From rhubarbpie at poetworld.net Tue May 4 16:06:11 2010 From: rhubarbpie at poetworld.net (rhubarbpie at poetworld.net) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 16:06:11 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Partition Image vs FSArchiver Message-ID: <4BE08C43.8000104@poetworld.net> I've used Partition Image for years but am interested in FSArchiver. I see several advantages, but are there any disadvantages? I realize it's command line only, which is fine for me. From james007wjs at gmail.com Tue May 4 17:22:54 2010 From: james007wjs at gmail.com (wes smith) Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:22:54 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues Message-ID: I aquired an hp elitebook 6930p with a intel 5300 wireless card. Pulled the cmos battery to attempt to reset the bios password, but its written to the bios. I had put windows 7 on there and it asked me for my wireless pass during install. Installed updates and rebooted and now wifi is broken. Says its turned off, in both win7 and linux. The little wifi touch button doesnt change colors, but the other media buttons work for the most part. Thats about the only place i see to turn the wifi on and off. I tried messy with the settings and still no wifi. Tried installing both windows 7 and 9.10 again, still broken. I did put an older intel 5100 in there and it said it wasnt compatible. I even tried moving the card to the other mini pci slot, no joy doesnt seem to recongize that extra slot. I might try and put the 5300 in my asus laptop with a live cd and see if the card is dead. Im sorta stuck on where to go from here -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100504/c83f8168/attachment.htm From iipreca at hotmail.com Wed May 5 17:34:10 2010 From: iipreca at hotmail.com (G J) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:34:10 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you check the bios for a switch? i've seen wifi enable/disable in bios before. Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:22:54 -0500 From: james007wjs at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues I aquired an hp elitebook 6930p with a intel 5300 wireless card. Pulled the cmos battery to attempt to reset the bios password, but its written to the bios. I had put windows 7 on there and it asked me for my wireless pass during install. Installed updates and rebooted and now wifi is broken. Says its turned off, in both win7 and linux. The little wifi touch button doesnt change colors, but the other media buttons work for the most part. Thats about the only place i see to turn the wifi on and off. I tried messy with the settings and still no wifi. Tried installing both windows 7 and 9.10 again, still broken. I did put an older intel 5100 in there and it said it wasnt compatible. I even tried moving the card to the other mini pci slot, no joy doesnt seem to recongize that extra slot. I might try and put the 5300 in my asus laptop with a live cd and see if the card is dead. Im sorta stuck on where to go from here _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100505/cb6ab368/attachment.htm From mfunger at arbita.net Thu May 6 09:33:25 2010 From: mfunger at arbita.net (Matthew F. Unger) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 09:33:25 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: BIOS is password locked. I did a double-check and it doesn't look like there's isn't a jumper on the MOBO to reset the password. Shenanigans are hereby officially called on HP for having to call into tech support with proof of ownership. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there's something in the BIOS that is locking the wireless card out. Sorry, that's all I got. Cheers, M From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of G J Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:34 PM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues Did you check the bios for a switch? i've seen wifi enable/disable in bios before. ________________________________ Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:22:54 -0500 From: james007wjs at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues I aquired an hp elitebook 6930p with a intel 5300 wireless card. Pulled the cmos battery to attempt to reset the bios password, but its written to the bios. I had put windows 7 on there and it asked me for my wireless pass during install. Installed updates and rebooted and now wifi is broken. Says its turned off, in both win7 and linux. The little wifi touch button doesnt change colors, but the other media buttons work for the most part. Thats about the only place i see to turn the wifi on and off. I tried messy with the settings and still no wifi. Tried installing both windows 7 and 9.10 again, still broken. I did put an older intel 5100 in there and it said it wasnt compatible. I even tried moving the card to the other mini pci slot, no joy doesnt seem to recongize that extra slot. I might try and put the 5300 in my asus laptop with a live cd and see if the card is dead. Im sorta stuck on where to go from here ________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100506/78fa1635/attachment.htm From john.meier at gmail.com Thu May 6 10:05:47 2010 From: john.meier at gmail.com (John Meier) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:05:47 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Matthew F. Unger wrote: > BIOS is password locked. > > > Have you tried the "backdoor" bios passwords? A quick googling hit on a promising site : http://rahulhackingarticles.wetpaint.com/page/BIOS+Backdoor+passwords+updated -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100506/68588c3e/attachment.htm From jucziz6 at gmail.com Thu May 6 10:06:58 2010 From: jucziz6 at gmail.com (James) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 10:06:58 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Most newer laptops store the BIOS password in eeprom, this memory stays even when the battery is removed. The only option for getting into the BIOS is send the unit back to the manufacture or pay a company to have the password cracked. The following company does this type of work for a fee. www.laptoprebirth.com.. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Matthew F. Unger wrote: > BIOS is password locked. > > I did a double-check and it doesn?t look like there?s isn?t a jumper on the > MOBO to reset the password. Shenanigans are hereby officially called on HP > for having to call into tech support with proof of ownership. > > I?m going to go out on a limb and say that there?s something in the BIOS > that is locking the wireless card out. Sorry, that?s all I got. > > > > Cheers, > > > > M > > > > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of G J > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:34 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues > > > > Did you check the bios for a switch? i've seen wifi enable/disable in bios > before. > > ________________________________ > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:22:54 -0500 > From: james007wjs at gmail.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [tclug-list] Wireless N card issues > > I aquired an hp elitebook 6930p with a intel 5300 wireless card. Pulled the > cmos battery to attempt to reset the bios password, but its written to the > bios. I had put windows 7 on there and it asked me for my wireless pass > during install. Installed updates and rebooted and now wifi is broken. Says > its turned off, in both win7 and linux. The little wifi touch button doesnt > change colors, but the other media buttons work for the most part. Thats > about the only place i see to turn the wifi on and off. I tried messy with > the settings and still no wifi. Tried installing both windows 7 and 9.10 > again, still broken. I did put an older intel 5100 in there and it said it > wasnt compatible. I even tried moving the card to the other mini pci slot, > no joy doesnt seem to recongize that extra slot. I might try and put the > 5300 in my asus laptop with a live cd and see if the card is dead. Im sorta > stuck on where to go from here > > ________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > Get started. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > From james007wjs at gmail.com Thu May 6 17:09:50 2010 From: james007wjs at gmail.com (wes smith) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 17:09:50 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the only switch i can see is the touch wifi button and thats the only one that does blink when i touch it. The speakers and other media buttons blink. I could try and check the wiring on the wifi button. I took a quick look at the bios flasher from hp under immunity debugger to see how/where it verified the pass. It would be nice if i could just forcefully overwrite the bios with rouge data and without verifying the pass. Ive got a little bit of assembly knowledge but Im ready to conquer this laptop. If I break it ill just salvage the workable parts Had tried cmospwd, didnt seem like it worked just gave me some random unicode dump. I will post the data output later tonight From tclug1 at greatlakedata.com Tue May 11 10:49:55 2010 From: tclug1 at greatlakedata.com (greg wm) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 10:49:55 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ntfsresize...unbootable Message-ID: i grabbed a handy xubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386 cd, started the install only to reduce ntfs from 190gb to 160gb, installed xp.pro in the resulting 28gb free space, which boots fine, but on next boot of the original now 160gb xp.home-edition it ran a fsck sort of operation during bootup, and on next boot is now unbootable, complaining system32\hal.dll is missing or corrupt. google wisdom mostly recommends running repair mode from the xp cd, well my xp cd offers to install but doesn't offer any repair option, anyway i found testdisk-6.12 which probably did as much as fixboot would have, checked that the partition boot sector matched the backup, regenerated it from scratch anyway, boot.ini is fine, substituting a hal.dll from xp.pro doesn't help, possibly a new hal.dll from xp.home-edition might work but my bet is that ntfsresize didn't do the right thing with a disk that i'm guessing has a guid partition table. any help or ideas anyone? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100511/827dfbd1/attachment.htm From chrome at real-time.com Tue May 11 11:11:37 2010 From: chrome at real-time.com (Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 11:11:37 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients Message-ID: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> Does anyone have any recommendations for MySQL administration tools that run locally on a Windows or Mac machine and connect via TCP/IP to the MySQL server to be administrated? Preferably something even a web designer can use. ;) I'm looking for an alternative to phpmyadmin. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com From trnja001 at umn.edu Tue May 11 11:18:30 2010 From: trnja001 at umn.edu (Elvedin Trnjanin) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 11:18:30 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> Message-ID: <4BE98356.3090909@umn.edu> On 5/11/2010 11:11 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for MySQL administration tools that run > locally on a Windows or Mac machine and connect via TCP/IP to the MySQL > server to be administrated? > > Preferably something even a web designer can use. ;) > > I'm looking for an alternative to phpmyadmin. > > http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/5.2.html It still has a habit of occasionally not working on Tuesdays and every other day that ends with the letter 'y'. From erikerik at gmail.com Tue May 11 11:20:12 2010 From: erikerik at gmail.com (Erik Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 11:20:12 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for MySQL administration tools that run > locally on a Windows or Mac machine and connect via TCP/IP to the MySQL > server to be administrated? > > Preferably something even a web designer can use. ;) I use Sequel Pro from OSX from time to time, and find it quite nice. http://www.sequelpro.com/ If that's not to your liking, I believe MySQL Administrator has OSX packages as well, though I haven't tried them. -Erik From sloncho at gmail.com Tue May 11 11:22:34 2010 From: sloncho at gmail.com (Sunny) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 11:22:34 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for MySQL administration tools that run > locally on a Windows or Mac machine and connect via TCP/IP to the MySQL > server to be administrated? > > Preferably something even a web designer can use. ;) > > I'm looking for an alternative to phpmyadmin. mysql-admin, mysql-query-browser, all are now combined in mysql-workbench They have windows build. http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/5.0.html -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. From daniel.armbrust.list at gmail.com Tue May 11 13:06:53 2010 From: daniel.armbrust.list at gmail.com (Dan Armbrust) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:06:53 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> Message-ID: I've used a nice one in the past (I think, anyway it appears the company has changed names since I last used it) - http://www.navicat.com/en/products/navicat_mysql/mysql_detail_win.html They have a free "lite" version (with caveats) - but if I recall, the tool itself is quite nice. Dan On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for MySQL administration tools that run > locally on a Windows or Mac machine and connect via TCP/IP to the MySQL > server to be administrated? > > Preferably something even a web designer can use. ;) > > I'm looking for an alternative to phpmyadmin. > > -- > Carl Soderstrom > Systems Administrator > Real-Time Enterprises > www.real-time.com > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From mkebob1134 at netscape.net Tue May 11 14:17:25 2010 From: mkebob1134 at netscape.net (Mr. B-o-B) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:17:25 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> Message-ID: <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> On 5/11/2010 11:11 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for MySQL administration tools that run > locally on a Windows or Mac machine and connect via TCP/IP to the MySQL > server to be administrated? > > Preferably something even a web designer can use. ;) > > I'm looking for an alternative to phpmyadmin. > Here's a decent one I use at work. http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/ Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. Another on I like is RazorSQL http://www.razorsql.com/ It's not free, but it's good! Good Luck! Bob From ryanjcole at me.com Tue May 11 14:23:07 2010 From: ryanjcole at me.com (Ryan Coleman) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:23:07 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> Message-ID: > > Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. Nice pun! :) On May 11, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Mr. B-o-B wrote: > On 5/11/2010 11:11 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: >> Does anyone have any recommendations for MySQL administration tools that run >> locally on a Windows or Mac machine and connect via TCP/IP to the MySQL >> server to be administrated? >> >> Preferably something even a web designer can use. ;) >> >> I'm looking for an alternative to phpmyadmin. >> > > Here's a decent one I use at work. > > http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/ > > Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. > > Another on I like is RazorSQL > > http://www.razorsql.com/ > > It's not free, but it's good! > > Good Luck! > > Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Tue May 11 14:43:22 2010 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 May 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. > > Nice pun! :) MySQL isn't under the Sun anymore. Has anyone else noticed that Oracle backwards is "el caro"?: http://translate.google.com/#es|en|el%20caro Mike From ryanjcole at me.com Tue May 11 15:21:57 2010 From: ryanjcole at me.com (Ryan Coleman) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:21:57 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> Message-ID: Yes, but isn't Java part of Sun which is now Oracle? On May 11, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >>> Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. >> >> Nice pun! :) > > > MySQL isn't under the Sun anymore. > > Has anyone else noticed that Oracle backwards is "el caro"?: > > http://translate.google.com/#es|en|el%20caro > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From mkebob1134 at netscape.net Tue May 11 15:39:34 2010 From: mkebob1134 at netscape.net (Mr. B-o-B) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:39:34 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] mysql desktop admin clients In-Reply-To: References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> Message-ID: <4BE9C086.6070500@netscape.net> On 5/11/2010 2:23 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >> Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. > > Nice pun! :) > Thanks!!! From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Tue May 11 15:49:17 2010 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:49:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [tclug-list] Sun and Oracle and MySQL In-Reply-To: References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 May 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Yes, but isn't Java part of Sun which is now Oracle? I thought Sun was gone, swallowed whole by Oracle, but it turns out that Sun has become a subsidiary of Oracle. Thus Sun still exists and Java seems to be "under the Sun," but I'm not sure if MySQL is part of the Sun subsidiary or its own subsidiary. http://www.sun.com/ http://www.oracle.com/us/products/mysql/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL Mike > On May 11, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 May 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >>>> Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. >>> >>> Nice pun! :) >> >> >> MySQL isn't under the Sun anymore. >> >> Has anyone else noticed that Oracle backwards is "el caro"?: >> >> http://translate.google.com/#es|en|el%20caro >> >> Mike From adam.morris at redstargaming.net Tue May 11 20:52:23 2010 From: adam.morris at redstargaming.net (Adam Morris) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 20:52:23 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ntfsresize...unbootable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BEA09D7.3090300@redstargaming.net> Did you try "bootcfg /rebuild"? I believe this actually rewrites the MBR stuff Windows is looking for and it may fix your issue. I know I've had similar issues in the past (caused by ntfsresize no less, great tool :p ) but generally I just would run a repair install after the setup process detected that I have that installation. -Adam On 05/11/2010 10:49 AM, greg wm wrote: > i grabbed a handy xubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386 cd, started the install > only to reduce ntfs from 190gb to 160gb, installed xp.pro > in the resulting 28gb free space, which boots fine, > but on next boot of the original now 160gb xp.home-edition it ran a > fsck sort of operation during bootup, and on next boot is now > unbootable, complaining system32\hal.dll is missing or corrupt. > google wisdom mostly recommends running repair mode from the xp cd, > well my xp cd offers to install but doesn't offer any repair option, > anyway i found testdisk-6.12 which probably did as much as fixboot > would have, checked that the partition boot sector matched the backup, > regenerated it from scratch anyway, boot.ini is fine, substituting a > hal.dll from xp.pro doesn't help, possibly a new > hal.dll from xp.home-edition might work but my bet is that ntfsresize > didn't do the right thing with a disk that i'm guessing has a guid > partition table. any help or ideas anyone? > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From josh at joshwelch.com Tue May 11 22:18:03 2010 From: josh at joshwelch.com (Josh Welch) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 22:18:03 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Sun and Oracle and MySQL In-Reply-To: References: <20100511111137.D32342@real-time.com> <4BE9AD45.3010507@netscape.net> Message-ID: According to this piece of fluff from IDC and hosted on Oracle's site MySQL will become "part of the open source business unit" additionally "MySQL will have an independent sales force and an independent development organization, both of which Oracle is retaining from Sun." So it kind of sounds like it will be an independent operating unit underneath another business unit. However, having worked for Oracle for a time I can vouch as to the rather byzantine organization of the company and I'm not sure if it matters much how they're classified because they'll be treated however Oracle wants. http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/analystreports/corporate/idc-mysql-065208.pdf Josh On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Mike Miller wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> Yes, but isn't Java part of Sun which is now Oracle? > > I thought Sun was gone, swallowed whole by Oracle, but it turns out that > Sun has become a subsidiary of Oracle. ?Thus Sun still exists and Java > seems to be "under the Sun," but I'm not sure if MySQL is part of the Sun > subsidiary or its own subsidiary. > > http://www.sun.com/ > http://www.oracle.com/us/products/mysql/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL > > Mike > > >> On May 11, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Mike Miller wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 11 May 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> >>>>> Runs on Java, so it will work on any OS under the sun. >>>> >>>> Nice pun! :) >>> >>> >>> MySQL isn't under the Sun anymore. >>> >>> Has anyone else noticed that Oracle backwards is "el caro"?: >>> >>> http://translate.google.com/#es|en|el%20caro >>> >>> Mike > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From marc at e-skinner.net Sun May 16 12:08:46 2010 From: marc at e-skinner.net (Marc Skinner) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 12:08:46 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Dell P3 computers for sale Message-ID: <4BF0269E.60305@e-skinner.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for the email blast - it doesn't seem that the classifieds link at http://www.mn-linux.org/ works. I have quantity 8 Dell Optiplex 110's tower desktops. All working, all with 20-40gb hd, all with 512mb of ram, all with cd-roms. Most with 2 intel network cards 10/100. These are P3's, 500mhz-600mhz range. Looking for $20ish for each one - or best offer. Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvwJp4ACgkQvE9HrEfeE4dRegCfepHMwn/fd8Xs2vGu4UnWULv9 0xgAoOijLCMEakfmqoYJRFRRFGCvStXw =Xd69 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ubusum at ymail.com Sun May 16 15:49:48 2010 From: ubusum at ymail.com (Ubu Sumner) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tclug-list] Dell Message-ID: <217646.19822.qm@web59401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Hi Marc, I'm looking for a computer to run Linux so I needn't dual boot my laptop. I'm just a boarderline/new/sometime user of Linux struggling to learn Ubuntu. I've found my laptop overheats in Linux when I rip CDs (but not in Windows) and I don't want to harm it. So I've been thinking about getting a used box. I think CD ripping might be a good way to ease into Linux. Do you think the P3 would have enough speed to rip CDs in Linux? I find my mobile 1.6GHz pentium servicable but slow. What do you think? Thanks for listing your boxes, Bruce Roseville ------- Twenty-Fifth MorningBy curbing his tongue, a man gains possession of his mind. The fool babbles, gossips, argues, and bandies words. He glories in the fact that he has had the last word, and has silenced his opponent. He exults in his own folly, is ever on the defensive, and wastes his energies in unprofitable channels. He is like a gardener who continues to dig and plant in unproductive soil. The wise man avoids idle words, gossips, vain argument, and self-defense. He is content to appear defeated; rejoices when he is defeated; knowing that, having found and removed another error in himself, he has thereby become wiser. Blessed is he who does not strive for the last word.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100516/e835b568/attachment.htm From mkebob1134 at netscape.net Sun May 16 18:46:52 2010 From: mkebob1134 at netscape.net (Mr. B-o-B) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:46:52 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: [tclug-list] Dell In-Reply-To: <217646.19822.qm@web59401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <217646.19822.qm@web59401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ubu Sumner cried from the depths of the abyss... > Do you think the P3 would have enough speed to rip CDs in Linux? I find my mobile 1.6GHz pentium servicable but slow. What do you think? > To be honest your 1.6Ghz is overkill for making legal backups of CD's. The reason you mobile computing device seems slow is it probably has a slow cd/dvd-rom, and a slow harddrive. Most do, and this is common on laptops. Any of those Dell P3's would be fine. Kick down twenty bucks, and replace the cd/dvd with something faster. I have a 400Mhz AMD K6-II w/ 512M of ram that I have used for 10 years to mainly make legal backups of cd's. It has 48x cdrom, and a decent harddisk. It can probably rip 2 - 3 cd's by the time you laptop finishes one. I only say this to stress my point that CPU isn't a huge factor. Good Luck! Mr. B-o-B From Craig.A.Smith at honeywell.com Mon May 17 08:01:28 2010 From: Craig.A.Smith at honeywell.com (Smith, Craig A) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:01:28 -0400 Subject: [tclug-list] Dell P3 computers for sale In-Reply-To: <4BF0269E.60305@e-skinner.net> References: <4BF0269E.60305@e-skinner.net> Message-ID: <352399F8DB39E14FBB4B648897CA32E60580086E@DE08EV802.global.ds.honeywell.com> Marc, Are any of these still available? I could use a couple for a project I'm working. -----Original Message----- From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Marc Skinner Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:09 To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [tclug-list] Dell P3 computers for sale -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for the email blast - it doesn't seem that the classifieds link at http://www.mn-linux.org/ works. I have quantity 8 Dell Optiplex 110's tower desktops. All working, all with 20-40gb hd, all with 512mb of ram, all with cd-roms. Most with 2 intel network cards 10/100. These are P3's, 500mhz-600mhz range. Looking for $20ish for each one - or best offer. Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvwJp4ACgkQvE9HrEfeE4dRegCfepHMwn/fd8Xs2vGu4UnWULv9 0xgAoOijLCMEakfmqoYJRFRRFGCvStXw =Xd69 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From admin at lctn.org Mon May 17 09:55:07 2010 From: admin at lctn.org (Raymond Norton) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:55:07 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] editing ldif file Message-ID: <4BF158CB.1090807@lctn.org> I exported my Thunderbird address book, so I can import the ldif file into openldap. I need to replace the first dn line: From: dn: cn=TCLUG List,mail=tclug-list at mn-linux.org To: dn: cn=TCLUG List, ou=addressbook, dc=lctn, dc=org Thunderbird has a php script that is supposed to change the base dn, but I am not getting it to work. Is there another easy way to get the job done? Raymond From marc at e-skinner.net Mon May 17 11:23:37 2010 From: marc at e-skinner.net (Marc Skinner) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:23:37 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Dell In-Reply-To: <217646.19822.qm@web59401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <217646.19822.qm@web59401.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BF16D89.5000003@e-skinner.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I guess it all depends on what you are expecting. I have an old box I use for ripping, I have don't really care how fast it is as I don't do a ton of ripping every day, just when I purchase a new CD. So, my old computer rips and encodes a CD in about 15 minutes. The old computer is a P3 with a standard 20x CD. I also have a power house workstation with a 48x CD and a quad-core in it. It takes about 3-5 minutes to rip a CD. So I guess it all depends on what your expectation is and how much ripping you will be doing on a daily basis. Thanks. On 05/16/2010 03:49 PM, Ubu Sumner wrote: > Hi Marc, > > I'm looking for a computer to run Linux so I needn't dual boot my > laptop. I'm just a boarderline/new/sometime user of Linux struggling to > learn Ubuntu. > > I've found my laptop overheats in Linux when I rip CDs (but not in > Windows) and I don't want to harm it. So I've been thinking about > getting a used box. I think CD ripping might be a good way to ease into > Linux. > > Do you think the P3 would have enough speed to rip CDs in Linux? I find > my mobile 1.6GHz pentium servicable but slow. What do you think? > > Thanks for listing your boxes, > > Bruce > Roseville > > > > > ------- > > > Twenty-Fifth Morning > > By curbing his tongue, a man gains > possession of his mind. > > The fool babbles, gossips, argues, > and bandies words. He glories in the fact > that he has had the last word, and has > silenced his opponent. He exults in his > own folly, is ever on the defensive, and > wastes his energies in unprofitable channels. > He is like a gardener who continues to dig > and plant in unproductive soil. > > The wise man avoids idle words, gossips, > vain argument, and self-defense. He is > content to appear defeated; rejoices when > he is defeated; knowing that, having found > and removed another error in himself, he > has thereby become wiser. > > Blessed is he who does not strive for > the last word. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvxbYkACgkQvE9HrEfeE4cwgwCghHZtnbwzyR0tDhHqVYSrM88b Jr4AoNH/r9OQ57dOsro1GJEtYoR299iz =l9pH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jpschewe at mtu.net Mon May 17 15:18:52 2010 From: jpschewe at mtu.net (Jon Schewe) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:18:52 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? Message-ID: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> I'm trying to capture some large files from my house (on Comcast) to a server out of state (not on Comcast). I'm copying the files using ssh and a non-standard port.Things are fine for files of a couple megabytes, but files over say 10 megabytes stall out part way through. One night I got 50MB uploaded all night! So today I started up tcpdump on both ends and captured the traffic. I noticed an interesting thing in wireshark when the connection stalled out. I got a "TCP Previous segment lost" message on the server side and then started getting "TCP Dup ACK" on both ends. The server has a SonicWall firewall in front of it and is virtualized with vmware. My house is using dd-wrt on a Linksys router as my connection. Is this Comcast doing it's filtering for our protection or is this just something misbehaving on either firewall? -- Jon Schewe | http://mtu.net/~jpschewe If you see an attachment named signature.asc, this is my digital signature. See http://www.gnupg.org for more information. From andyzib at gmail.com Mon May 17 18:07:37 2010 From: andyzib at gmail.com (Andrew S. Zbikowski) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:07:37 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: When I last tried DD-WRT I saw some flaky behavior. Switched to Tomato firmware and eventually replaced the Linksys router with an Apple AirPort Extreme. DD-WRT just seemed to get weird with long transfers, but I didn't look into it too deeply. Tomato seemed to work better. Only went to the AirPort Extreme as it was time to upgrade to 802.11N and I needed a USB print server. -- Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us IT Outhouse Blog Thing | http://www.itouthouse.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DD-WRT just seemed to get weird with long transfers, but I didn't look into it too deeply. Tomato seemed to work better. Only went to the AirPort Extreme as it was time to upgrade to 802.11N and I needed a USB print server. -- Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us IT Outhouse Blog Thing | http://www.itouthouse.com "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100517/f96345a6/attachment.htm From auditodd at comcast.net Mon May 17 19:41:14 2010 From: auditodd at comcast.net (auditodd at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 00:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: <1900712982.26040351274143274824.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I'm betting on Comcast being evil..... My connection was being throttled to 2MB down. While I was out of town, my step-son had problems and disconnected the firewall and connected his laptop directly to the cable modem and was able to get 10MB down. So I looked on the Smoothwall forums for a way to spoof the MAC address. I then proceeded to create 12 fictional MAC addresses and I comment out all but one at a time. Then I just reboot the Smoothwall and the cable modem and my download speed is back to 10MB. So far it's been 40 days with no decrease in speed. They'll probably mess with me the next time I want to use bit-torrent to download some more ISO images.... ---------- Todd Young ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Schewe" To: "TCLUG List" Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:18:52 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? I'm trying to capture some large files from my house (on Comcast) to a server out of state (not on Comcast). I'm copying the files using ssh and a non-standard port.Things are fine for files of a couple megabytes, but files over say 10 megabytes stall out part way through. One night I got 50MB uploaded all night! So today I started up tcpdump on both ends and captured the traffic. I noticed an interesting thing in wireshark when the connection stalled out. I got a "TCP Previous segment lost" message on the server side and then started getting "TCP Dup ACK" on both ends. The server has a SonicWall firewall in front of it and is virtualized with vmware. My house is using dd-wrt on a Linksys router as my connection. Is this Comcast doing it's filtering for our protection or is this just something misbehaving on either firewall? -- Jon Schewe | http://mtu.net/~jpschewe If you see an attachment named signature.asc, this is my digital signature. See http://www.gnupg.org for more information. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From jpschewe at mtu.net Mon May 17 20:42:07 2010 From: jpschewe at mtu.net (Jon Schewe) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:42:07 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: <1900712982.26040351274143274824.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1900712982.26040351274143274824.JavaMail.root@sz0147a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BF1F06F.5020606@mtu.net> So switching MAC addresses fixed it for you? That wouldn't be too hard for me to try. On 05/17/2010 07:41 PM, auditodd at comcast.net wrote: > I'm betting on Comcast being evil..... > > My connection was being throttled to 2MB down. > While I was out of town, my step-son had problems and disconnected the firewall and connected his laptop directly to the cable modem and was able to get 10MB down. > > So I looked on the Smoothwall forums for a way to spoof the MAC address. > I then proceeded to create 12 fictional MAC addresses and I comment out all but one at a time. > Then I just reboot the Smoothwall and the cable modem and my download speed is back to 10MB. > So far it's been 40 days with no decrease in speed. > They'll probably mess with me the next time I want to use bit-torrent to download some more ISO images.... > > ---------- > Todd Young > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Schewe" > To: "TCLUG List" > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:18:52 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? > > I'm trying to capture some large files from my house (on Comcast) to a > server out of state (not on Comcast). I'm copying the files using ssh > and a non-standard port.Things are fine for files of a couple megabytes, > but files over say 10 megabytes stall out part way through. One night I > got 50MB uploaded all night! So today I started up tcpdump on both ends > and captured the traffic. I noticed an interesting thing in wireshark > when the connection stalled out. I got a "TCP Previous segment lost" > message on the server side and then started getting "TCP Dup ACK" on > both ends. The server has a SonicWall firewall in front of it and is > virtualized with vmware. My house is using dd-wrt on a Linksys router as > my connection. Is this Comcast doing it's filtering for our protection > or is this just something misbehaving on either firewall? > > > From jpschewe at mtu.net Mon May 17 20:43:37 2010 From: jpschewe at mtu.net (Jon Schewe) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:43:37 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: <4BF1F0C9.8050005@mtu.net> I looked into tomato, but at the time it didn't state that my router was supported. I have a Linksys WRT150N. If tomato works better, that would be nice. The things I care about are: dhcp reservations, traffic shaping (for my voip), scheduled restrictions by mac address (turn off kids at night), port forwarding (for ssh to my box). On 05/17/2010 06:07 PM, Andrew S. Zbikowski wrote: > When I last tried DD-WRT I saw some flaky behavior. Switched to Tomato > firmware and eventually replaced the Linksys router with an Apple > AirPort Extreme. DD-WRT just seemed to get weird with long transfers, > but I didn't look into it too deeply. Tomato seemed to work better. > Only went to the AirPort Extreme as it was time to upgrade to 802.11N > and I needed a USB print server. > > -- > Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us > IT Outhouse Blog Thing | http://www.itouthouse.com > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100517/02df63b1/attachment.htm From kris.browne at gmail.com Mon May 17 21:32:29 2010 From: kris.browne at gmail.com (Kris Browne) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:32:29 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: <4BF1F0C9.8050005@mtu.net> References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> <4BF1F0C9.8050005@mtu.net> Message-ID: If scheduled MAC controls are limiting your choices, consider setting up Squid on a box somewhere and routing their traffic through that. Much more controllable. Kris Browne kris.browne at gmail.com 612-353-6969 612-408-4431 http://www.google.com/profiles/kris.browne "the least expensive, most bug-free line of code is the one you didn't have to write." - Steve Jobs On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 20:43, Jon Schewe wrote: > I looked into tomato, but at the time it didn't state that my router was > supported. I have a Linksys WRT150N. If tomato works better, that would be > nice. The things I care about are: dhcp reservations, traffic shaping (for > my voip), scheduled restrictions by mac address (turn off kids at night), > port forwarding (for ssh to my box). > > On 05/17/2010 06:07 PM, Andrew S. Zbikowski wrote: > > When I last tried DD-WRT I saw some flaky behavior. Switched to Tomato > firmware and eventually replaced the Linksys router with an Apple AirPort > Extreme. DD-WRT just seemed to get weird with long transfers, but I didn't > look into it too deeply. Tomato seemed to work better. Only went to the > AirPort Extreme as it was time to upgrade to 802.11N and I needed a USB > print server. > > -- > Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us > IT Outhouse Blog Thing | http://www.itouthouse.com > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > From jpschewe at mtu.net Tue May 18 07:27:26 2010 From: jpschewe at mtu.net (Jon Schewe) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:27:26 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> <4BF1F0C9.8050005@mtu.net> Message-ID: <4BF287AE.7030106@mtu.net> Umm, that just filters web traffic. I really need to shutdown everything, plus I really don't want yet another box in the house. That's why I've got the Linksys router. On 05/17/2010 09:32 PM, Kris Browne wrote: > If scheduled MAC controls are limiting your choices, consider setting > up Squid on a box somewhere and routing their traffic through that. > Much more controllable. > > Kris Browne > kris.browne at gmail.com > 612-353-6969 > 612-408-4431 > http://www.google.com/profiles/kris.browne > > "the least expensive, most bug-free line of code is the one you didn't > have to write." - Steve Jobs > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 20:43, Jon Schewe wrote: > >> I looked into tomato, but at the time it didn't state that my router was >> supported. I have a Linksys WRT150N. If tomato works better, that would be >> nice. The things I care about are: dhcp reservations, traffic shaping (for >> my voip), scheduled restrictions by mac address (turn off kids at night), >> port forwarding (for ssh to my box). >> >> On 05/17/2010 06:07 PM, Andrew S. Zbikowski wrote: >> >> When I last tried DD-WRT I saw some flaky behavior. Switched to Tomato >> firmware and eventually replaced the Linksys router with an Apple AirPort >> Extreme. DD-WRT just seemed to get weird with long transfers, but I didn't >> look into it too deeply. Tomato seemed to work better. Only went to the >> AirPort Extreme as it was time to upgrade to 802.11N and I needed a USB >> print server. >> >> -- >> Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us >> IT Outhouse Blog Thing | http://www.itouthouse.