Can the digest mode be totally eliminated, since we have folks too
discourteous or too ignorant to properly trim those replies?

 Chuck

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> >    1. Re: Any recommendations for a good laptop? (Dan Gawarecki)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:27:36 -0600
> > From: Dan Gawarecki <dan_gawarecki at datacard.com>
> > To: "tclug-list at mn-linux.org" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Any recommendations for a good laptop?
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> > I have always enjoyed IBM/Lenovo ThinkPads (started with a "60" in
> > last century), although the T410/T420/W520 seem a little
> less "stiff"
> > in their LCD frame.  The W520 has had a problem for us in
> that their
> > "combo" USB port doesn't seem to handle v2.0 devices.  The
> "v2.0 only"
> > USB port that is provided works fine.
> >
> > I've been wishing for a W530 myself, mainly because it's
> their first
> > machine that will handle 32GB and also RAID 0 with 7200 RPM
> drives.
> > Along with nicer video graphics, this bumps the price to
> almost $2500 though.
> >
> > I've bough Sony Vaios for 2 college age children, the most
> recent was
> > last summer.  Both seemed solid enough for the price
> (around $800-900
> > if I remember correctly).
> >
> > +Dan Gawarecki+                            Desk:  (952) 988-1801
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> > the sake of profit."
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> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:53:55 -0700
> > From: ron at ron-l-j.com
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> >> Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to
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> >>    1. Re: Any recommendations for a good laptop? (Scott Raun)
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:51:39 -0600
> >> From: Scott Raun <sraun at fireopal.org>
> >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Any recommendations for a good laptop?
> >> Message-ID: <20121109145139.GA4733 at fireopal.org>
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> >> I'll concur with this - Dell has two very builds.  The consumer
> >> laptops are fragile, the business laptops are nice and durable.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:11:45PM -0600, Michael Greenly wrote:
> >>> My last few machines have been Dell Latitudes.  I've been
> happy with
> >>> them, they're built well.  My current machine is an
> >>> E6520<http://notebooks.com/2011/07/06/dell-latitude-e6520-review/>
> >>> which
> >>> fits you're description but they don't seem to be
> offering it anymore.
> >>> I
> >>> didn't look to see what replaced it.  In general I have
> not had any
> >>> problems with Linux on Dell machines as long as I pay
> some attention
> >>> and choose machines with intel networking and intel or nvidia
> >>> graphics.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Michael Moore
> <stuporglue at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > > so far the
> >>> > > only two I only remotely thought held up well were
> the Lenovos
> >>> > > and
> >>> the
> >>> > > old Sony VAIOs (not sure about the new ones, they
> looks flimsy
> >>> > > in comparison).  I like the Panasonic Toughbooks but they're
> >>> > > painfully expensive and the performance sucks.  They have a
> >>> > > sealed case which means they have to get creative to
> keep the thing from burning up.
> >>> >
> >>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that would justify
> >>> > the price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I
> >>> > vaguely remember not being impressed with them.
> >>> >
> >>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo.  I think based on your specific
> >>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it.
> >>> >
> >>> > *sigh* It's going to be a long 3 months...
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Michael
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Michael Greenly
> >>> http://logic-refinery.com
> >>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Scott Raun
> >> sraun at fireopal.org
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> > What about system 76 laptops ?
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:02:31 -0600
> > From: Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com>
> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8
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> >>>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that
> would justify
> >>>> > the price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I
> >>>> > vaguely remember not being impressed with them.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo.  I think based on your specific
> >>>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it.
> >
> >> What about system 76 laptops ?
> >
> > Good question. I forgot about System76. Does anyone have experience
> > with System76? How is their quality?
> >
> > Their Gazelle Professional has similar tech specs as the
> Thinkpad W530
> > and costs a few hundred less.
> >
> > If I would've remembered them I probably would've at least searched
> > around for reviews.
> >
> > -
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:58:56 -0600
> > From: Michael Greenly <mgreenly at gmail.com>
> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8
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> >
> > I can say there customer service is great.  Prior to my current
> > machine I purchased one from them.  It worked great and was
> built well
> > but I was really unhappy with the keyboard layout.  If you cycle
> > through the photos just under the banner
> > <https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/gazp8> you can see
> a close up
> > of the number pad on the keyboard.  I found it really
> awkward.  They
> > stood by their, no questions asked 30 day money back
> guarantee, without any hassles at all.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> >>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that
> would justify
> >> the
> >> >>> > price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I
> >> >>> > vaguely remember not being impressed with them.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo.  I think based on your specific
> >> >>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it.
> >>
> >> > What about system 76 laptops ?
> >>
> >> Good question. I forgot about System76. Does anyone have
> experience
> >> with System76? How is their quality?
> >>
> >> Their Gazelle Professional has similar tech specs as the Thinkpad
> >> W530 and costs a few hundred less.
> >>
> >> If I would've remembered them I probably would've at least
> searched
> >> around for reviews.
> >>
> >> -
> >> Michael
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Greenly
> > http://logic-refinery.com
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> The system 76 keyboards look similar to the mac style. I
> really like short key travel. I have a couple kinesis boards
> with good keys but long vertical travel length. emperor Linux
> has some really high end laptops.
> Has anyone ever used one?  If by chance anyone has some
> quality information on learning grub 2 and system D I would
> appreciate some links.
> And on an off topic but on topic note when I pass my Lpic 1 I
> am thinking of working with a few people on writing a work
> book that will prepare people for the LPIC. The books are not
> enough to pass in my opinion. I think that the door for entry
> into the Linux world is only cracked open to a few  people.
> The test is geared for people with a year of Linux admin
> experience. Getting that year of admin experience is tough
> when your completing your degree and working help desk for a
> mostly windows environment. Feedback is appreciated.
> ,Ron
>
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