Isn't debian pretty much the same as ubuntu, management-wise? I mean ubuntu is a debian-derivative. On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, paul g wrote: > I may have been mistaken because the laptop was 'dd' from a 64 bit image of > Debian. A seperate machine. I do know that Debian is over my head as far as > being a noob. Again I apologize for bothering anyone. I would like to learn > a bit and thanks for helping. > > Thank You. > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > From: pj.world at hotmail.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:43:04 -0600 > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will Firefox 20.0 become obselete for basic use? > > I have read from the responses so far.. Another question if I may is- how > secure can a basic noob user like me 'depending on my x5070 printer' each > day. Make the 2.6.--- kernel become more hardened? Can I install a newer > version of Firefox on the Ubuntu Lucid-Lynx 10.04 running kernel > 2.6.32-57-generic? A mechanic a bodyman can fix panels that are in a trash > can and I can do that. So I understand that alot of work goes into building > drivers for 'printers' and 'cups' is still a learning experience. I would > like your help. > > Thank You. > > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:12:01 -0600 > From: tclug at freakzilla.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will Firefox 20.0 become obselete for basic use? > > Sorry, no. That's like me saying "I'm a new driver maybe I should try > driving stick" and you suggesting I build an F-18 from scratch and then > drop off a cliff with it. > > I've been using Linux since before there were distributions, and there's a > reason I use Ubuntu. I can get it to do what I want WITHOUT wanting to > shoot myself. > > I've always thought Arch was interesting, and a bit ago decided to give it > a try. So I set up a VM, pointed it at the Arch installaiton medium and > watched it not even be able to get past it's own setup. > > You can be an extremely skilled Linux user (and UNIX admin) without ever > touching anything like Arch. It helps to know how to build your own stuff, > of course, and knowing the internals, but, again, that's like asking a > mechanic to manufacture parts themselves. > > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, David Wagle wrote: > > > Alternately, if you want to put in the work to not be a noob any longer, y > ou > > could take the plunge into an Arch distribution. It's actually not as hard > > as it might seem at first, and you will be guaranteed to end up with the > > most efficient system you can build on that box :) > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:01 PM, David Wagle <david.wagle at gmail.com> wrote > : > > The issue with performance in Ubuntu is almost entirely due to > > the window manager and has really nothing to do with the other > > software versions. You can keep the core "ubuntu" elements the > > same and upgrade the rest of the software quite easily. > > Alternately, you can try something more lightweight -- Mint 16 with > > Xfce is basically Ubunutu with a a lightweight desktop. That's what I > > run on my daughter's very ancient Macbook and it's actually quite > > zippy > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:46 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > You know I dabbled a bit with OpenSUSE. I just don't have > > the experience with windows managers. I even set-up a > > sli-taz machine. I really need nothing off the computer > > but I like the fact that the 10.04 is so well documented , > > yes I know it's old I guess it gives me a noober a sense > > of comfort somehow that I do just not get with the latest > > releases. The 'dd' command works fine for me. I even > > recently learned that in order to install Debian Wheezy > > 7.0 or whatnot I needed to partition the thumb drive for > > MS-Dos 16 not Fat32 to copy the image. Any reccomendations > > for a noob like me as far as a newer operating system on > > my laptop would be wonderful. Thank you for your time I > > wish I knew more. > > > > Thank You. > > > > > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:38:26 -0600 > > > From: tclug at freakzilla.com > > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will Firefox 20.0 become > > obselete for basic use? > > > > > > I don't know that they'd remove a printer driver... > > > > > > I've been using Ubuntu for many years, but I've never > > used Gnome, Unity or > > > KDE (I use Window Maker, as I have since 1996!). I'm > > lead to believe you > > > can get the "Classic" Gnome on the newer Ubuntus. It was > > announced very > > > recently that they're turning back from that stupid > > integrated menubar > > > thing, too. > > > > > > If you have the resources to make a bit-by-bit copy of > > your harddrive, you > > > can always try upgrading and then downgrade back if you > > don't like it. I'd > > > say try a live install on a USB thumbdrive, but that > > will for SURE be > > > slow. > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, paul g wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, and thank you for asking. I am running this older > > version of Ubuntu on > > > > a Centrino Duo Laptop. I guess because I was so > > unimpressed with the 12.04 > > > > performance on my old p4 tower. Also I have an older > > Lexmark x5070 printer > > > > that has a driver for the 10.04 Ubuntu. I don't like > > Gnome 3 maybe i'm just > > > > slow and I am not really used to KDE. Any suggestions > > would be wonderful. > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:24:28 -0600 > > > > > From: tclug at freakzilla.com > > > > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will Firefox 20.0 become > > obselete for basic use? > > > > > > > > > > Might be some small things that won't work, but in > > general you should be > > > > > fine. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, as time goes on, those small things will > > get bigger and bigger. > > > > > Still, basic HTML with basic javascript should be > > fine for a long time. It > > > > > all depends on what kind of content you want. > > > > > > > > > > May I ask why you're running such an old version of > > Ubuntu? > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, paul g wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > For a basic home/office computer user running an > > older FireFox version > > > > say > > > > > > '20.0' under Ubuntu 10.04 etc '2.6.-- kernel' will > > new web pages and > > > > webpage > > > > > > design soon require the need for a later version > > of FireFox or Opera to > > > > > > 'surf' the web? Just a curious question I am a > > noob. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >