i did that on purpose; see it made you laugh..  aaaaay.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com>wrote:

> You speled "strictly" wrong! Ha!
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote:
> > i am srictly on this list to provide comic relief.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> oh shoot, another unhappy customer...
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I
> >>> now regret it.  Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually
> value's
> >>> older software.  VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not
> require
> >>> virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a
> >>> virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two
> versions
> >>> of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> -Dan
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:10 AM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
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> >>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>
> >>>>   1. Re: Meeting (Robert Nesius)
> >>>>   2. Re: Meeting (Ryan Coleman)
> >>>>   3. Re: Meeting (Mike Miller)
> >>>>   4. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Elvedin Trnjanin)
> >>>>   5. Re: Meeting (Erik Mitchell)
> >>>>   6. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Tony Yarusso)
> >>>>   7. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> >>>>      (Patrick "Finn" Robins)
> >>>>   8. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Chris Niesen)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600
> >>>> From: Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>        <AANLkTik86sXz=BMPDTHJ-i8whCka4CMc_uDvPvUojZkb at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the
> St.
> >>>> Cloud area.  Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to
> >>>> get
> >>>> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was
> no
> >>>> path that wasn't completely stacked up.  Took me 45 minutes to get
> >>>> across
> >>>> Edina and Bloomington.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Rob
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V
> >>>> <simmonsj at redkeep.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting
> to
> >>>> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Simmons
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>>> >
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> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 2
> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600
> >>>> From: Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Message-ID: <93A87D2B-ED53-42ED-9B61-95AEE9E133B5 at me.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert,
> >>>>
> >>>> You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot
> >>>> Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Ryan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the
> >>>> > St. Cloud area.  Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I
> tried to
> >>>> > get over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour
> there was no
> >>>> > path that wasn't completely stacked up.  Took me 45 minutes to get
> across
> >>>> > Edina and Bloomington.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -Rob
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <
> simmonsj at redkeep.com>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting
> to
> >>>> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Simmons
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
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> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 3
> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST)
> >>>> From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com <mbmiller%2Bl at gmail.com>>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101210100450.31009 at taxa.psych.umn.edu>
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> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot
> >>>> > Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road.  Take the West
> >>>> river
> >>>> road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East.
>  From
> >>>> there you can get on Rt. 5.  You might only to 25 mph, but you won't
> hit
> >>>> any lights.  I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush
> hour
> >>>> and it works great.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 4
> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600
> >>>> From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Cc: Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> >>>> Message-ID: <4D39310B.1000801 at umn.edu>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
> >>>> > Tclug,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd
> >>>> > start here before having to make another user account in another
> >>>> > system somewhere...
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm
> >>>> > looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i
> on
> >>>> > it.
> >>>> ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to
> >>>> spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the
> free
> >>>> version which is only limited to ESXi.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > System Specs are as follows:
> >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors
> >>>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives.
> >>>> > 4gb's of ram
> >>>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller.
> >>>> Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be
> >>>> supported
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This is the faster of my two servers.  I also have a HP Netserver
> >>>> > LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster
> >>>> > server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or
> 2850's
> >>>> > to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v.
> >>>> You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead
> >>>> of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware
> >>>> > ESX or ESXi product, please let me know.
> >>>> No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into
> >>>> ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for
> it.
> >>>> Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or
> >>>> Linux as it will more likely support your hardware.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -
> >>>> > Dan
> >>>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com <mailto:dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
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> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 5
> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600
> >>>> From: Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>        <AANLkTimmr+fH8vPKnC5iWCFTGkACOrDRW=Cm0f_bprfC at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert,
> >>>> The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak
> >>>> to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south
> >>>> from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would
> >>>> think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville
> >>>> and SLP.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Erik
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the
> >>>> > St.
> >>>> > Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried
> to
> >>>> > get
> >>>> > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there
> was
> >>>> > no
> >>>> > path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get
> >>>> > across
> >>>> > Edina and Bloomington.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -Rob
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <
> simmonsj at redkeep.com>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting
> >>>> >> to
> >>>> >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St.
> Paul.
> >>>> >> Simmons
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>> >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer
> >>>> erik.mitchell at gmail.com
> >>>> erik at ekmitchell.com
> >>>> http://ekmitchell.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 6
> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600
> >>>> From: Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>        <AANLkTi=k+_Bg1ZfTaR=nBu_nzTPTBZ9r4cmzR+ZizOg=@mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > System Specs are as follows:
> >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors
> >>>>
> >>>> Running a virtualization system on a processor without the
> >>>> virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or
> >>>> just woefully inadequate, depending on the type.  I'm not sure which
> >>>> type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work
> >>>> *well*, if at all.
> >>>>
> >>>>  - Tony
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 7
> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600
> >>>> From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <13.finn at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>        <AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe+6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe%2B6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com>
> >
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT
> extensions
> >>>> is
> >>>> a big performance hit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Patrick "Finn" Robins
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
> >>>> matter
> >>>> and those who matter don't mind.
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> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 8
> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600
> >>>> From: Chris Niesen <chris.niesen at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>        <AANLkTimxe-Bbi0Gat1U6zw4Vg=ps4t=snYsA7qGMWiMi at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>
> >>>> ESXi requires a 64 bit processor.  Don't waste your time.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Tclug,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd
> >>>> > start
> >>>> > here before having to make another user account in another system
> >>>> > somewhere...
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm
> >>>> > looking to
> >>>> > find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > System Specs are as follows:
> >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors
> >>>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives.
> >>>> > 4gb's of ram
> >>>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This is the faster of my two servers.  I also have a HP Netserver
> >>>> > LP2000R
> >>>> > running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server
> until
> >>>> > I'm
> >>>> > able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run
> Hypervisor
> >>>> > 4 or
> >>>> > have a enviroment to work with hyper-v.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware
> >>>> > ESX or
> >>>> > ESXi product, please let me know.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -
> >>>> > Dan
> >>>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
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> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
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> >>>> ******************************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer
> erik.mitchell at gmail.com
> erik at ekmitchell.com
> http://ekmitchell.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
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