to be looking into
>       this; i'm about 7 hours off by the way. I
>       thank you for your time and your help.
> 
> 
> Yeah, your hwclock is set to UTC and you live in a
> timezone 7 hours off from UTC. That's to be expected.
> 
> 
>  
>       Emoji - paul g
> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>       To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>       Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:42:31 -0600
>       From: kelly.black at penguinpackets.com
>       Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux
>       UTC clock refuse to set at the same time.
>
>       Paul,
>       To set the system clock to the hardware clock
>       hwclock --hctosys
>       Other way around:
>       hwclock --systohc
>       You should be able to check the hardware clock
>       by issuing:
>       hwclock
>       That will give you an idea of how far off the
>       hardware clock is.  If it is skewed far
>       enough, you will probably want to go in to the
>       bios on a reboot and update it.  If it does
>       not stick past power outages, you might want
>       to replace the cmos battery on the
>       motherboard.
>       Hope that helps.
>        
>             Fri Jan 02 2015 10:11:42 PM CST
>             from "paul g"
>             <pj.world at hotmail.com> Subject:
>             Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and
>             Linux UTC clock refuse to set at
>             the same time.
> The question is 'how can I set the hardware
> clock to coorolate with the Linux clock'.
> 
> My apologies.
> 
> Happy New year and thank you with the updatedb
> stuff' meant alot.
> 
> paul g
> 
> 
> 
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