From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Thu Oct 2 07:38:47 2014 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 07:38:47 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] xfs Message-ID: seems xfs is only available for 64bit centos 6, not at all for centos 5, and centos 7 has only been released for 64bit. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From canito at dalan.us Fri Oct 3 13:01:02 2014 From: canito at dalan.us (canito at dalan.us) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 13:01:02 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] OT: Job Opportunities Message-ID: <20141003130102.Horde.m2zVl58Gc8x1Tjm7kZHwMQ1@mail.dalan.us> Hello Everyone- Just thought I would bring attention to two current opportunities available with my current employer St Jude Medical. Both opportunities are for the UNIX team one being a Sr. position. The Sr. job posting is up at sjm dot com --> careers: Sr. Systems Administrator - Unix - (140001QN) Not sure if the second opportunity has been posted, but you can view the Sr position to get some insight. If you have any questions please e-mail me off-line. Thanks, SDA From mr.chew.baka at gmail.com Fri Oct 3 19:03:58 2014 From: mr.chew.baka at gmail.com (B-o-B De Mars) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:03:58 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] xfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <542F396E.2010204@gmail.com> On 10/2/2014 7:38 AM, gregrwm wrote: > seems xfs is only available for 64bit centos 6, not at all for centos 5, > and centos 7 has only been released for 64bit. Linus has mentioned that 32bit is "less important". It's only a matter of time before 32bit is phazed out completely. Kinda like when 32bit showed up taking 16bits place in the world. 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URL: From wdtj at yahoo.com Sat Oct 4 10:14:44 2014 From: wdtj at yahoo.com (Wayne Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 08:14:44 -0700 Subject: [tclug-list] [off topic, kinda of] BMC is looking for a Software QA Engineer. Message-ID: <1412435684.23124.YahooMailNeo@web142601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Check the link below for details for this position. https://bmcsoftware.taleo.net/careersection/jobdetail.ftl?job=14002998&lang=en&sns_id=yahoomail --- Wayne Johnson, | There are two kinds of people: Those 3943 Penn Ave. N. | who say to God, "Thy will be done," Minneapolis, MN 55412-1908 | and those to whom God says, "All right, (612) 522-7003 | then, have it your way." --C.S. Lewis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.armbrust.list at gmail.com Sat Oct 4 13:23:13 2014 From: daniel.armbrust.list at gmail.com (Dan Armbrust) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:23:13 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] 15 pin to 9 pin serial adapter? Message-ID: <54303B11.8090708@gmail.com> Does anyone have a 15 pin to 9 pin serial adapter in a box collecting dust that they would like to part with? Thanks, Dan From mr.chew.baka at gmail.com Sat Oct 4 14:04:19 2014 From: mr.chew.baka at gmail.com (B-o-B De Mars) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 14:04:19 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] 15 pin to 9 pin serial adapter? In-Reply-To: <54303B11.8090708@gmail.com> References: <54303B11.8090708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <543044B3.9070809@gmail.com> On 10/4/2014 1:23 PM, Dan Armbrust wrote: > Does anyone have a 15 pin to 9 pin serial adapter in a box collecting > dust that they would like to part with? > I believe I have a few at work, and I can part with one. Send me your # off list, and I will confirm on Monday & give you a call. From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Sat Oct 4 16:05:10 2014 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:05:10 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] 15 pin to 9 pin serial adapter? Message-ID: > > Does anyone have a 15 pin to 9 pin serial adapter in a box collecting dust > that they would like to part with? > yes. cost to you: you have to take the whole box! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.armbrust.list at gmail.com Sat Oct 4 18:41:45 2014 From: daniel.armbrust.list at gmail.com (Dan Armbrust) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 18:41:45 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] 25 pin to 9 pin serial adapter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <543085B9.7020500@gmail.com> Hmm, shoot. I just realized I actually need a 25 pin to 9 pin, not a 15 pin to 9 pin Bad memory.... Thanks, Dan From tclug at freakzilla.com Sat Oct 4 21:10:37 2014 From: tclug at freakzilla.com (tclug at freakzilla.com) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:10:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [tclug-list] 25 pin to 9 pin serial adapter? In-Reply-To: <543085B9.7020500@gmail.com> References: <543085B9.7020500@gmail.com> Message-ID: I assumed "15" was a typo, personally (; On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Dan Armbrust wrote: > Hmm, shoot. I just realized I actually need a 25 pin to 9 pin, not a 15 pin > to 9 pin Bad memory.... > > Thanks, > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Sat Oct 11 00:31:11 2014 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 00:31:11 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] elusive wifi Message-ID: i prepared a thumbdrive with grub and a selection of lubuntu iso's for easy installing. then tested in a free partition on a (dell inspiron) laptop. installed trusty. no wifi. installed precise. no wifi. but huh?! this laptop has been running precise for ages, and still is, not in the test partition, and wifi works just fine there! i installed it myself, ages ago, and don't remember having to do anything odd or special. can anyone drop me some clues how to make wifi work on the new installs, or what to compare between the two partitions? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com Sat Oct 11 08:47:16 2014 From: jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com (Jeremy MountainJohnson) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 08:47:16 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] elusive wifi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What other details do you have on the wifi device? Could you post chipset details of lspci output, or if usb, lsusb? Usually with the newer kernels they are adding drivers, not removing them, so unless Precise was using a wrapper with additional configuration or you installed some funky firmware to establish wifi connectivity previously, it should work. My bet is some firmware didn't get installed on your latest installs and it's likely a Broadcom wifi card since you mentioned an older laptop and are using some older kernel versions. If so, I'd look into getting the appropriate firmware to supplement the kernel drivers. Not an Ubuntu guy outside of the servers, but they probably have a gui you can search for firmware in. Isn't there one for drivers too? Assuming you can plug into Ethernet I suppose... Or use a thumb drive to transfer necessary packages over to the new install and use dpkg. -- Jeremy MountainJohnson Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM, gregrwm wrote: > i prepared a thumbdrive with grub and a selection of lubuntu iso's for easy > installing. then tested in a free partition on a (dell inspiron) laptop. > installed trusty. no wifi. installed precise. no wifi. but huh?! this > laptop has been running precise for ages, and still is, not in the test > partition, and wifi works just fine there! i installed it myself, ages ago, > and don't remember having to do anything odd or special. > > can anyone drop me some clues how to make wifi work on the new installs, or > what to compare between the two partitions? > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From goodell70 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 11 09:59:36 2014 From: goodell70 at yahoo.com (Mark Goodell) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 07:59:36 -0700 Subject: [tclug-list] elusive wifi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1413039576.40258.YahooMailBasic@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I've got a (0.5G Mem) Compaq Presario (M2000) with Linux Mint loaded on it, but need assistance getting the wifi to work. It's a Broadcom, and I've downloaded what I think is the required driver. Does anyone know how to install a driver like this from the command line, or would otherwise know what to do? Thank you. Mark G. -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 10/11/14, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: Subject: Re: [tclug-list] elusive wifi To: "TCLUG Mailing List" Date: Saturday, October 11, 2014, 6:47 AM What other details do you have on the wifi device? Could you post chipset details of lspci output, or if usb, lsusb? Usually with the newer kernels they are adding drivers, not removing them, so unless Precise was using a wrapper with additional configuration or you installed some funky firmware to establish wifi connectivity previously, it should work. My bet is some firmware didn't get installed on your latest installs and it's likely a Broadcom wifi card since you mentioned an older laptop and are using some older kernel versions. If so, I'd look into getting the appropriate firmware to supplement the kernel drivers. Not an Ubuntu guy outside of the servers, but they probably have a gui you can search for firmware in. Isn't there one for drivers too? Assuming you can plug into Ethernet I suppose... Or use a thumb drive to transfer necessary packages over to the new install and use dpkg. -- Jeremy MountainJohnson Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM, gregrwm wrote: > i prepared a thumbdrive with grub and a selection of lubuntu iso's for easy > installing.? then tested in a free partition on a (dell inspiron) laptop. > installed trusty.? no wifi.? installed precise.? no wifi.? but huh?!? this > laptop has been running precise for ages, and still is, not in the test > partition, and wifi works just fine there!? i installed it myself, ages ago, > and don't remember having to do anything odd or special. > > can anyone drop me some clues how to make wifi work on the new installs, or > what to compare between the two partitions? > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Sun Oct 12 01:27:27 2014 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:27:27 