Paul, for the life of me I can't figure out why you're being so snarky
towards Ryan (not Brian) when all he did was give you an answer to your
question.


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Brian have you read the entire post athus far? I know you are very
> advanced. The built in of hp label software does not work over wifi. This
> is a Topic about GNU/Linux support with cups and I have learned alot but
> still have fax permission errors with the print server running Cups on a
> Linux Maya machine. I have no interest in Windows.
>
> I have tried the chmods and followed David's input. I still don't know the
> octals of the 777 chomd command but that point is mute here.
>
> There is a way to Fax over VOIP apparently support is not so great at
> Brother's similar to Lexmark.
>
> I'm sorry to be a bother but at this point nothing but David search on and
> finding the link'
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1368410.html
>
> has helped alot I know this is a Linux forum and I should never have
> brought up any other operating system.
>
> At this point I think its a matter of where files are placed 'permissions
> also' on the print server's operating system in order to be read with cups
> etc  or absolutely no support with faxing under the GNU/Linux operating
> system. For the Brother model BRN-295CN printer.
>
> I'm glad you enjoy Apple so much some of us can't afford them.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: ryanjcole at me.com
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 22:39:49 -0600
>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:10 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Understood and thanks for your input on this matter as well. I am
> currently still having 'problems' with the BRN-295CN fax ability and yes it
> does show up upon entering 'http://localhost:631/printers' among my home
> network which is 'Cups' based at this time. You are correct Ryan because in
> order to setup a Windows based printer one must install software on the
> computer in order for it to talk with the router or perhaps ad-hoc in order
> for the wireless enabled printer to work'.
>
>
> That's not what I meant. Drivers are implied, protocols are specific. My
> Mac, for example (the nearest thing I run to your setup) offers LPD, IPP
> and HP JetDirect (Socket) support. That's what I mean.
>
>
> Windows 7 was an example because me being a 'noob maybe very slow also' I
> attached a friends wireless printer to their home router on a Windows 7
> computer recently and it was mind you difficult a bit.
>
>
> The print server is built into either:
> 1) the computer (if plugged in via USB, Parallel or Firewire)
> 2) the router (if plugged in via USB)
> 3) the printer (if WLAN or LAN-based)
>
> Are static ip addresses important when setting up a printer which is
> unattached physically from a print server 'the printer is alone in a room
> with no cords or cables except for the ac current'?
>
>
> That depends on the protocol involved and what your computer is looking
> for. Many printers use Apple's Bonjour and Windows' NETBIOS (I may be on
> the wrong announcer service here - there are so damn many in Windows) to
> tell the world they exist on a network. They are helpful sometimes but
> clutter traffic more often than not
>
>
> So many questions.
>
>
> So many answers.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: ryanjcole at me.com
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 20:43:43 -0600
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> If it supports the correct protocols for Linux printing, yes. However a
> wireless Windows printer may not necessarily support anything else over
> WiFi.
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2014, at 5:00 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I suppose the printer could be alone in a room unattached to only a ac
> outlet and then it could be setup to talk with the wireless router and then
> the desktop computers can communicate with the printer through the router
> somehow kindof like setting up a wireless printing in windows 7?
>
> ------------------------------
> From: pj.world at hotmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 16:37:33 -0600
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> I sure have learned some stuff today. I am going to have to work on
> understanding permissions alot.
>
> So what kindof relevance does any of the 'printers on board wireless
> dhcp/ip settings have at this point'? Is that mainly to setup the printer
> for a Windows wireless printing situation?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 15:58:37 -0600
> From: david.wagle at gmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> Because you have it configured to share that printer to the network
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 3:48 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Another question I have for you is about the 'http://localhost:631/admin/'
>  command.
>
> When I enter that command into the browser on the pc upstairs 'which is
> wireless on a DHCP networked router'. The Brother MFC-295CN printer shows
> up 'which is connected via USB cable to the pc downstairs 'which is also
> connected wirelessly to the router using DHCP. Why the heck is that anyways?
>
> Thank you for caring and your help.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 13:52:54 -0600
>
> From: david.wagle at gmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> Paul - try this:
>
> Open up a terminal
> mkdir a play space: $mkdir ~/testdir
> go there: $cd ~/testdir
>
> create a file: $touch test
>
> Look at it: $ls -l test
>
> -rw------- 1 david users 0 Mar  1 13:45 test
>
> play with chmod: $chmod 110 test
> and see what it does: $ls -l test
>
> ---x--x--- 1 david users 0 Mar  1 13:45 test
>
> try other values: $ chmod 421 test
> and see what they do: $ ls -l test
>
> -r---w---x 1 david users 0 Mar  1 13:45 test
>
> keep playing around till you understand how the number relate to
> permissions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:41 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Very Very solid advice if I do say so myself. This is a bit over my head
> but I will try to figure it out. Thanks for all your help.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 13:20:27 -0600
>
> From: david.wagle at gmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> I should add -- unless you have reason to do so, don't change the group
> ownership. Rather, limit the permissions to that group.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:09 PM, David Wagle <david.wagle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK -- so understanding the numbers on modes:
>
> There are three sets of permissions, those for the OWNER, the GROUP and
> WORLD.
>
> Each permission set is controlled by a bit string that is 4 bits long.
>
> If the first bit is a 1, then that group has read permissions.