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From kc0iog at gmail.com Tue May 18 07:29:35 2010 From: kc0iog at gmail.com (Brian Wall) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:29:35 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jon Schewe wrote: > I'm trying to capture some large files from my house (on Comcast) to a > server out of state (not on Comcast). I'm copying the files using ssh > and a non-standard port.Things are fine for files of a couple megabytes, > but files over say 10 megabytes stall out part way through. One night I > got 50MB uploaded all night! So today I started up tcpdump on both ends > and captured the traffic. I noticed an interesting thing in wireshark > when the connection stalled out. I got a "TCP Previous segment lost" > message on the server side and then started getting "TCP Dup ACK" on > both ends. The server has a SonicWall firewall in front of it and is > virtualized with vmware. My house is using dd-wrt on a Linksys router as > my connection. Is this Comcast doing it's filtering for our protection > or is this just something misbehaving on either firewall? Could very well be the Sonicwall. I had to administer one of these trash heaps before, the default timeout for stateful connections is set to something useless. I worked around it by creating an outbound rule for all TCP traffic with a timeout of 120 minutes instead of the default (10?). There's also a setting (sorry, don't remember where) that adjusts the global TCP settings, and they're WRONG, horribly wrong by default. If I can find my Sonicwall documentation that I wrote, I'll post what the exact TCP settings are and where to find them. Your SSH session issue sounds identical to what I saw when I was trying to set up my first Sonicwall 3060 Pro. Brian From kc0iog at gmail.com Tue May 18 07:39:34 2010 From: kc0iog at gmail.com (Brian Wall) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:39:34 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: Found it, online docs for SonicOS 3.x: http://help.mysonicwall.com/sw/eng/701/ui2/23000/Firewall/TCP_Settings.htm "Firewall --> TCP settings: Default TCP Connection Timeout ? (Previously on the ?Firewall > Advanced? page). The default time assigned to Access Rules for TCP traffic. If a TCP session is active for a period in excess of this setting, the TCP connection will be cleared by the SonicWALL. The default value is 5 minutes, the minimum value is 1 minute, and the maximum value is 999 minutes. Note: Setting excessively long connection timeouts will slow the reclamation of stale resources, and in extreme cases could lead to exhaustion of the connection cache." Hope that's what you see on your SonicWall box, they're all a bit different so YMMV. 5 minutes is the default, and useless for SSH sessions. Heed the warning about freeing up stale connections, hence why I chose 120 minutes and had no noticeable side effects. You certainly can run the box out of CPU, as I have done in the past :-) Brian On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Brian Wall wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jon Schewe wrote: >> I'm trying to capture some large files from my house (on Comcast) to a >> server out of state (not on Comcast). I'm copying the files using ssh >> and a non-standard port.Things are fine for files of a couple megabytes, >> but files over say 10 megabytes stall out part way through. One night I >> got 50MB uploaded all night! So today I started up tcpdump on both ends >> and captured the traffic. I noticed an interesting thing in wireshark >> when the connection stalled out. I got a "TCP Previous segment lost" >> message on the server side and then started getting "TCP Dup ACK" on >> both ends. The server has a SonicWall firewall in front of it and is >> virtualized with vmware. My house is using dd-wrt on a Linksys router as >> my connection. Is this Comcast doing it's filtering for our protection >> or is this just something misbehaving on either firewall? > > Could very well be the Sonicwall. ?I had to administer one of these > trash heaps before, the default timeout for stateful connections is > set to something useless. > > I worked around it by creating an outbound rule for all TCP traffic > with a timeout of 120 minutes instead of the default (10?). ?There's > also a setting (sorry, don't remember where) that adjusts the global > TCP settings, and they're WRONG, horribly wrong by default. > > If I can find my Sonicwall documentation that I wrote, I'll post what > the exact TCP settings are and where to find them. ?Your SSH session > issue sounds identical to what I saw when I was trying to set up my > first Sonicwall 3060 Pro. > > Brian > From kc0iog at gmail.com Tue May 18 07:41:53 2010 From: kc0iog at gmail.com (Brian Wall) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:41:53 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: <4BF287AE.7030106@mtu.net> References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> <4BF1F0C9.8050005@mtu.net> <4BF287AE.7030106@mtu.net> Message-ID: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Jon Schewe wrote: > Umm, that just filters web traffic. I really need to shutdown > everything, plus I really don't want yet another box in the house. > That's why I've got the Linksys router. You stated it's in front of the server, is SSH traveling through it at all? Brian From loren.cahlander at gmail.com Tue May 18 09:15:04 2010 From: loren.cahlander at gmail.com (Loren Cahlander) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:15:04 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? Message-ID: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> Hello, I am trying to configure a new LDAP server on an Ubuntu VM. Is there someone who could meet with me for coffee or beer and help me with my initial configuration of OpenLDAP? The configuration requires: For the LDAP security manager you need to distinguished names (DN)--one for the users and one for the groups. Each user must be represented by a single entry under the user DN as an RFC 2307 posixAccount entry. Each group is represented by a single entry under the groupDN as a union of RFC 2307 posixGroup and RFC 2256 groupOfUniqueNames. I would really appreciate it. Thank you, Loren Cahlander -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100518/d4744781/attachment.htm From admin at lctn.org Tue May 18 09:29:01 2010 From: admin at lctn.org (Raymond Norton) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:29:01 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> On 5/18/2010 9:15 AM, Loren Cahlander wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to configure a new LDAP server on an Ubuntu VM. Is there > someone who could meet with me for coffee or beer and help me with my > initial configuration of OpenLDAP? I just set up openldap for the first time last week. I can email you all the docs I used to figure things out. From mfunger at arbita.net Tue May 18 09:31:24 2010 From: mfunger at arbita.net (Matthew F. Unger) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:31:24 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some helpdoing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd be interested in getting together, too. We're currently using AD, and I'd like to dump as much of our MS as possible in the next year or so. Thanks! Matt From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Loren Cahlander Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:15 AM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some helpdoing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? Hello, I am trying to configure a new LDAP server on an Ubuntu VM. Is there someone who could meet with me for coffee or beer and help me with my initial configuration of OpenLDAP? The configuration requires: For the LDAP security manager you need to distinguished names (DN)--one for the users and one for the groups. Each user must be represented by a single entry under the user DN as an RFC 2307 posixAccount entry. Each group is represented by a single entry under the groupDN as a union of RFC 2307 posixGroup and RFC 2256 groupOfUniqueNames. I would really appreciate it. Thank you, Loren Cahlander -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100518/4c73c393/attachment.htm From loren.cahlander at gmail.com Tue May 18 09:35:22 2010 From: loren.cahlander at gmail.com (Loren Cahlander) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:35:22 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> Message-ID: <07E90F72-839D-4B3B-8F0B-3C61EB7B2D02@gmail.com> I would appreciate that. I have encountered some conflicting information and would like to use one approach that works. Thank you, Loren On May 18, 2010, at 09:29 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: > > > On 5/18/2010 9:15 AM, Loren Cahlander wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to configure a new LDAP server on an Ubuntu VM. Is there >> someone who could meet with me for coffee or beer and help me with my >> initial configuration of OpenLDAP? > > > I just set up openldap for the first time last week. I can email you all > the docs I used to figure things out. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From hpenner at gmail.com Tue May 18 09:37:36 2010 From: hpenner at gmail.com (Harry Penner) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:37:36 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: Brian, It automatically kills TCP connections that last longer than 5 minutes? That's crazy! Why does it do that? To protect against SYN scans overloading the server or something similar? Harry On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Brian Wall wrote: > Found it, online docs for SonicOS 3.x: > > http://help.mysonicwall.com/sw/eng/701/ui2/23000/Firewall/TCP_Settings.htm > > > "Firewall --> TCP settings: > > Default TCP Connection Timeout ? (Previously on the ?Firewall > > Advanced? page). The default time assigned to Access Rules for TCP > traffic. If a TCP session is active for a period in excess of this > setting, the TCP connection will be cleared by the SonicWALL. The > default value is 5 minutes, the minimum value is 1 minute, and the > maximum value is 999 minutes. Note: Setting excessively long > connection timeouts will slow the reclamation of stale resources, and > in extreme cases could lead to exhaustion of the connection cache." > > > > Hope that's what you see on your SonicWall box, they're all a bit > different so YMMV. > > 5 minutes is the default, and useless for SSH sessions. Heed the > warning about freeing up stale connections, hence why I chose 120 > minutes and had no noticeable side effects. You certainly can run the > box out of CPU, as I have done in the past :-) > > Brian > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Brian Wall wrote: > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jon Schewe wrote: > >> I'm trying to capture some large files from my house (on Comcast) to a > >> server out of state (not on Comcast). I'm copying the files using ssh > >> and a non-standard port.Things are fine for files of a couple megabytes, > >> but files over say 10 megabytes stall out part way through. One night I > >> got 50MB uploaded all night! So today I started up tcpdump on both ends > >> and captured the traffic. I noticed an interesting thing in wireshark > >> when the connection stalled out. I got a "TCP Previous segment lost" > >> message on the server side and then started getting "TCP Dup ACK" on > >> both ends. The server has a SonicWall firewall in front of it and is > >> virtualized with vmware. My house is using dd-wrt on a Linksys router as > >> my connection. Is this Comcast doing it's filtering for our protection > >> or is this just something misbehaving on either firewall? > > > > Could very well be the Sonicwall. I had to administer one of these > > trash heaps before, the default timeout for stateful connections is > > set to something useless. > > > > I worked around it by creating an outbound rule for all TCP traffic > > with a timeout of 120 minutes instead of the default (10?). There's > > also a setting (sorry, don't remember where) that adjusts the global > > TCP settings, and they're WRONG, horribly wrong by default. > > > > If I can find my Sonicwall documentation that I wrote, I'll post what > > the exact TCP settings are and where to find them. Your SSH session > > issue sounds identical to what I saw when I was trying to set up my > > first Sonicwall 3060 Pro. > > > > Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100518/42833515/attachment-0001.htm From admin at lctn.org Tue May 18 09:43:43 2010 From: admin at lctn.org (Raymond Norton) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:43:43 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <07E90F72-839D-4B3B-8F0B-3C61EB7B2D02@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <07E90F72-839D-4B3B-8F0B-3C61EB7B2D02@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF2A79F.1070503@lctn.org> LDAP http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1016-ldap-server-on-ubuntu-804 http://www.grennan.com/ldap-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/ldap_bind-invalid-credentials-49-a-392905/ http://web500gw.sourceforge.net/errors.html http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=238007 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer#Installation http://forums.devshed.com/ldap-programming-76/can-t-add-to-ldap-when-run-slapd-returns-an-140552.html https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OSXLDAPClientAuthentication http://onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/03/27/ldap_ab.html?page=2 http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/1005.html On 5/18/2010 9:35 AM, Loren Cahlander wrote: > I would appreciate that. I have encountered some conflicting information and would like to use one approach that works. > > Thank you, > Loren > > On May 18, 2010, at 09:29 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: > >> >> >> On 5/18/2010 9:15 AM, Loren Cahlander wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am trying to configure a new LDAP server on an Ubuntu VM. Is there >>> someone who could meet with me for coffee or beer and help me with my >>> initial configuration of OpenLDAP? >> >> >> I just set up openldap for the first time last week. I can email you all >> the docs I used to figure things out. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From sloncho at gmail.com Tue May 18 09:45:28 2010 From: sloncho at gmail.com (Sunny) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:45:28 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> Message-ID: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: > > > I just set up openldap for the first time last week. I can email you all > the docs I used to figure things out. > Hi Raymond, can you please publish this on list, so others (me :) ) can have it as well. Cheers PS: this looks like interesting topic for some next meeting (Penguins, etc.) -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. From erikerik at gmail.com Tue May 18 09:49:16 2010 From: erikerik at gmail.com (Erik Anderson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:49:16 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Harry Penner wrote: > > It automatically kills TCP connections that last longer than 5 minutes? > That's crazy! > > Why does it do that?? To protect against SYN scans overloading the server or > something similar? More likely because the device has a woefully inadequate amount of RAM, and it's trying to avoid resource starvation. Personally, I switched from DD-WRT to PFsense running on a PCEngines alix board a year and a half ago and haven't looked back. PFSense is FreeBSD-based, and in my opinion is a much better routing/firewall platform than DD-WRT, both in terms of stability and feature set. Check it out if you have a few spare cycles! -Erik From ecrist at secure-computing.net Tue May 18 09:53:17 2010 From: ecrist at secure-computing.net (Eric F Crist) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:53:17 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5E018085-3DC0-48E3-A99D-D00D6110AA15@secure-computing.net> First rule of LDAP, don't talk about LDAP. Second rule of LDAP, DON'T TALK ABOUT LDAP. On May 18, 2010, at 09:15:04, Loren Cahlander wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to configure a new LDAP server on an Ubuntu VM. Is there someone who could meet with me for coffee or beer and help me with my initial configuration of OpenLDAP? > > The configuration requires: > > For the LDAP security manager you need to distinguished names (DN)--one for the users and one for the groups. Each user must be represented by a single entry under the user DN as an RFC 2307 posixAccount entry. > > Each group is represented by a single entry under the groupDN as a union of RFC 2307 posixGroup and RFC 2256 groupOfUniqueNames. > > > I would really appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Loren Cahlander > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list --- Eric Crist From admin at lctn.org Tue May 18 09:55:55 2010 From: admin at lctn.org (Raymond Norton) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:55:55 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> Message-ID: <4BF2AA7B.9070104@lctn.org> > Hi Raymond, > can you please publish this on list, so others (me :) ) can have it as well. > > Cheers > > PS: this looks like interesting topic for some next meeting (Penguins, etc.) > > Once you have it installed you will want to populate the database. I chose to export my Thunderbird addressbook, but the Base DN was wrong, among other things. I fixed most of the records using SED (no one replied to my question, so not sure of there is an easier way). I tried to use Thunderbirds php script, but couldn't get it to work. Here is the command I used to fix records that only the wrong Base DN: sed -e "s/mail=.*$/ou=addressbook,dc=lctn,dc=org/g" Raymonds.ldif > test.ldif http://www.suwald.com/linux-gnu/sed-howto.html From ron.e.nelson at gmail.com Tue May 18 11:25:08 2010 From: ron.e.nelson at gmail.com (Ron Nelson) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:25:08 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] CLASSIFIED: Gateway VX1110 21-inch Monitor $20/OBO Message-ID: Pickup in Woodbury. Anyone interested? https://support.gateway.com/s/MONITOR/7001532/7001532nv.shtml *VX1110 21-inch Monitor with 20-inch Viewable Area Key Features*Sharpest focus and highest contrastFlat screen CRT with anti-glare, dynamic focus circuit, dark glass, and an invar shadow mask gives the sharpest focus and highest contrast to minimize eye fatigue.Digital picture control functionPosition, size, rotation, pincushion, trapezoid, right pincushion, and right trapezoid are adjustable by digital controls. Geometry settings can be stored for different horizontal and vertical frequencies. Microprocessor-based preset functions can store 26 sets of geometry settings, including the standard factory settings.Digital color control functionRed, green, and blue color balance is adjustable by digital control. Adjusted color setting can be stored and recalled by the color select button.EasyMenuOn-screen display function that allows direct access to adjust all operations from the front panel.Moir? reductionThis monitor has horizontal and vertical moir? reduction function.Compatibility with VGA, 8514A, Extended VGA, and Super VGA18-inch viewable high contrast picture tube.22 millimeter (mm) fine pitch CRTConvenient up-front controlsConforms to EPA Energy Star guidelines -- http://ronspace.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Digital > picture control function Position, size, rotation, pincushion, trapezoid, > right pincushion, and right trapezoid are adjustable by digital controls. > Geometry settings can be stored for different horizontal and vertical > frequencies. Microprocessor-based preset functions can store 26 sets of > geometry settings, including the standard factory settings. Digital color > control function Red, green, and blue color balance is adjustable by > digital control. Adjusted color setting can be stored and recalled by the > color select button. EasyMenuOn-screen display function that allows direct > access to adjust all operations from the front panel. Moir? reduction This > monitor has horizontal and vertical moir? reduction function.Compatibility > with VGA, 8514A, Extended VGA, and Super VGA 18-inch viewable high > contrast picture tube .22 millimeter (mm) fine pitch CRTConvenient > up-front controls Conforms to EPA Energy Star guidelines > > > -- > http://ronspace.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -- May the source be with you, but remember the KISS principle ;-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100518/48c185c0/attachment-0001.htm From SDALAN04 at smumn.edu Tue May 18 13:07:34 2010 From: SDALAN04 at smumn.edu (SDALAN04 at smumn.edu) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:07:34 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get somehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? Message-ID: <2010051818073407c108f4e4@mail.smumn.edu> I would have replied but felt did not have enough technical background. Now that you mention this, I believe I might have done the same: 1. Exported the current tree. 2. Created new base so I believe we had the ou:production and I created a new one for development. 3. Used perl to search and replace (as Raymond did). 4. Imported the ldiff to the new tree/ou. I use ldapbrowser which is java based and developed by some government military branch but they stopped maintaining it and now I can only find this: http://www.anl.gov/techtransfer/Software_Shop/LDAP/LDAP.html I have it here: www.dalan.us/download/ldapbrowser.zip It works in both Windows and Linux as long as you have java. In linux just execute lbe.sh On Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:55 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: >> Hi Raymond, >> can you please publish this on list, so others (me :) ) can have it as well. >> >> Cheers >> >> PS: this looks like interesting topic for some next meeting (Penguins, etc.) >> >> > >Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:55:55 -0500 >From: Raymond Norton >To: TCLUG Mailing List >cc: >Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get somehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? > >Once you have it installed you will want to populate the database. I >chose to export my Thunderbird addressbook, but the Base DN was wrong, >among other things. > >I fixed most of the records using SED (no one replied to my question, so >not sure of there is an easier way). I tried to use Thunderbirds php >script, but couldn't get it to work. > > >Here is the command I used to fix records that only the wrong Base DN: > > sed -e "s/mail=.*$/ou=addressbook,dc=lctn,dc=org/g" Raymonds.ldif > >test.ldif > > >http://www.suwald.com/linux-gnu/sed-howto.html > >_______________________________________________ >TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >tclug-list at mn-linux.org >http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" From SDALAN04 at smumn.edu Tue May 18 13:17:40 2010 From: SDALAN04 at smumn.edu (SDALAN04 at smumn.edu) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:17:40 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and getsomehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? Message-ID: <2010051818174002c108f5d9@mail.smumn.edu> I guess this may be the most current version here; http://www.openchannelsoftware.com/projects/LDAP_Browser_Editor On Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:07 PM, SDALAN04 at smumn.edu wrote: > >Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:07:34 -0500 >From: SDALAN04 at smumn.edu >To: TCLUG Mailing List >cc: >Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and getsomehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? > >I would have replied but felt did not have enough technical background. > >Now that you mention this, I believe I might have done the same: > >1. Exported the current tree. >2. Created new base so I believe we had the ou:production and I created a new one for development. >3. Used perl to search and replace (as Raymond did). >4. Imported the ldiff to the new tree/ou. > >I use ldapbrowser which is java based and developed by some government military branch but they stopped maintaining it and now I can only find this: > >http://www.anl.gov/techtransfer/Software_Shop/LDAP/LDAP.html > >I have it here: www.dalan.us/download/ldapbrowser.zip > >It works in both Windows and Linux as long as you have java. > >In linux just execute lbe.sh > > >On Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:55 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: >>> Hi Raymond, >>> can you please publish this on list, so others (me :) ) can have it as well. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> PS: this looks like interesting topic for some next meeting (Penguins, etc.) >>> >>> >> >>Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:55:55 -0500 >>From: Raymond Norton >>To: TCLUG Mailing List >>cc: >>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get somehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? >> >>Once you have it installed you will want to populate the database. I >>chose to export my Thunderbird addressbook, but the Base DN was wrong, >>among other things. >> >>I fixed most of the records using SED (no one replied to my question, so >>not sure of there is an easier way). I tried to use Thunderbirds php >>script, but couldn't get it to work. >> >> >>Here is the command I used to fix records that only the wrong Base DN: >> >> sed -e "s/mail=.