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] elusive wifi In-Reply-To: <1413039576.40258.YahooMailBasic@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1413039576.40258.YahooMailBasic@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > # lspci >... > 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) >... i've gone to the trouble of equalizing the packagesets (between the two precise partitions, one with wifi working, the other not). interestingly, that's made no difference. On 11 October 2014 08:47, Jeremy MountainJohnson < jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com> wrote: > What other details do you have on the wifi device? Could you post > chipset details of lspci output, or if usb, lsusb? > > Usually with the newer kernels they are adding drivers, not removing > them, so unless Precise was using a wrapper with additional > configuration or you installed some funky firmware to establish wifi > connectivity previously, it should work. > > My bet is some firmware didn't get installed on your latest installs > and it's likely a Broadcom wifi card since you mentioned an older > laptop and are using some older kernel versions. If so, I'd look into > getting the appropriate firmware to supplement the kernel drivers. > > Not an Ubuntu guy outside of the servers, but they probably have a gui > you can search for firmware in. Isn't there one for drivers too? > Assuming you can plug into Ethernet I suppose... Or use a thumb drive > to transfer necessary packages over to the new install and use dpkg. > > -- > Jeremy MountainJohnson > Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com > > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM, gregrwm wrote: > > i prepared a thumbdrive with grub and a selection of lubuntu iso's for > easy > > installing. then tested in a free partition on a (dell inspiron) laptop. > > installed trusty. no wifi. installed precise. no wifi. but huh?! > this > > laptop has been running precise for ages, and still is, not in the test > > partition, and wifi works just fine there! i installed it myself, ages > ago, > > and don't remember having to do anything odd or special. > > > > can anyone drop me some clues how to make wifi work on the new installs, > or > > what to compare between the two partitions? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com Sun Oct 12 16:19:32 2014 From: jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com (Jeremy MountainJohnson) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 16:19:32 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] elusive wifi In-Reply-To: References: <1413039576.40258.YahooMailBasic@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looks like the driver is in the kernel. uname -r will give the kernel version on whichever distro / version you're running. The specific series of your card had issues over the summer in kernel 3.15 (and possibly before as well), that were fixed in later revisions of 3.15.x and for sure 3.16. Not sure on lts kernel though. So, that said, you should have seen a variance in kernel versions between the two Precise partitions either with the kernel and/or firmware of the wifi card, this is my best assumption. Although you said that didn't matter when you checked package sets? This should also help, Broadcom plays an active role in their Linux drivers and the kernel (site also has instructions for installing firmware in Ubuntu): http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices Good luck, -- Jeremy MountainJohnson Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 1:27 AM, gregrwm wrote: >> # lspci >>... >> 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN >> (rev 01) >>... > > i've gone to the trouble of equalizing the packagesets (between the two > precise partitions, one with wifi working, the other not). interestingly, > that's made no difference. > > On 11 October 2014 08:47, Jeremy MountainJohnson > wrote: >> >> What other details do you have on the wifi device? Could you post >> chipset details of lspci output, or if usb, lsusb? >> >> Usually with the newer kernels they are adding drivers, not removing >> them, so unless Precise was using a wrapper with additional >> configuration or you installed some funky firmware to establish wifi >> connectivity previously, it should work. >> >> My bet is some firmware didn't get installed on your latest installs >> and it's likely a Broadcom wifi card since you mentioned an older >> laptop and are using some older kernel versions. If so, I'd look into >> getting the appropriate firmware to supplement the kernel drivers. >> >> Not an Ubuntu guy outside of the servers, but they probably have a gui >> you can search for firmware in. Isn't there one for drivers too? >> Assuming you can plug into Ethernet I suppose... Or use a thumb drive >> to transfer necessary packages over to the new install and use dpkg. >> >> -- >> Jeremy MountainJohnson >> Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM, gregrwm wrote: >> > i prepared a thumbdrive with grub and a selection of lubuntu iso's for >> > easy >> > installing. then tested in a free partition on a (dell inspiron) >> > laptop. >> > installed trusty. no wifi. installed precise. no wifi. but huh?! >> > this >> > laptop has been running precise for ages, and still is, not in the test >> > partition, and wifi works just fine there! i installed it myself, ages >> > ago, >> > and don't remember having to do anything odd or special. >> > >> > can anyone drop me some clues how to make wifi work on the new installs, >> > or >> > what to compare between the two partitions? >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 01:23:31 2014 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:23:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [tclug-list] October 23rd: FinalRelease, Ubuntu 14.10 Message-ID: So the Utopic Unicorn is coming soon. This is causing me to wonder what happens after 17.04 (Zebra?). Do we start at 'A' again? Mike From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Mon Oct 13 10:47:52 2014 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:47:52 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] October 23rd: FinalRelease, Ubuntu 14.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <543BF428.5040505@cwis.biz> I vote for it being called Zygote... But that's just me. I haven't noticed that all their releases are named after animals (real or mythical)... are they? On 10/13/2014 1:23 AM, Mike Miller wrote: > So the Utopic Unicorn is coming soon. This is causing me to wonder > what happens after 17.04 (Zebra?). Do we start at 'A' again? > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From eminmn at sysmatrix.net Mon Oct 13 12:43:06 2014 From: eminmn at sysmatrix.net (e.c.) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:43:06 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] October 23rd: FinalRelease, Ubuntu 14.10 In-Reply-To: <543BF428.5040505@cwis.biz> References: <543BF428.5040505@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > I vote for it being called Zygote... But that's just me. > > I haven't noticed that all their releases are named after animals (real or > mythical)... are they? Yes, types of animals and zygote isn't a type of animal. Since there are many more alphabets full of animals than Toy Story characters, maybe after Zebra ... Aardvark, versions should have a u or d suffix so that Ubuntu doesn't forget where it came from and can be brought into synch with Debian. Hopefully, before we have to have recourse to extinct animal species names, both os flavors will be folded together so that one of them will go extinct. Distro bloat is the greatest evil that the uxes suffer from. Ed > > > On 10/13/2014 1:23 AM, Mike Miller wrote: >> >> So the Utopic Unicorn is coming soon. This is causing me to wonder what >> happens after 17.04 (Zebra?). Do we start at 'A' again? >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 18:22:23 2014 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:22:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [tclug-list] October 23rd: FinalRelease, Ubuntu 14.10 In-Reply-To: References: <543BF428.5040505@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, e.c. wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> I vote for it being called Zygote... But that's just me. >> >> I haven't noticed that all their releases are named after animals (real or >> mythical)... are they? > > Yes, types of animals and zygote isn't a type of animal. Since there are > many more alphabets full of animals than Toy Story characters, maybe > after Zebra ... Aardvark, versions should have a u or d suffix so that > Ubuntu doesn't forget where it came from and can be brought into synch > with Debian. Hopefully, before we have to have recourse to extinct > animal species names, both os flavors will be folded together so that > one of them will go extinct. Distro bloat is the greatest evil that the > uxes suffer from. I'm interested in what you are saying, but I don't understand it. What would u or d suffixes represent? Would that follow the number, as in Ubuntu 18.04d? What is "distro bloat?" Does that mean that one distro is bloated, or that we have a large number of slightly different distros out there? Mike From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 18:44:19 2014 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [tclug-list] October 23rd: FinalRelease, Ubuntu 14.10 In-Reply-To: References: <543BF428.5040505@cwis.biz> Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, e.c. wrote: > maybe after Zebra ... Aardvark I guess they don't really know what the new convention will be, but the weirdest thing is, they never had an A version or a C version, they did H twice, and they did W first. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames They started with Warty Warthog (4.10), followed that with Hoary Hedgehog (5.04) then Breezy Badger (5.10), then Dapper Drake (6.06 LTS) and only after that were versions alphabetical - E,F,G, etc. I never knew about that weirdness in the initial early naming scheme. So I guess they don't care all that much about alphabetizing. The names are already messed up in that regard. If I were them, I'd just go back to A after Z and repeat the Adjective Animal system with different words. They already have a lot of proposed names from the first time around. Mike From lkateley at kateley.com Tue Oct 14 13:48:00 2014 From: lkateley at kateley.com (Linda Kateley) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:48:00 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] open-zfs bootcamp Message-ID: <543D6FE0.5080509@kateley.com> I just got finished posting a Open-ZFS bootcamp Enjoy http://kateleyco.com/?page_id=783 linda k From jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org Tue Oct 14 21:38:59 2014 From: jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org (Joseph Key) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:38:59 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] elusive wifi In-Reply-To: References: <1413039576.40258.YahooMailBasic@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <543DDE43.1070902@tomobiki.dyndns.org> Have you looked at dmesg and /var/log/messages for device configuration startup messages. I have found several times a message that list the firmware file that is missing for the wifi devices. I have a slax thumb drive that I had to add a firmware file to get a broadcom wifi to work on a fujitsu laptop. Joseph From canito at dalan.us Tue Oct 14 23:30:19 2014 From: canito at dalan.us (canito at dalan.us) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:30:19 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] open-zfs bootcamp In-Reply-To: <543D6FE0.5080509@kateley.com> References: <543D6FE0.5080509@kateley.com> Message-ID: <20141014233019.Horde.PL3eBiCIsrqWcR90Phfjqw1@mail.dalan.us> Quoting Linda Kateley : > I just got finished posting a Open-ZFS bootcamp > > Enjoy > > http://kateleyco.com/?page_id=783 > > linda k > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list Thank you Linda, I look forward to watching all of the videos. I will say that the YouTube video sent out earlier about Netflix with FreeBSD not utilizing ZFS, was quite interesting. I first started using ZFS on FreeBSD 8.0 (or around then). And now Btrfs is gaining momentum. For me, it would be a plus to work with ZFS on FreeBSD, since it's a passion of mine. SDA From lkateley at kateley.com Wed Oct 15 09:23:24 2014 From: lkateley at kateley.com (Linda Kateley) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:23:24 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] open-zfs bootcamp In-Reply-To: <20141014233019.Horde.PL3eBiCIsrqWcR90Phfjqw1@mail.dalan.us> References: <543D6FE0.5080509@kateley.com> <20141014233019.Horde.PL3eBiCIsrqWcR90Phfjqw1@mail.dalan.us> Message-ID: <543E835C.5070600@kateley.com> On 10/14/14, 11:30 PM, canito at dalan.us wrote: > Quoting Linda Kateley : > >> I just got finished posting a Open-ZFS bootcamp >> >> Enjoy >> >> http://kateleyco.com/?page_id=783 >> >> linda k >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > Thank you Linda, I look forward to watching all of the videos. I will > say that the YouTube video sent out earlier about Netflix with FreeBSD > not utilizing ZFS, was quite interesting. That is interesting.. One of the ex-sun engineers, who wrote the code for zfs l2 arc, went to netflix about 6 months ago.. > I first started using ZFS on FreeBSD 8.0 (or around then). And now > Btrfs is gaining momentum. For me, it would be a plus to work with ZFS > on FreeBSD, since it's a passion of mine. > > SDA > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Thu Oct 16 12:10:14 2014 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:10:14 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] poodle/breach/crime Message-ID: poodle i think i understand, disable ssl in servers and browsers. breach/crime are still issues too if i read correctly, tho i'm less sure i understand, but i think the advice is encrypt or compress as you wish, but don't do both. the question: where are we at with firefox, chrome, and apache regarding following this advice? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, EFF had a notification about upgrading the HTTPS everywhere plugin, the latest version will mitigate (prevent) the use of SSLv3 certs. -- Jeremy MountainJohnson Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, gregrwm wrote: > poodle i think i understand, disable ssl in servers and browsers. > breach/crime are still issues too if i read correctly, tho i'm less sure i > understand, but i think the advice is encrypt or compress as you wish, but > don't do both. the question: where are we at with firefox, chrome, and > apache regarding following this advice? > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Thu Oct 16 14:34:50 2014 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:34:50 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] poodle/breach/crime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54401DDA.6040602@cwis.biz> Default support, right? We can turn it on for a site if we need to? I imagine many of those SAAS tools I have installed are not TLS-compliant... On 10/16/2014 12:38 PM, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: > Mozilla is getting rid of SSLv3 in version 34. I imagine Chrome will > follow, and MS will phase it out on the client side for supported > versions. The biggest issue the browsers have is not supporting it and > web sites that depend on SSL 3.0. IMO these sites should join the herd > and migrate over to TLS. > > Apache, nginx, and IIS can all be configured not to authenticate using > SSLv3 chain with their respectively configured certificates. This is > what most web admins are doing, in conjunction with killing support > for older browser versions. For example, anything below IE 8 depends > on SSLv3, so these browsers are out of luck (and significantly out of > date) for accessing sites configured to not us SSLv3. > > Also, EFF had a notification about upgrading the HTTPS everywhere > plugin, the latest version will mitigate (prevent) the use of SSLv3 > certs. > > -- > Jeremy MountainJohnson > Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM, gregrwm wrote: >> poodle i think i understand, disable ssl in servers and browsers. >> breach/crime are still issues too if i read correctly, tho i'm less sure i >> understand, but i think the advice is encrypt or compress as you wish, but >> don't do both. the question: where are we at with firefox, chrome, and >> apache regarding following this advice? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From eminmn at sysmatrix.net Fri Oct 17 08:55:18 2014 From: eminmn at sysmatrix.net (e.c.) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:55:18 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] levovo t-400 keyboard Message-ID: Hello linux gurus: I am trying to set up the keyboard in Mint 17 to use with Emacs and want bottom row keys right of the Fn key to be assigned to super, alt, ctl, space, ctl, alt, super (with alt as meta). xev won't trap the left windows key but raises a popup instead. I read somewhere that ubuntu derivatives don't support xmodmap after version 13. Is that possible? Who would have the authority to leave it out? Anyway, is it possible to make that left windows key act as left alt for all users, in both terminal and gui and to keep the definition through suspend, hibernate, power off? There is supposed to be something called halevt.xml that remaps keys directly as it gets them from the kernel but I have nothing like that in /etc directory. The mint repository has only hal-info as far as I can tell. Any ideas? Ed From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Sun Oct 19 07:21:24 2014 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:21:24 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] elusive wifi In-Reply-To: References: <1413039576.40258.YahooMailBasic@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: works now. i threw out the home directories, and booted them both again. maybe last time i hadn't booted the most recent kernel, that would be an "oops", and would fit with what you said jeremy. thanks guys. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pj.world at hotmail.com Tue Oct 21 00:07:41 2014 From: pj.world at hotmail.com (paul g) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:07:41 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Nvidia 6600GT Driver: Message-ID: For some time the 173.xx has been a standard on my computer that operates under Linux Mint Maya = 3.2.59 kernel. I was upset because it was always being told to me that the 304.xx driver would work. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <544D722F.1050107@e-skinner.net> One that doesn't crash! :) What distro are you running? - that might help us guide you to a kernel. Typically, you want to be running the latest kernel for the particular distro, as it will have the latest security, and bug patches already applied. On 10/26/2014 07:58 AM, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: > Depends; what are you wanting out of it? More hardware support? Tweaked > for desktop? > > -- > Jeremy MountainJohnson > Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:10 PM, paul g > wrote: > > What is the best kernel to run with Maya? > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com Sun Oct 26 17:46:32 2014 From: jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com (Jeremy MountainJohnson) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:46:32 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] A question about kernels. In-Reply-To: <544D722F.1050107@e-skinner.net> References: <544D722F.1050107@e-skinner.net> Message-ID: Most of them don't crash, especially without proprietary drivers and sticking with CLI ;-) Maya is Mint Linux. -- Jeremy MountainJohnson Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Marc Skinner wrote: > One that doesn't crash! :) > > What distro are you running? - that might help us guide you to a kernel. > Typically, you want to be running the latest kernel for the particular > distro, as it will have the latest security, and bug patches already > applied. > > > > On 10/26/2014 07:58 AM, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: > >> Depends; what are you wanting out of it? More hardware support? Tweaked >> for desktop? >> >> -- >> Jeremy MountainJohnson >> Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com > > >> >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:10 PM, paul g > > wrote: >> >> What is the best kernel to run with Maya? