Wow, that discussion is older, I don't remember much about it. I've been using xfce4 consistently for awhile, which actually should do just about everything you're asking (easily 90% of it). Although, with the minimalist approach, you would be better off with fvwm2, as Brian is suggesting. I'm confident that would also be similar to meeting your demands like xfce4. Really it comes down to how much time you would like to spend configuring this. Xfce gives you options with gui and config files, whereas fvwm2 is going to need a lot of work with config files and limited gui configuration. Arch based distros have access to fvwm2 and xfce4 in the main Arch repo: pacman -S fvwm The above command will grab fvwm2. Take a look here, several links to guides in addition to getting it running with an Arch based distro on the well maintained wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FVWM -- Jeremy MountainJohnson Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:30 AM, gregrwm <tclug1 at whitleymott.net> wrote: > On Mar 9, 2013 3:55 PM, "Jeremy MountainJohnson" wrote: >> You actually still use twm? You should try a more lightweight distro >> that has better support for it. Still works in Arch Linux. > > distro/de/wm hopping is not what floats my boat, tho i have been warming to > notions like helpful forums, and things working more often. and twm does > let me down a tad, afterall, eg no drag&drop. so.. archbang? bodhi? > crunchbang? hmm.. > > not thrilled to embark on a personal quest for forgotten features, perhaps i > might rather gather some clues from you lot, perhaps you can help me take a > peek at the larger world. > > what WMs do you know, that can actually behave such that an arriving popup > does not steal the focus? > > if there's actually a WM or two out there that can behave that way, well, > here's my list of desirable features, approximately in order of > desirability: > > arriving popups do not misdirect ongoing typing > lightweight > window icons may be placed anywhere > titlebars not full width > drag&drop > zooms, left,right,full,top,bottom > no superflous annoying taskbar > focus follows mouse > configurable keystrokes and mouseclicks > titlebar buttons optional > > super if you can point me to relevant feature documentation, nice even to > hear which of these features you think exist on a certain wm. tia! > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >