I would like to say 'Thank You' about/for all the great help with the following post: [Will GNU/Linux work with a MAC?] It makes me think albit less likely to want to work with a Mac if the end user would prefer a nice Desktop consumer based web experience. <----While operating under Open Source Coding. [Mac Power Book G4]<----noted throughout this posting. Gentoo: Is a favorite topic of study <-----Thank you David Wagle for that. There is alot to learn out there. Thanks, Sincerly, paul g > Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:23:56 -0500 > From: david.wagle at gmail.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will GNU/Linux work with a MAC? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Be a little careful here: > > There's a real difference between being able to run on an old hardware > standard and being able to support an old software standard. > > The latter requires coding in backward compatible crap, which becomes > a support nightmare. > > The former merely requires that the current OS is compilable onto the > platform and that drivers exist for it. > > Which, for PPC architecture, is the case. > > As I mentioned, Gentoo still runs just fine on 68k's, which have been > out of production for 20 years. And let's not even get started on > things like z80s. > > Now, that does mean that older hardware aficionados are going to be > looking for source based distributions more often than not simply > because the current distributions aren't goign to be producing the > binaries due to a lack of hardware. But that's a long way from saying > that the software won't work on the hardware. > > On 04/01/2014 08:40 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > One thing to keep in mind is PPC has been out of production for a > > decade. You want a currently developed platform to work on a > > 10-year old (at the newest) architecture. > > > > Good luck. Just because the OS supports something the software > > developer of your packages needs to spend the time and money to > > develop for it as well - that's a hard sell. > > > > I don't support browsers over 5years old in my web development > > world because, well, they account for less than 1% of my customer > > base. > > > > -- Ryan Coleman > > > > > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 23:33, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com > > <mailto:pj.world at hotmail.com>> wrote: > > > >> Thanks Brian, > >> > >> I read through that information and then the comments as well > >> found in the following link you sent. > >> > >> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-7-wheezy-install-flash-player/ > >> > >> > >> > I noted comment number 10 and 12. Comment 10 states: 'there may > >> possibly be no backports for PowerPC'. Comment 12 states: You can > >> use ftp or http. The package is available only for i386 and > >> amd64.<----That is some cause for concern. > >> > >> I just spent the last few hours starting to try to understand > >> about 4 pages in the Gentoo installation manual for PowerPC > >> referenced in the following link. > >> > >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=1&chap=1 > >> > >> > >> > Perhaps it's time for me to consider Debian more seriously for this > >> Mac truly it seems a little easier to setup for someone with > >> little or no experience such as me with linux. > >> > >> Obviously the thought of getting 15 or maybe 20 years out of > >> something like Gentoo has it's reward's and is worth reading > >> more. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> > >> > >>> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:38:30 -0500 From: kc0iog at gmail.com > >>> <mailto:kc0iog at gmail.com> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>> <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will > >>> GNU/Linux work with a MAC? > >>> > >>> \On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:13 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com > >> <mailto:pj.world at hotmail.com>> wrote: > >>>> The thing that is upsetting for me is that Gnome 3 is > >>>> preinstalled > >> on Debian > >>>> Wheezy, I do not like Gnome 3. I have used Debian Wheezy a > >>>> little > >> bit with a > >>>> Sony Viao Laptop I own [it's currently installed on that pc] > >>>> as of > >> now. > >>>> Initally after installation I struggled with > >>>> Adobe-flashplayer under iceweasel. Still Adobe-flashplayer is > >>>> not installed under > >> iceweasel. Can't > >>>> login to hotmail or gmail with iceweasel. I have been told > >>>> that Google Chrome will support flash on Wheezy. I have not > >>>> tried it > >> personally yet. > >>> > >>> There are ISOs for Wheezy using the XFCE desktop. I dropped > >>> Gnome a few years ago and haven't looked back. > >>> > >>> 64 bit: > >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso > >> > >> > > 32 bit: > >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso > >> > >> > > PPC: > >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-powerpc-xfce-CD-1.iso > >> > >> > > > >>> I think you'll find XFCE simple, lightweight, and fast. Much > >>> closer to what you're used to with Gnome 2. > >>> > >>> Flash does work on Wheezy. You need to add the non-free repo, > >>> here's a good walkthrough: > >>> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-7-wheezy-install-flash-player/ > >> > >>> > > > >>> I use flash on my Wheezy box (amd64) without issues. It does > >>> seem to work better in Chrome than iceweasel. > >>> > >>> Brian _______________________________________________ TCLUG > >>> Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing > >> List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >> <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List > > - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTOsv5AAoJELWzpBXk2k3wyOEH/jQRMk4m4NS2sNWFdEGVUY/l > n5x5FqhQ5e6ftyJ6/LHzBDVoFKUgcQu3Zz40EEDcBTm96DVT91O0RsWpYQmpphFC > UZs6gsPjAZtgarqsb8o7/vfMNb67dQgk5fxHgp/cnBLrZw0dYx6LYfKEw3JLwXze > 0uR6hYiXiF7SLVBIRu4vcDiGZOpE42DRhHIOhTDzwOGllsA8GfR2vp43/R7hfAcA > uIqQfCo7DVa7sMdQsXgufea49uuggG6iIs8DeMU4V9Bl2SfWDI59MfAM8PTmNqzT > AZZZsPQwYoShmrayj47PNzuCaVShOF0Sj2s0CxxJxHe8FIJsrlyQo+sxyUy1rpc= > =iUQX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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