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marc at e-skinner.net Sun Oct 26 22:27:18 2014 From: marc at e-skinner.net (Marc Skinner) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:27:18 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] A question about kernels. In-Reply-To: References: <544D722F.1050107@e-skinner.net> Message-ID: <544DBB96.6030706@e-skinner.net> Too funny - this is what I thought of when I heard Maya - http://www.autodesk.com/products/maya/overview On 10/26/2014 05:46 PM, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: > Most of them don't crash, especially without proprietary drivers and > sticking with CLI ;-) > > Maya is Mint Linux. > > -- > Jeremy MountainJohnson > Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Marc Skinner > wrote: > > One that doesn't crash! :) > > What distro are you running? - that might help us guide you to a > kernel. Typically, you want to be running the latest kernel for the > particular distro, as it will have the latest security, and bug > patches already applied. > > > > On 10/26/2014 07:58 AM, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: > > Depends; what are you wanting out of it? More hardware support? > Tweaked > for desktop? > > -- > Jeremy MountainJohnson > Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.__com > > > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:10 PM, paul g > >> wrote: > > What is the best kernel to run with Maya? > > _________________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/__mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/__mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _________________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/__mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From tclug at freakzilla.com Sun Oct 26 22:49:59 2014 From: tclug at freakzilla.com (tclug at freakzilla.com) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:49:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [tclug-list] A question about kernels. In-Reply-To: <544DBB96.6030706@e-skinner.net> References: <544D722F.1050107@e-skinner.net> <544DBB96.6030706@e-skinner.net> Message-ID: That's what I thought, too. On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Marc Skinner wrote: > Too funny - this is what I thought of when I heard Maya - > > http://www.autodesk.com/products/maya/overview > > > > > > > > On 10/26/2014 05:46 PM, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: >> Most of them don't crash, especially without proprietary drivers and >> sticking with CLI ;-) >> >> Maya is Mint Linux. >> >> -- >> Jeremy MountainJohnson >> Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com >> >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Marc Skinner > > wrote: >> >> One that doesn't crash! :) >> >> What distro are you running? - that might help us guide you to a >> kernel. Typically, you want to be running the latest kernel for the >> particular distro, as it will have the latest security, and bug >> patches already applied. >> >> >> >> On 10/26/2014 07:58 AM, Jeremy MountainJohnson wrote: >> >> Depends; what are you wanting out of it? More hardware support? >> Tweaked >> for desktop? >> >> -- >> Jeremy MountainJohnson >> Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.__com >> >> > > >> >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:10 PM, paul g > >> >> wrote: >> >> What is the best kernel to run with Maya? >> >> _________________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/__mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/__mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/__mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From woodbrian77 at gmail.com Mon Oct 27 13:58:55 2014 From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:58:55 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] MeetBSD conference Message-ID: >From what I understand http://bsdnow.tv is going to broadcast some of the Meet BSD conference https://www.meetbsd.com/ this weekend. -- Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust. http://webEbenezer.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm using latest U14.10 on a T410 Thinkpad with (I think) a Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (from "lshw -C network") wifi card. My trouble is that a connection to my xfinity wifi will show good connection, but wait some 2, 5, 10 minutes before an actual Internet connection is actually working. Any ideas what's causing this? LB formerly of Grand Marais now NoIndiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galanolwe at yahoo.com Thu Oct 30 10:21:10 2014 From: galanolwe at yahoo.com (Olwe Bottorff) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast Wifi problems References: Message-ID: <152571410.428783.1414682471073.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I think we've whittled it down to there being too many devices trying to be on the system. Learned the modem will support up to 10 devices (7 realistically). Told also that we need another "access point". I'm guessing that means a whole 'nother modem/network. 