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> >    1. Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 82, Issue 2 (gk)
> >    2. Re: can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu 10.10
> >       Alternate install (Mike Miller)
> >    3. Re: can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu 10.10
> >       Alternate install (Mike Miller)
> >    4. Re: can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu 10.10
> >       Alternate install (kelly)
> >    5. Re: can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu 10.10
> >       Alternate install [SOLVED] (Mike Miller)
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> > >    1. Re: can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu 10.10
> > >       Alternate install (Mike Miller)
> > >    2. Re: can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu 10.10
> > >       Alternate install (Thomas Lunde)
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 18:40:46 -0500 (CDT)
> > > From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com>
> > > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu
> > > 	10.10 Alternate install
> > > Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1110011831350.4486 at taxa.psych.umn.edu>
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> > > 
> > > I put this off for awhile and now I'm back at it.  I find it extremely 
> > > disheartening that every set of instructions I find anywhere fails.  They 
> > > all fail and this is such a simple problem.  I just want to install Ubuntu 
> > > 10.10 with RAID 1 on a pair of identical 2.0 TB disks.  I have done it 
> > > maybe 20 times and it has never once been able to boot.
> > > 
> > > I was hoping to be able to use these instructions from B-o-B...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Mr. B-o-B wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Try to do the raid prep/setup outside of the Ubuntu installer first.
> > > >
> > > > This is how I setup software RAID 1's, and this has worked every time 
> > > > for me. I have to be honest I haven't done this on Ubuntu, but I did 
> > > > just load the latest Ubuntu live cd to check, and all the commands exist 
> > > > so this should work fine.  I have done this >30 times on Slackware, and 
> > > > a handful of times on Centos & Fedora.  I actually used a Slackware 
> > > > install disk to setup the raid's on Fedora & Centos, but this is not 
> > > > necessary.  The Ubuntu disk will work just fine.
> > > >
> > > > I personally like fdisk to create my partitions, but can use cfdisk (or 
> > > > anything else Ubuntu might have that you like).  One disk 1 (lets call 
> > > > it /dev/sda) Create at least two partitions (one for swap & one for /). 
> > > > Change the types on both partitions to "Linux RAID autodetect" type 
> > > > "FD".
> > > 
> > > I couldn't get through even that part.
> > > 
> > > The first problem is that fdisk says that I have a GUID partition and I 
> > > should use GNU parted.  In gparted I can delete partitions but not so much 
> > > that fdisk doesn't complain about the GUID partitioning.  So I need to 
> > > know what I am supposed to be doing with fdisk here.  Do I really want an 
> > > msdos partition?  How is this done?
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, the detailed B-o-B instructions didn't help me (though I am 
> > > dying to try them) because I couldn't get past this initial step.
> > > 
> > > Every other set of instructions I've found on the web fails at some point. 
> > > With at least one of them I get all the way through, it seems like it has 
> > > worked, but then I try to start the machine and it won't boot.  Next I 
> > > look for ways to fix that and I haven't been able to fix it.  So I delete 
> > > everything and start over.
> > > 
> > > After working on this for dozens of hours I am ready to pay someone to do 
> > > it for me.  Can any of you do this?  How much do you want?
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:19:16 -0500
> > > From: Thomas Lunde <tlunde at gmail.com>
> > > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] can't make partition bootable with in Ubuntu
> > > 	10.10	Alternate install
> > > Message-ID: <263B410A-21E3-4D43-8EC0-490DB6510A62 at gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> > > 
> > > Mike -
> > > 
> > > If you don't care about the current contents of either disk, here is one way to get rid of the error message about 
> GUID partitions being present. 
> > > 
> > > Boot from a live CD with just these two hard drives attached to the system. Once booted, open up a terminal window. 
> Use the df command to see if anything on either drive has been mounted. If so, they will appear as /dev/sda1 (or 
> similar).  No partitions may have been mounted, if there is just junk on the drives. If a partition has been mounted, use 
> the command sudo umount /dev/sda1 (or whatever sd partitions you saw from the df command) to remove them from the df output. 
> > > 
> > > Use the command ls /dev/sd* to verify that the system "sees" the two drives and that they are listed as sda and sdb. 
> (You'll want to adjust the letters below if they come up as something else.)
> > > 
> > > Then, issue this command:
> > > sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=1024
> > > and do it again for sdb and any partition tables on the drives will be gone. 
> > > 
> > > Now, you should be able to follow the installation instructions you've had. 
> > > 
> > > Thomas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I put this off for awhile and now I'm back at it.  I find it extremely disheartening that every set of instructions 
> I find anywhere fails.  They all fail and this is such a simple problem.  I just want to install Ubuntu 10.10 with RAID 1 
> on a pair of identical 2.0 TB disks.  I have done it maybe 20 times and it has never once been able to boot.
> > > > 
> > > > I was hoping to be able to use these instructions from B-o-B...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Mr. B-o-B wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> Try to do the raid prep/setup outside of the Ubuntu installer first.
> > > >> 
> > > >> This is how I setup software RAID 1's, and this has worked every time for me. I have to be honest I haven't done 
> this on Ubuntu, but I did just load the latest Ubuntu live cd to check, and all the commands exist so this should work 
> fine.  I have done this >30 times on Slackware, and a handful of times on Centos & Fedora.  I actually used a Slackware 
> install disk to setup the raid's on Fedora & Centos, but this is not necessary.  The Ubuntu disk will work just fine.
> > > >> 
> > > >> I personally like fdisk to create my partitions, but can use cfdisk (or anything else Ubuntu might have that you 
> like).  One disk 1 (lets call it /dev/sda) Create at least two partitions (one for swap & one for /). Change the types on 
> both partitions to "Linux RAID autodetect" type "FD".
> > > > 
> > > > I couldn't get through even that part.
> > > > 
> > > > The first problem is that fdisk says that I have a GUID partition and I should use GNU parted.  In gparted I can 
> delete partitions but not so much that fdisk doesn't complain about the GUID partitioning.  So I need to know what I am 
> supposed to be doing with fdisk here.  Do I really want an msdos partition?  How is this done?
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately, the detailed B-o-B instructions didn't help me (though I am dying to try them) because I couldn't 
> get past this initial step.
> > > > 
> > > > Every other set of instructions I've found on the web fails at some point. With at least one of them I get all the 
> way through, it seems like it has worked, but then I try to start the machine and it won't boot.  Next I look for ways to 
> fix that and I haven't been able to fix it.  So I delete everything and start over.
> > > > 
> > > > After working on this for dozens of hours I am ready to pay someone to do it for me.  Can any of you do this?  How 
> much do you want?
> > > > 
> > > > Mike
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> > 
> > Your limitation may be the Bios with how many drives it can see. ie 2tb
> > limit vs 4tb.
> GRUB 2 should always be used with the GRUB2 Utility disk available.
> GRUB2 has to have a special 7E partition BEFORE the /boot partition
> which also needs to be separate. Then you can for the sake of argument
> have just a / partition. The numbering scheme is different for GRUB2
> than GRUB1  and I have foundit best to use something like
> this.... /(hd0,1)/vmlinuz...... the same holds true with the kernel
> line. A set command will tell where the /root is located for example
> (hd0,2). That is why the Utility disk recommendation because sometimes
> the installer won't find the proper partition. The phrase "boot" always
> ends the section.
> 
> I know this is not GRUB2 here but the mapping is a declaration that is
> made not only in fstab, but it MUST be declared in your modules that
> load at boot time. In my case loop/luks and fuse are declared and
> generated by mkinitcpio each time in specific order so the proper module
> will be available when needed. In this example it was easier to use
> labels vs. UUIDS which I prefer but UUIDS are used in in fstab.
> 
> GRUB1 example for mapped devices akin to mapped for RAID
> # (0) Arch Linux
> title  Arch Linux Stock Kernel
> lock
> root   (hd0,0)
> kernel /vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/mapper/masayana
> cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:masayana ro nodma vga=791
> initrd /initramfs-linux.img
> boot
> 
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information
> #
> # <file system>        <dir>         <type>    <options>          <dump>
> <pass>
> devpts                 /dev/pts      devpts    defaults            0
> 0
> shm                    /dev/shm      tmpfs     nodev,nosuid,noexec
> 0      0
> tmpfs                  /tmp           tmpfs
> defaults,nodev,nosuid,mode=1777         0 0
> /dev/mapper/masayana  / ext2 defaults 0 1
> UUID=166a497e-6435-4ef4-8198-dc781ce73678 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime  0
> 1
> 
> 
> #/dev/sdb1: UUID="8d71988a-7103-4f6a-a119-145960e2d94e"
> TYPE="crypto_LUKS" 
> #/dev/sda1: LABEL="boot" UUID="166a497e-6435-4ef4-8198-dc781ce73678"
> TYPE="ext2" 
> #/dev/sda2: UUID="2ecb1abd-5cfc-4c44-943e-3c78c6faf967"
> TYPE="crypto_LUKS" 
> #/dev/sdc1: UUID="a47f96ae-db52-48ce-b99d-752daa4a482d"
> TYPE="crypto_LUKS" 
> #/dev/mapper/masayana: LABEL="ourhouse"
> UUID="92102d0f-5efb-49a7-8d83-2b1daf1605e6" TYPE="ext2" 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
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