After reading the articles, it seems that the summary would be that Gnome is having serious Not-Invented-Here issues (except unfathomably MSs .net ideas) while Canonical and KDE folks are trying to work with them to standardize around freedesktop.org and other API unifying efforts, including limiting features to meet a lowest common denominator with Gnome. If anything Gnome, not Canonical, comes off worse from the various exchanges. 

Kristopher Browne
http://www.google.com/profiles/kris.browne

On Mar 11, 2011, at 15:57, Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, wes smith wrote:
> 
>>> Another good read...
>>> 
>>> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/03/collaborations-demise.html
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Chuck Payne <terrorpup at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/03/10/1644208/Has-GNOME-Rejected-Canonical-Help-Shuttleworth-Responds
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Chris Fowler
>>> <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 13:15 -0500, Jerald Sheets wrote:
>>>>> Interesting ongoing developments in Mark Shuttleworth's blog.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't have a position, but not being a developer, this is all just
>>>>> fascinating to me:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/654
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://ngadventure.typepad.com/blog/deep-survival-mob-mentality.html
>> 
>> More reason to hope off the noobuntu band wagon
>> "Newly formed groups communicated much more with outsiders and also
>> performed much better than older groups, which became more insular and
>> dysfunctional over time."
> 
> 
> What is "the noobuntu band wagon?"  There are four articles linked above and I'm not sure if you are recommending all of them equally.  I want to learn more, but I'm not sure how much time I will have to spend reading to figure out what you are trying to tell us.  Can you give us a summary, or explain your position (which I think is an anti-Ubuntu position).
> 
> Mike
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