>
> A bit string (base 2) of 0001 has a decimal value of 1 because 0x2^3 +
> 0x2^2 + 0x2^1 + 1x2^0 = 1 and corresponds to execute permission
>
> A bit string (base 2) of 0010 has a decimal value of 2 because 0x2^3 +
> 0x2^2 + 1x2^1 + 0x2^0 = 2 and corresponds to write permission
>
> A bit string (base 2) of 0100 has a decimal value of 4 because 0x2^3 +
> 1x2^2 + 0x2^1 + 0x2^0 = 4 and corresponds to read permission
>
> The fourth bit is used for special permissions like "the sticky bit" and
> is really beyond the basics.
>
> Now, because the values of 1, 2 and 4 are bit-independent, any combination
> of those values is the equivilant of 'OR'ing the bit strings.
>
> So, if we want read and write permission we want both 4 and 2. That is we
> want the bit mask to be 011. Which is 0x2^3 + 1x2^2 + 1x2^1 + 0x2^0 = 6.
> Which is what you get if you add 4 + 2.
>
> So a mask of, say 751 is RWX for Owner, R+X for Group and R for World.
>
> As for which link to follow --- without your box in front of me to
> troubleshoot, I really can't say "here's what to do."
>
> However, I'd start with setting your library to minimal permission since
> what you're getting is a permissions error. That would be at least as
> strict as 660.
>
> I would also then check that your users are in the same group as your
> print service -- which is usually 'wheel,' but not always.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:35 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> David thanks for the great link and advice.
>
> I will reset world with command?      'chown root:root brfaxfilter'
>
> I will then     'chmod go+x'
>
> ????
>
> Can you please recommend which area of the link you sent I should possibly
> follow?
>
> There are chmod 555 and 700 's etc making me confused.
>
> I will restart 'cups' using the command 'sudo service cups restart'
>
> Thanks alot for your help with this.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 00:11:02 -0600
>
> From: david.wagle at gmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> Looks like you're not the only one to run into this:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1368410.html
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:06 AM, David Wagle <david.wagle at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Also - you probably have to restart CUPS to have it re-read the library.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:03 AM, David Wagle<david.wagle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Paul - again, there's no reason for world permissions to be anything.
> Anyone authorized to use the service should be in the same group as the
> service.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 7:36 PM, paul g<pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Again I am sorry to repost BUT the following should be noted:
>
> I am using a majic jack based telephone line system 'VOIP',
>
> I have adjusted the MFC-295CN to 9600 baud rate 'fax',
>
> I do of course have a high speed ethernet connection,
>
> Your help is always appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> Paul G
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: pj.world at hotmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:16:31 -0600
>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> I just preformed a 'chmod' command and permissions NOW look like this for
> the file:
>
> located under: deb at deb-desktop /usr/lib/cups/filter $
>
> -rwxrw-rw-  1 root deb  5.2K Nov 24  2005 brfaxfilter
>
> command I entered was:
>
> sudo chmod go-x  brfaxfilter
>
> to remove execute.
>
> rebooted the machine same thing still shows up in Cups.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 17:58:10 -0600
> From: david.wagle at gmail.com
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'
>
> ls -l of /usr/lib/cups/filter/brfaxfilter
>
> Looks like you have a sticky bit set and have it 'rwx' for all. It really
> only probably needs to be 'rw-' for owner and group, and then any user who
> is allowed to use it  should be in that group. There should be no need for
> a sticky bit to be set.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:51 PM, paul g<pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have successfully installed the 'CUPS' and the appropriate drivers for a
> model 'MFC-295CN' Brother printer.
>
> The machine is running kernel: Linux deb-desktop 3.2.0-59-generic
> #90-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 7 22:47:22 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>
>
> I can print documents properly as well as scan them using xsane. Test page
> printout work great! also 'full color'.
>
> My issue is with the accompanied 'BRFAX' which I have installed also uses
> 'Cups' is as follows:
>
> When I click on 'BRFAX' inside 'Cups'
> Reports an error:
>
> The error is as follows: 'shown in Cups'
>
> Stopped - File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/brfaxfilter" has insecure permissions
> (0100777/uid=0/gid=0).
>
> deb at deb-desktop /usr/lib/cups/filter $ ls -lah
> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 5.2K Nov 24  2005 brfaxfilter
>
> dpkg -l | grep Brother
>
> ii  brmfcfaxcups
> 1.0.0-2                                 Brother MFC/FAX fax share function
> driver
> ii  brmfcfaxlpd
> 1.0.0-2                                 Brother MFC-FAX LPD driver
> ii  brother-udev-rule-type1
> 1.0.0-1                                 Brother udev rule type 1
> ii  brscan-skey
> 0.2.4-1                                 Brother Linux scanner S-KEY tool
> ii  brscan3
> 0.2.11-4                                Brother Scanner Driver
> ii  mfc295cncupswrapper
> 1.1.3-1                                 Brother CUPS Inkjet Printer
> Definitions
> ii  mfc295cnlpr
> 1.1.3-1                                 Brother lpr Inkjet Printer
> Definitions
> ii  printer-driver-ptouch
> 1.3-3ubuntu0.1                          printer driver Brother P-touch
> label printers
>
> Any ideas on where to go from here?
>
> Thank You,
>
> Paul G
>
>
>
>
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