> > ntfsresize shrunk my ntfs a bit, but refused to shrink it nearly as much as i wanted. > Did you do a defrag on your NTFS filesystem before resizing? Sometimes helps to disable the pagefile in windows, reboot, and make sure windows deleted the pagefile. good ideas for next time, thanks. at this point the path of least resistance is just keep my funky embedded LV and it's content, with or without an automated losetup solution.