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But if you try to do 1 single SSID and put them all on at once? Death by wifi. Even my high-end gear I sell and install (Xirrus) for my day job has limitations of 30 active users per radio without any special configurations out of the box. A single radio *could* support 100 devices if you tune it right but you don't have that type of option on consumer hardware, especially the free stuff you get from Comcast. Do you have to use the Comcast radio? Can you buy your own and plug that in instead? -- Ryan On 10/30/2014 10:21 AM, Olwe Bottorff wrote: > I think we've whittled it down to there being too many devices trying > to be on the system. Learned the modem will support up to 10 devices > (7 realistically). Told also that we need another "access point". I'm > guessing that means a whole 'nother modem/network. Is there any way > around this? Signal strength boosting won't help, will it? > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From galanolwe at yahoo.com Thu Oct 30 13:10:50 2014 From: galanolwe at yahoo.com (Olwe Bottorff) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast Wifi problems In-Reply-To: <545268CF.8010207@cwis.biz> References: <545268CF.8010207@cwis.biz> Message-ID: <467772474.422500.1414692650902.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10678.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Not sure what you mean by "comcast radio". I think we have 2 SSIDs, a 5. and a 2.4 on our Cisco XB3 -- and yeah, I think *many* devices are trying to get on the 5.0 ---LB On Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:35 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: I a real world situation never trust more than 2 or 3 devices on an AP. I have three in my house - 6 phones, two computers, three wireless set-top boxes, etc... each of the fixed set-tops are on their own SSID (which are part of the group - not hidden or anything), the PCs use the 5GHz SSIDs (there are 2) and the phones go on the 2.4s that are available... we never have connection issues. But if you try to do 1 single SSID and put them all on at once? Death by wifi. Even my high-end gear I sell and install (Xirrus) for my day job has limitations of 30 active users per radio without any special configurations out of the box. A single radio *could* support 100 devices if you tune it right but you don't have that type of option on consumer hardware, especially the free stuff you get from Comcast. Do you have to use the Comcast radio? Can you buy your own and plug that in instead? -- Ryan On 10/30/2014 10:21 AM, Olwe Bottorff wrote: I think we've whittled it down to there being too many devices trying to be on the system. Learned the modem will support up to 10 devices (7 realistically). Told also that we need another "access point". I'm guessing that means a whole 'nother modem/network. Is there any way around this? Signal strength boosting won't help, will it? _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And with 5-6.1GHz avoid the DFS range (>ch. 54 and < ch. 130) as those will go offline randomly for at least 30 minutes at a time. I can go into further detail but it's a lot of information to digest. Avoiding those two things will help with speed and capabilities in addition to making an active decision as to what will use what network. Also keep your radio away from anything with an electric motor - they will give off interference in the 2.4GHz and 5.0-6.1GHz range as well. -- Ryan On 10/30/2014 1:10 PM, Olwe Bottorff wrote: > Not sure what you mean by "comcast radio". I think we have 2 SSIDs, a > 5. and a 2.4 on our Cisco XB3 -- and yeah, I think *many* devices are > trying to get on the 5.0 > > --- > LB > > > On Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:35 PM, Ryan Coleman > wrote: > > > > I a real world situation never trust more than 2 or 3 devices on > an AP. > > I have three in my house - 6 phones, two computers, three wireless > set-top boxes, etc... each of the fixed set-tops are on their own > SSID (which are part of the group - not hidden or anything), the > PCs use the 5GHz SSIDs (there are 2) and the phones go on the 2.4s > that are available... we never have connection issues. But if you > try to do 1 single SSID and put them all on at once? Death by wifi. > > Even my high-end gear I sell and install (Xirrus) for my day job > has limitations of 30 active users per radio without any special > configurations out of the box. A single radio *could* support 100 > devices if you tune it right but you don't have that type of > option on consumer hardware, especially the free stuff you get > from Comcast. > > Do you have to use the Comcast radio? Can you buy your own and > plug that in instead? > > -- > Ryan > > On 10/30/2014 10:21 AM, Olwe Bottorff wrote: >> I think we've whittled it down to there being too many devices >> trying to be on the system. Learned the modem will support up to >> 10 devices (7 realistically). Told also that we need another >> "access point". I'm guessing that means a whole 'nother >> modem/network. Is there any way around this? 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URL: From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Fri Oct 31 12:56:39 2014 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:56:39 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] two gateways Message-ID: when two gateways are available, i want to monitor response times and use whichever is responding better. this raises several questions. this is presumably the sort of thing heavyweight routers do all the time? but my peon ubuntu probably needs either special software or clever configuration? an established connection is confined to its established route, or not necessarily? for worthwhile pointers i would be very grateful, tia. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: