On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote: > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Computers for sale (Brian Wood) > 2. Re: Computers for sale (Mark Katerberg) > 3. Re: Computers for sale (Florin Iucha) > 4. Re: Computers for sale (Yaron) > 5. Re: Computers for sale (Florin Iucha) > 6. Re: Computers for sale (Mr. B-o-B) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:46:40 -0500 > From: Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Computers for sale > Message-ID: > <CABWFOjtW8s_P_NTLso_fGPnHUcByGJsBpM_YKZgXhU366mnJUg at mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Larry Clemens: > > We sell them at our thrift store (2939 12^th Ave S., Mpls --about a > > block from the old Sears bldg., now the Midtown Exchange bldg.)for $50 + > > tax, but to folks who say the magic words., "Linux is great!", the price > > is $45 + tax, or three for $120 + tax. > > I'm not sure if Linux is great. I like it more than Windows, but > that's about all I can say. The following is a quote from James > Kanze on a C++ forum earlier this week. > > "I don't know about OS X, since I've never used it, > but it's true that Linux and Windows services are > far from robust. Neither are really what I'd take > as a model. (I wouldn't use either Linux or Windows > if I needed a reliable server.)" > > > -- > Brian Wood > Ebenezer Enterprises > http://webEbenezer.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110908/abd6bbc7/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:50:21 -0500 > From: Mark Katerberg <mark.katerberg at gmail.com> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Computers for sale > Message-ID: > <CAA6U0N2=rgnrgu1ib5PGp3FhLHM0CQp1sUyomPk7g7BpO1y25w at mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks for the helpful comment. > On Sep 8, 2011 12:46 PM, "Brian Wood" <woodbrian77 at gmail.com> wrote: > > Larry Clemens: > >> We sell them at our thrift store (2939 12^th Ave S., Mpls --about a > >> block from the old Sears bldg., now the Midtown Exchange bldg.)for $50 + > >> tax, but to folks who say the magic words., "Linux is great!", the price > >> is $45 + tax, or three for $120 + tax. > > > > I'm not sure if Linux is great. I like it more than Windows, but > > that's about all I can say. The following is a quote from James > > Kanze on a C++ forum earlier this week. > > > > "I don't know about OS X, since I've never used it, > > but it's true that Linux and Windows services are > > far from robust. Neither are really what I'd take > > as a model. (I wouldn't use either Linux or Windows > > if I needed a reliable server.)" > > > > > > -- > > Brian Wood > > Ebenezer Enterprises > > http://webEbenezer.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110908/2d4626c7/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:03:46 -0500 > From: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Computers for sale > Message-ID: <20110908180345.GI8126 at styx.iucha.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 12:46:40PM -0500, Brian Wood wrote: > > Larry Clemens: > > > We sell them at our thrift store (2939 12^th Ave S., Mpls --about a > > > block from the old Sears bldg., now the Midtown Exchange bldg.)for $50 > + > > > tax, but to folks who say the magic words., "Linux is great!", the > price > > > is $45 + tax, or three for $120 + tax. > > > > I'm not sure if Linux is great. I like it more than Windows, but > > that's about all I can say. The following is a quote from James > > Kanze on a C++ forum earlier this week. > > > > "I don't know about OS X, since I've never used it, > > but it's true that Linux and Windows services are > > far from robust. Neither are really what I'd take > > as a model. (I wouldn't use either Linux or Windows > > if I needed a reliable server.)" > > As much as I respect James Kanze's opinion on C++ (I have been > reading his posts on and off for more than a decade) I would not be > using an out-of-context negative quote to base my decisions about > server operating systems on. I am interested in what works for > him and what data about reliability is he employing when choosing a > platform and dissing another. > > Cheers, > florin > > -- > Don't question authority! They don't know either. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110908/1d449fa7/attachment-0001.pgp > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 14:19:54 -0500 (CDT) > From: Yaron <tclug at freakzilla.com> > To: TCLUG <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Computers for sale > Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1109081418520.25084 at dragon> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Florin Iucha wrote: > > > > I would not be using an out-of-context negative quote to base my > > decisions about server operating systems on. > > And defeinitely not to determine which catch-phrase would be appropriate > for receiving a discount at a store! > > > -Yaron > > -- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:01:43 -0500 > From: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Computers for sale > Message-ID: <20110908200143.GJ8126 at styx.iucha.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 02:19:54PM -0500, Yaron wrote: > >> I would not be using an out-of-context negative quote to base my > >> decisions about server operating systems on. > > > > And defeinitely not to determine which catch-phrase would be appropriate > > for receiving a discount at a store! > > Is it a catch-phrase or a secret handshake? Don't you want the > passwords to be hard to guess? 8^) > > Cheers, > florin > > -- > Don't question authority! They don't know either. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110908/0da8d5a2/attachment-0001.pgp > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:59:30 -0700 > From: "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka at gmail.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Computers for sale > Message-ID: <4E692CB2.6030302 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 9/8/2011 10:46 AM, Brian Wood cried from the depths of the abyss: > > > "I don't know about OS X, since I've never used it, > > but it's true that Linux and Windows services are > > far from robust. Neither are really what I'd take > > as a model. (I wouldn't use either Linux or Windows > > if I needed a reliable server.)" > > I find it disgraceful to associate the word ROBUST with Linux. Doesn't > he know that is a registered trademark for M$? > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4 > ***************************************** > Pessimist vs realist. Please choose realist and write an operating system that does everything automatically. then when you have it working perfectly, made version 1.0 available and are living the dream you will realize people will crack it and steal information etc... Computers are not the problem people are. I try to imagine how easy it would be to write programs and protocols that work when security is not a concern. Every time your mac updates security patches are being installed. You are paying a premium for that service. Your mac happens to be running on top of freeBSD. So why not just run freeBSD ? better signature ( there is no such thing as magic) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110909/c2cfa42a/attachment.html>