I Have not tried groupadd yet I have only very limited experience with the 'usermod -G filename -a filename' etc. The Mate desktop is the desktop I have been using lately so it does actually have a nice gui user/group utility which I have used to add another user and a visitor account. I will have to research more about 'groupadd'. So basically I would be adding Appache to the video group that's what it looks like so far on my end. Thank you for reminding me about the groupadd command I know it is similar to the usermod command but definitely not the same. I have used the usermod -G command to add or append existing groups to one another in the past but that is about as far as my experience goes. In the article I was reading they have the following line. sudo adduser www-data video <--does www-data look like something that has to do with Apache to you? gobble gobble Thanks for your time. paul g, From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:38:08 -0600 To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Add Apache User to the Video Group? So it’s in a *FILE*. Typically that’s how *nix operates. Have you tried “groupadd”? On Feb 1, 2015, at 1:33 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:The video group is displayed if I type cat /etc/groups in terminal on my machine. So if I install or activate Appache webserver my need would be to apparently usermod appache saned . I was looking under /dev and you are most likely correct that hardware is only listed in that folder. I don't know what to expect with Appache yet as my experience overall is very limited. gobble gobble thanks, paul g From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:34:09 -0600 To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Add Apache User to the Video Group? I use webmin for my basic user management (but I don’t use a GUI).I don’t ever remember seeing usergroups in /dev/ so it must be an idiosyncrasies with your choice of platform. On Feb 1, 2015, at 6:20 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:How can I do this when on any 3.+ kernel there is no video group listed? If I open gui user settings within the desky top, ya I can see 'video' group but no 'video' group shows up under /dev yet. Gobble Gobble. paul g _______________________________________________TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesotatclug-list at mn-linux.orghttp://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list_______________________________________________TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesotatclug-list at mn-linux.orghttp://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20150201/8604ae23/attachment-0001.html>