Seeing as this model worked fairly well when John tried it, if anyone is interested in any of this stuff, let me know! - A P4 desktop with 1gb ram (or 1.5?). The motherboard is fried, though. - A Compaq desktop from 2001 or so. I don't remember if it turns on or not. - An old P2 tower from the middle 90's - A few hard drives varying in size from 10gb to 40gb. - Tons of old Apple mice. - Tons of sound cards (with serial midi ports!) - A tape drive and plenty of tapes For scrap, I also have a dead LCD monitor (the screen itself is still functional last time I checked), an old power supply, a webcam with no drivers available, and a bunch of random cables. Let me know if you want any more info! -- Max Shinn max at BernsteinForPresident.com www.BernsteinForPresident.com "To have the choice between proprietary software packages, is being able to choose your master. Freedom means not having a master. And in the area of computing, freedom means not using proprietary software." -Richard Stallman