*$/ou=addressbook,dc=lctn,dc=org/g" Raymonds.ldif > >>test.ldif >> >> >>http://www.suwald.com/linux-gnu/sed-howto.html >> >>_______________________________________________ >>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > >"Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein > >"Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" > > >_______________________________________________ >TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >tclug-list at mn-linux.org >http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" From SDALAN04 at smumn.edu Tue May 18 13:22:31 2010 From: SDALAN04 at smumn.edu (SDALAN04 at smumn.edu) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:22:31 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and getsomehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? Message-ID: <2010051818223162c108f61e@mail.smumn.edu> Sorry for the spam but looking over the my previous e-mail I wanted to make sure I wasn't making ldapbrowser illegally available. This is the license withing the ldapbrowser zip you can download from me: Copyright 2000 by Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Sun grants you ("Licensee") a non-exclusive, royalty free, license to use, and redistribute this software graphics artwork, as individual graphics or as a collection, as part of software code or programs that you develop, provided that i) this copyright notice and license accompany the software graphics artwork; and ii) you do not utilize the software graphics artwork in a manner which is disparaging to Sun. 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If any of the above provisions are held to be in violation of applicable law, void, or unenforceable in any jurisdiction, then such provisions are waived to the extent necessary for this Disclaimer to be other wise enforceable in such jurisdiction. On Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:07 PM, SDALAN04 at smumn.edu wrote: > >Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:07:34 -0500 >From: SDALAN04 at smumn.edu >To: TCLUG Mailing List >cc: >Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and getsomehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? > >I would have replied but felt did not have enough technical background. > >Now that you mention this, I believe I might have done the same: > >1. Exported the current tree. >2. Created new base so I believe we had the ou:production and I created a new one for development. >3. Used perl to search and replace (as Raymond did). >4. Imported the ldiff to the new tree/ou. > >I use ldapbrowser which is java based and developed by some government military branch but they stopped maintaining it and now I can only find this: > >http://www.anl.gov/techtransfer/Software_Shop/LDAP/LDAP.html > >I have it here: www.dalan.us/download/ldapbrowser.zip > >It works in both Windows and Linux as long as you have java. > >In linux just execute lbe.sh > > >On Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:55 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: >>> Hi Raymond, >>> can you please publish this on list, so others (me :) ) can have it as well. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> PS: this looks like interesting topic for some next meeting (Penguins, etc.) >>> >>> >> >>Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:55:55 -0500 >>From: Raymond Norton >>To: TCLUG Mailing List >>cc: >>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get somehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? >> >>Once you have it installed you will want to populate the database. I >>chose to export my Thunderbird addressbook, but the Base DN was wrong, >>among other things. >> >>I fixed most of the records using SED (no one replied to my question, so >>not sure of there is an easier way). I tried to use Thunderbirds php >>script, but couldn't get it to work. >> >> >>Here is the command I used to fix records that only the wrong Base DN: >> >> sed -e "s/mail=.*$/ou=addressbook,dc=lctn,dc=org/g" Raymonds.ldif > >>test.ldif >> >> >>http://www.suwald.com/linux-gnu/sed-howto.html >> >>_______________________________________________ >>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > >"Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein > >"Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" > > >_______________________________________________ >TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >tclug-list at mn-linux.org >http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" From jpschewe at mtu.net Tue May 18 18:34:12 2010 From: jpschewe at mtu.net (Jon Schewe) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:34:12 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> <4BF1F0C9.8050005@mtu.net> <4BF287AE.7030106@mtu.net> Message-ID: <4BF323F4.5050307@mtu.net> On 05/18/2010 07:41 AM, Brian Wall wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Jon Schewe wrote: > >> Umm, that just filters web traffic. I really need to shutdown >> everything, plus I really don't want yet another box in the house. >> That's why I've got the Linksys router. >> > You stated it's in front of the server, is SSH traveling through it at all? > > Yes, everything is traveling through it. Setup is standard house: multiple computers (including server) ----- linksys router --- comcast cable modem I have setup squid before, but that just filters web traffic, not mail and ssh and whatever else the kids come up with in the middle of the night. From jpschewe at mtu.net Tue May 18 21:21:16 2010 From: jpschewe at mtu.net (Jon Schewe) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:21:16 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Comcast being evil or some bad hardware? In-Reply-To: References: <4BF1A4AC.9070606@mtu.net> Message-ID: <4BF34B1C.8090201@mtu.net> On 05/18/2010 09:49 AM, Erik Anderson wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Harry Penner wrote: > >> It automatically kills TCP connections that last longer than 5 minutes? >> That's crazy! >> >> Why does it do that? To protect against SYN scans overloading the server or >> something similar? >> > More likely because the device has a woefully inadequate amount of > RAM, and it's trying to avoid resource starvation. > > Personally, I switched from DD-WRT to PFsense running on a PCEngines > alix board a year and a half ago and haven't looked back. PFSense is > FreeBSD-based, and in my opinion is a much better routing/firewall > platform than DD-WRT, both in terms of stability and feature set. > > Check it out if you have a few spare cycles! > > I'll keep that in mind if I get another box I want to use instead of my Linksys router. In the meantime I tested with my Linux box directly on the net and still get the TCP Duplicate Acks, so I don't think it's my router. Now I'm going to try a few other sites that accept secure copies and see what happens and if it's a port thing or not. I'm also having issues with my verizon network extender dropping calls after awhile as well, so I'm thinking comcast is throttling long connections. From loren.cahlander at gmail.com Wed May 19 11:06:16 2010 From: loren.cahlander at gmail.com (Loren Cahlander) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:06:16 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <33BB64E9-05BF-4904-A945-A0B907490976@gmail.com> <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> Message-ID: <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> On May 18, 2010, at 01:10 PM, Raymond Norton wrote: > These are the tutorials that got me up and running. Follow step by step, replacing example information with your own. I tabbed between tutorials to get things set up. I only focused on getting an ldap address book working for now, but ultimately need it for user authentication via a radius server. > > http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1016-ldap-server-on-ubuntu-804 > Unfortunately, the instructions do not follow my experience. The apt-get install slapd ldap-utils does not prompt for ah administrator password. The /etc/ldap/slapd.conf is not created, because it is using the /etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config approach. I have not been able to find any help on the web for this approach. I am looking for just a standard configuration. The instructions to configure the eXist XML database are at http://exist-db.org/ldap-security.html. I do not care how I get to a working configuration, but I do need to get one working. It seems that the OOTB with apt-get install slapd ldap-utils is missing some steps. Everything else that I have installed through apt-get has been a perfect install. Why is LDAP still such an arcane art? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100519/26f2b407/attachment.htm From goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com Wed May 19 12:19:43 2010 From: goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com (Brian Dolan-Goecke) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:19:43 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <33BB64E9-05BF-4904-A945-A0B907490976@gmail.com> <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF41DAF.6060007@Goecke-Dolan.com> If you are using 9.10 (not sure if it is in 9.04 ? ) there is a bug. And it doesn't ask. Here are some links to info about configuring LDAP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313472 That should get you going. Good Luck. If you have questions I can try and help, I am implementing LDAP for our department now... So time allowing I can try and answer questions. But I am really busy with this.. There is also my presentation on LDAP from last year's Penguins Unbound Meeting. Not as much specific info, but still some useful info. http://www.penguinsunbound.com/Past_Meetings/20090926_-_LDAP_Enterprise_Authentication ==>brian. Loren Cahlander wrote: > > On May 18, 2010, at 01:10 PM, Raymond Norton wrote: > >> These are the tutorials that got me up and running. Follow step by >> step, replacing example information with your own. I tabbed between >> tutorials to get things set up. I only focused on getting an ldap >> address book working for now, but ultimately need it for user >> authentication via a radius server. >> >> http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1016-ldap-server-on-ubuntu-804 >> > > Unfortunately, the instructions do not follow my experience. > > The */apt-get install slapd ldap-utils/* does not prompt for ah > administrator password. > The */etc/ldap/slapd.conf* is not created, because it is using the > */etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config* approach. I have not been able to find > any help on the web for this approach. > > I am looking for just a standard configuration. The instructions to > configure the eXist XML database are > at http://exist-db.org/ldap-security.html. > > I do not care how I get to a working configuration, but I do need to get > one working. It seems that the OOTB with apt-get install slapd > ldap-utils is missing some steps. Everything else that I have installed > through apt-get has been a perfect install. Why is LDAP still such an > arcane art? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From dan at dburkland.com Wed May 19 12:49:42 2010 From: dan at dburkland.com (Dan Burkland) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:49:42 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? Message-ID: I think a meeting about OpenLDAP (specifically 2.4) would be a great idea. I have learned LDAP on 2.3 so it would be interesting to hear someone talk about 2.4 and some advanced features it provides. I also would be willing to share some information on how integrated a KDC with OpenLDAP. Dan Sent from my iPhone From loren.cahlander at gmail.com Wed May 19 13:54:25 2010 From: loren.cahlander at gmail.com (Loren Cahlander) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:54:25 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have seen from the website that there has not been a meeting in quite some time. I think that OpenLDAP would be an excellent topic for the next meeting. Can we schedule one? Loren On May 19, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Dan Burkland wrote: > I think a meeting about OpenLDAP (specifically 2.4) would be a great > idea. I have learned LDAP on 2.3 so it would be interesting to hear > someone talk about 2.4 and some advanced features it provides. I also > would be willing to share some information on how integrated a KDC > with OpenLDAP. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From admin at lctn.org Wed May 19 14:07:33 2010 From: admin at lctn.org (admin at lctn.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:07:33 +0000 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get somehelp doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? Message-ID: <1301706404-1274296006-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-436082618-@bda574.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Include LDAP with Freeradius and I will come to my first meeting :) From loren.cahlander at gmail.com Wed May 19 17:14:13 2010 From: loren.cahlander at gmail.com (Loren Cahlander) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:14:13 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <4BF41DAF.6060007@Goecke-Dolan.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <33BB64E9-05BF-4904-A945-A0B907490976@gmail.com> <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> <4BF41DAF.6060007@Goecke-Dolan.com> Message-ID: <66C299E1-B94E-4B95-9DDA-A2FBB2B6FA6A@gmail.com> That first link worked. THANKS!!! On May 19, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Brian Dolan-Goecke wrote: > If you are using 9.10 (not sure if it is in 9.04 ? ) there is a bug. And > it doesn't ask. Here are some links to info about configuring LDAP. > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313472 > > That should get you going. > > Good Luck. > > If you have questions I can try and help, I am implementing LDAP for our > department now... So time allowing I can try and answer questions. But I > am really busy with this.. > > There is also my presentation on LDAP from last year's Penguins Unbound > Meeting. Not as much specific info, but still some useful info. > > http://www.penguinsunbound.com/Past_Meetings/20090926_-_LDAP_Enterprise_Authentication > > ==>brian. > > Loren Cahlander wrote: >> >> On May 18, 2010, at 01:10 PM, Raymond Norton wrote: >> >>> These are the tutorials that got me up and running. Follow step by >>> step, replacing example information with your own. I tabbed between >>> tutorials to get things set up. I only focused on getting an ldap >>> address book working for now, but ultimately need it for user >>> authentication via a radius server. >>> >>> http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1016-ldap-server-on-ubuntu-804 >>> >> >> Unfortunately, the instructions do not follow my experience. >> >> The */apt-get install slapd ldap-utils/* does not prompt for ah >> administrator password. >> The */etc/ldap/slapd.conf* is not created, because it is using the >> */etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config* approach. I have not been able to find >> any help on the web for this approach. >> >> I am looking for just a standard configuration. The instructions to >> configure the eXist XML database are >> at http://exist-db.org/ldap-security.html. >> >> I do not care how I get to a working configuration, but I do need to get >> one working. It seems that the OOTB with apt-get install slapd >> ldap-utils is missing some steps. Everything else that I have installed >> through apt-get has been a perfect install. Why is LDAP still such an >> arcane art? >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From loren.cahlander at gmail.com Wed May 19 17:17:32 2010 From: loren.cahlander at gmail.com (Loren Cahlander) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:17:32 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Can I meet with someone over coffee and get some help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <66C299E1-B94E-4B95-9DDA-A2FBB2B6FA6A@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <33BB64E9-05BF-4904-A945-A0B907490976@gmail.com> <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> <4BF41DAF.6060007@Goecke-Dolan.com> <66C299E1-B94E-4B95-9DDA-A2FBB2B6FA6A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7CAA9EA5-AD1E-43BB-9B17-1E92565008C4@gmail.com> Now I just need to figure the configuration for dc=vm,dc=example,dc=com I would also like to find out the configuration for: dc=vm,dc=exist-db,dc=org can you suggest the changes that I would need to either /root/db.ldif or /tmp/base.ldif to accomplish this? Thank you, Loren On May 19, 2010, at 05:14 PM, Loren Cahlander wrote: > That first link worked. THANKS!!! > > On May 19, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Brian Dolan-Goecke wrote: > >> If you are using 9.10 (not sure if it is in 9.04 ? ) there is a bug. And >> it doesn't ask. Here are some links to info about configuring LDAP. >> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313472 >> >> That should get you going. >> >> Good Luck. >> >> If you have questions I can try and help, I am implementing LDAP for our >> department now... So time allowing I can try and answer questions. But I >> am really busy with this.. >> >> There is also my presentation on LDAP from last year's Penguins Unbound >> Meeting. Not as much specific info, but still some useful info. >> >> http://www.penguinsunbound.com/Past_Meetings/20090926_-_LDAP_Enterprise_Authentication >> >> ==>brian. >> >> Loren Cahlander wrote: >>> >>> On May 18, 2010, at 01:10 PM, Raymond Norton wrote: >>> >>>> These are the tutorials that got me up and running. Follow step by >>>> step, replacing example information with your own. I tabbed between >>>> tutorials to get things set up. I only focused on getting an ldap >>>> address book working for now, but ultimately need it for user >>>> authentication via a radius server. >>>> >>>> http://beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1016-ldap-server-on-ubuntu-804 >>>> >>> >>> Unfortunately, the instructions do not follow my experience. >>> >>> The */apt-get install slapd ldap-utils/* does not prompt for ah >>> administrator password. >>> The */etc/ldap/slapd.conf* is not created, because it is using the >>> */etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config* approach. I have not been able to find >>> any help on the web for this approach. >>> >>> I am looking for just a standard configuration. The instructions to >>> configure the eXist XML database are >>> at http://exist-db.org/ldap-security.html. >>> >>> I do not care how I get to a working configuration, but I do need to get >>> one working. It seems that the OOTB with apt-get install slapd >>> ldap-utils is missing some steps. Everything else that I have installed >>> through apt-get has been a perfect install. Why is LDAP still such an >>> arcane art? From mailinglists at soul-dev.com Wed May 19 19:16:38 2010 From: mailinglists at soul-dev.com (Mr. Mailinglists) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:16:38 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] [OT] ....help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <7CAA9EA5-AD1E-43BB-9B17-1E92565008C4@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <33BB64E9-05BF-4904-A945-A0B907490976@gmail.com> <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> <4BF41DAF.6060007@Goecke-Dolan.com> <66C299E1-B94E-4B95-9DDA-A2FBB2B6FA6A@gmail.com> <7CAA9EA5-AD1E-43BB-9B17-1E92565008C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF47F66.1070100@soul-dev.com> Evening all, Just curious, since we are LDAPing it up. Has anyone else been following Samba 4? http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO Unfortunately, I still have to deal with many Windows clients (as I'm sure some else do as well). I also looked at replacing an AD infrastructure with an OpenLDAP infrastructure but was not feasible due to many factors, the biggest being Group Policy, which is implemented in Samba 4. I have been playing with it since Alpha 10, and I have been wholly impressed with its functionality and development pace. Thought I should share for those who haven't found it yet ;-) I really think I owe Andrew and the rest of the S4 team a case of beer (at the very least). From loren.cahlander at gmail.com Wed May 19 19:24:28 2010 From: loren.cahlander at gmail.com (Loren Cahlander) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:24:28 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] [OT] ....help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <4BF47F66.1070100@soul-dev.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <33BB64E9-05BF-4904-A945-A0B907490976@gmail.com> <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> <4BF41DAF.6060007@Goecke-Dolan.com> <66C299E1-B94E-4B95-9DDA-A2FBB2B6FA6A@gmail.com> <7CAA9EA5-AD1E-43BB-9B17-1E92565008C4@gmail.com> <4BF47F66.1070100@soul-dev.com> Message-ID: <38D5AF0D-39C0-4A1A-A9F5-FB8B45ACCB38@gmail.com> I have LDAP configured on my system, but need to configure ldap-account-manager and I should have it configured sometime tomorrow morning. Loren On May 19, 2010, at 07:16 PM, Mr. Mailinglists wrote: > Evening all, > > Just curious, since we are LDAPing it up. > > Has anyone else been following Samba 4? > > http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO > > Unfortunately, I still have to deal with many Windows clients (as I'm sure > some else do as well). I also looked at replacing an AD infrastructure with an > OpenLDAP infrastructure but was not feasible due to many factors, the biggest being > Group Policy, which is implemented in Samba 4. > > I have been playing with it since Alpha 10, and I have been wholly impressed with its > functionality and development pace. > > Thought I should share for those who haven't found it yet ;-) > > I really think I owe Andrew and the rest of the S4 team a case of beer (at the very least). > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com Thu May 20 15:20:13 2010 From: goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com (Brian Dolan-Goecke) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:20:13 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] [OT] ....help doing an initial configuration of OpenLDAP? In-Reply-To: <38D5AF0D-39C0-4A1A-A9F5-FB8B45ACCB38@gmail.com> References: <0178A9C2-B3B3-4F1E-9766-88C9A4ECF929@gmail.com> <4BF2A42D.1060302@lctn.org> <33BB64E9-05BF-4904-A945-A0B907490976@gmail.com> <4BF2D825.2080605@lctn.org> <54DA4A7E-2D67-4CFE-B8F2-737C77AADC49@gmail.com> <4BF41DAF.6060007@Goecke-Dolan.com> <66C299E1-B94E-4B95-9DDA-A2FBB2B6FA6A@gmail.com> <7CAA9EA5-AD1E-43BB-9B17-1E92565008C4@gmail.com> <4BF47F66.1070100@soul-dev.com> <38D5AF0D-39C0-4A1A-A9F5-FB8B45ACCB38@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF5997D.8070602@Goecke-Dolan.com> I found another useful (more useful?) link for Ubuntu and OpenLdap that uses the new configuration for OpenLDAP. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html I couldn't find a date on it ? but it must be new, I know I have looked before and didn't come across this one ? Maybe it came around when Ubuntu 10.04 ? As for meeting topic, I can only speak about the Penguins Unbound meeting. I would love to have someone to come talk about OpenLDAP and/or radius on Ubuntu or any Linux, for that matter about anything Linux/Unix. I have meeting dates planned through the end of the year (http://www.penguinsunbound.com/Future_Meetings) if you are interested in talking about a topic let me know when you would like to speak, and I would love to have anyone. Thanks. ==>brian. Loren Cahlander wrote: > I have LDAP configured on my system, but need to configure ldap-account-manager and I should have it configured sometime tomorrow morning. > > Loren > > On May 19, 2010, at 07:16 PM, Mr. Mailinglists wrote: > >> Evening all, >> >> Just curious, since we are LDAPing it up. >> >> Has anyone else been following Samba 4? >> >> http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO >> >> Unfortunately, I still have to deal with many Windows clients (as I'm sure >> some else do as well). I also looked at replacing an AD infrastructure with an >> OpenLDAP infrastructure but was not feasible due to many factors, the biggest being >> Group Policy, which is implemented in Samba 4. >> >> I have been playing with it since Alpha 10, and I have been wholly impressed with its >> functionality and development pace. >> >> Thought I should share for those who haven't found it yet ;-) >> >> I really think I owe Andrew and the rest of the S4 team a case of beer (at the very least). >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From bahamutzero8825 at gmail.com Sun May 23 20:28:14 2010 From: bahamutzero8825 at gmail.com (Andrew Berg) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:28:14 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Trying to put a program into the background and bring it back at will (regular method not working right for this program) Message-ID: <4BF9D62E.3070305@gmail.com> I connect to a remote server regularly and use its spare CPU to do video transcoding. I use MEncoder to do the video portion and the primary problem I have is that I can may time out randomly (I'm behind a router running DD-WRT, so maybe it's related to the problem Jon Schewe posted about) and when that happens, I have to start the encode over (this is especially frustrating when doing a 3-hour event from a BD or 1080i TV cap). Adding & to the end of my command has two problems. First, the constantly updated status line with percent finished and other important information is still written to the terminal and covers up any commands I type as well as any output a command gives. Second, this does not prevent MEncoder from stopping if I time out anyway. I find that the only way to prevent MEncoder from stopping is to add & to the command and exit the terminal. My script with MEncoder will still run in the background whether I'm connected or not, but I then have no way to see the status line again. Ideally, I want to reattach the status line to a terminal so I can see it and then detach it and send it back into the background. From sulrich at botwerks.org Sun May 23 20:37:35 2010 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:37:35 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Trying to put a program into the background and bring it back at will (regular method not working right for this program) In-Reply-To: <4BF9D62E.3070305@gmail.com> References: <4BF9D62E.3070305@gmail.com> Message-ID: screen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > I connect to a remote server regularly and use its spare CPU to do video > transcoding. I use MEncoder to do the video portion and the primary > problem I have is that I can may time out randomly (I'm behind a router > running DD-WRT, so maybe it's related to the problem Jon Schewe posted > about) and when that happens, I have to start the encode over (this is > especially frustrating when doing a 3-hour event from a BD or 1080i TV > cap). Adding & to the end of my command has two problems. First, the > constantly updated status line with percent finished and other important > information is still written to the terminal and covers up any commands > I type as well as any output a command gives. Second, this does not > prevent MEncoder from stopping if I time out anyway. I find that the > only way to prevent MEncoder from stopping is to add & to the command > and exit the terminal. My script with MEncoder will still run in the > background whether I'm connected or not, but I then have no way to see > the status line again. Ideally, I want to reattach the status line to a > terminal so I can see it and then detach it and send it back into the > background. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -- steve ulrich (sulrich at botwerks.*) From bijoy.anose at gmail.com Sun May 23 20:46:38 2010 From: bijoy.anose at gmail.com (Bijoy Anose) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:46:38 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Trying to put a program into the background and bring it back at will (regular method not working right for this program) In-Reply-To: <4BF9D62E.3070305@gmail.com> References: <4BF9D62E.3070305@gmail.com> Message-ID: man screen On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > I connect to a remote server regularly and use its spare CPU to do video > transcoding. I use MEncoder to do the video portion and the primary > problem I have is that I can may time out randomly (I'm behind a router > running DD-WRT, so maybe it's related to the problem Jon Schewe posted > about) and when that happens, I have to start the encode over (this is > especially frustrating when doing a 3-hour event from a BD or 1080i TV > cap). Adding & to the end of my command has two problems. First, the > constantly updated status line with percent finished and other important > information is still written to the terminal and covers up any commands > I type as well as any output a command gives. Second, this does not > prevent MEncoder from stopping if I time out anyway. I find that the > only way to prevent MEncoder from stopping is to add & to the command > and exit the terminal. My script with MEncoder will still run in the > background whether I'm connected or not, but I then have no way to see > the status line again. Ideally, I want to reattach the status line to a > terminal so I can see it and then detach it and send it back into the > background. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From pjcrump at bitstream.net Sun May 23 21:21:19 2010 From: pjcrump at bitstream.net (PJ Crump) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:21:19 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Assistance with Dual Booting Message-ID: <4BF9E29F.1000504@bitstream.net> I have a perfectly fine Ubuntu installation and I need to dual boot with Windows 7. So what I want to do is install Win7 on a new hard drive and from the hours of googling I have been doing, I have not found a consistent way of doing this. (most directions point to doing it on the same HD and I see some vague references to issues with Win7 having dual boot problems) Has anyone done this and have some directions that they can share?? Thanks in adv. From aristophrenic at warpmail.net Sun May 23 21:40:51 2010 From: aristophrenic at warpmail.net (Isaac Atilano) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:40:51 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Assistance with Dual Booting In-Reply-To: <4BF9E29F.1000504@bitstream.net> References: <4BF9E29F.1000504@bitstream.net> Message-ID: <1274668851.28658.1376539083@webmail.messagingengine.com> My experience with Windows is that it needs to be installed on the primary disk. In order to install it on a secondary drive, I first hooked up the new disk as primary. I then installed Windows on it. Afterward, I made the disk secondary and in Grub did a drive mapping to make Windows think it was on the primary disk. My experience was with Windows XP so I don't know if things are different with Windows 7. My Windows entry in grub.conf: title Windows Bootloader map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader +1 ----- Original message ----- From: "PJ Crump" To: "TCLUG List" Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:21:19 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Assistance with Dual Booting I have a perfectly fine Ubuntu installation and I need to dual boot with Windows 7. So what I want to do is install Win7 on a new hard drive and from the hours of googling I have been doing, I have not found a consistent way of doing this. (most directions point to doing it on the same HD and I see some vague references to issues with Win7 having dual boot problems) Has anyone done this and have some directions that they can share?? Thanks in adv. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From bahamutzero8825 at gmail.com Sun May 23 23:02:18 2010 From: bahamutzero8825 at gmail.com (Andrew Berg) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 23:02:18 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Trying to put a program into the background and bring it back at will (regular method not working right for this program) In-Reply-To: References: <4BF9D62E.3070305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF9FA4A.8090005@gmail.com> On 5/23/2010 8:46 PM, Bijoy Anose wrote: > man screen Looks like screen will do exactly what I need. Thanks! From matthew at lechleider.com Mon May 24 08:33:18 2010 From: matthew at lechleider.com (Matthew Lechleider) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:33:18 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] DrupalCamp Chicago 2010: June 26-27 Message-ID: <4BFA801E.6080803@lechleider.com> CDMUG is proud to present our 3rd annual DrupalCamp Chicago Saturday and Sunday, June 26th and 27th, 2010! Register @ http://drupalcampchicago.org Price: $40.00 Where/When: University of Chicago Law School 1111 East 60th Street Chicago, IL 60637-2776 Saturday, June 26th, 2010, 8 am - 5 pm Sunday, June 27th, 2010, 8 am - 5 pm Who/Why: For almost 4 years the Chicago Drupal Meet Up Group has highlighted the benefits of an open source initiative. We have built resourceful bridges between Chicago and Mid-West establishments including non-profits, entrepreneurs, Drupal development companies, independent consultants, hobbyist, and more. The objective of DrupalCamp is to bring everyone together for open communication, education, industry networking, and most importantly fun. What: An attendee-driven format with advanced resources available makes this event unique. Need help with a problem, looking for work, or looking to hire Drupal talent? Find someone with a solution at DrupalCamp Chicago. Multiple presentations addressing beginners through advanced developers will run simultaneously throughout both days. All skill levels are welcome and laptops are encouraged. Seating is limited, register now. Speakers: * Interested in presenting? Submit a session * Highlight your Drupal knowledge to the mid-west * Share your experience and contribute to the growth of Drupal Register today @ http://drupalcampchicago.org ! Not able to make it to DrupalCamp? Don't worry, CDMUG has events every month. If new to Drupal, we encourage you to attend our free introduction to Drupal training each month. In addition, we have a regular meeting with presentations each month. RSVP for our next events @ http://drupal.meetup.com/1 - Matthew at Lechleider.com CDMUG Organizer http://cdmug.org http://drupal.meetup.com/1 http://twitter.com/cdmug http://groups.drupal.org/Chicago http://drupalcampchicago.org From admin at lctn.org Mon May 24 14:08:46 2010 From: admin at lctn.org (Raymond Norton) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:08:46 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Freeradius support resource Message-ID: <4BFACEBE.5040304@lctn.org> Anyone know of an economical resource that provides support services to get Freeradius and LDAP working together (Open Directory on MAC server)? Raymond From bijoy.anose at gmail.com Mon May 24 14:22:11 2010 From: bijoy.anose at gmail.com (Bijoy Anose) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:22:11 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Trying to put a program into the background and bring it back at will (regular method not working right for this program) In-Reply-To: <4BF9FA4A.8090005@gmail.com> References: <4BF9D62E.3070305@gmail.com> <4BF9FA4A.8090005@gmail.com> Message-ID: You bet. That little utility has been a lifesaver for me many, many times. I don't use it very often, but it sure comes in handy in specific situations. Last time I used it, it was to do something odd, like keeping an ssh tunnel open, to work around a firewall restriction. There were probably other ways to accomplish the same thing, but it worked great. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 5/23/2010 8:46 PM, Bijoy Anose wrote: >> man screen > Looks like screen will do exactly what I need. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com Mon May 24 17:10:37 2010 From: goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com (Brian Dolan-Goecke) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:10:37 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Ubuntu 10.04 at Penguins Unbound Meeting May 29th Message-ID: <4BFAF95D.1010608@Goecke-Dolan.com> This months PenguinsUnbound.com meeting will be Saturday May 29st at TIES, 1667 Snelling Ave. N., St. Paul, MN 55108 from 10:00am to 12:00pm (See the web site http://www.penguinsunbound.com for directions and more info.) Tony Yarusso, Ubuntu LoCo Team Leader Will come and talk about Unbutu 10.04, what is new, what is exciting and what has changed Unbutu 10.04. So bring your questions and come see what is new in Ubuntu 10.04. BTW. Have you seen the new "Disk Utility" application with disk SMART information ? Hope to see you there! ==>brian. From josh at joshwelch.com Tue May 25 08:03:53 2010 From: josh at joshwelch.com (Josh Welch) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:03:53 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Freeradius support resource In-Reply-To: <4BFACEBE.5040304@lctn.org> References: <4BFACEBE.5040304@lctn.org> Message-ID: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Raymond Norton wrote: > Anyone know of an economical resource that provides support services to > get Freeradius and LDAP working together (Open Directory on MAC server)? > > > Raymond > Real Time provides a variety of consulting and support resources for Linux, I used them at a previous job and they were good to work with and competitive in pricing. Haven't dealt with them in awhile but I think they're always willing to chat about what they can do: http://real-time.com Josh From mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com Wed May 26 17:45:34 2010 From: mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com (Mark Mitchell) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:45:34 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) Message-ID: The primary tether I have to the windows partition on my lappy is my blackberry and outlook. I've done a bit of fighting with Berry, but haven't gotten close to what I need, syncing contacts, todo, and calender. I've gotten backup to work, but that's it. Has anyone here gotten it to work reliably and (semi)seamlessly? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've done a bit of fighting with Berry, but haven't gotten close to what I need, syncing contacts, todo, and calender. I've gotten backup to work, but that's it. Has anyone here gotten it to work reliably and (semi)seamlessly? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100526/0b4686e6/attachment.htm From mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com Wed May 26 19:03:46 2010 From: mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com (Mark Mitchell) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:03:46 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ------------------------------ *From:* tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Mitchell *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:46 PM *To:* tclug-list *Subject:* [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) The primary tether I have to the windows partition on my lappy is my blackberry and outlook. I've done a bit of fighting with Berry, but haven't gotten close to what I need, syncing contacts, todo, and calender. I've gotten backup to work, but that's it. Has anyone here gotten it to work reliably and (semi)seamlessly? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Justin Krejci wrote: > The best I have seen for this is to sync phone to google > calendar/contacts and then sync from google to evolution. Quick google > search yielded this example > http://forums.opensuse.org/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/4190 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> 72-howto-blackberry-contacts-sync-evolution.html > > Unfortunately, that relies on having a data plan on the phone, which I don't have. Probably should have mentioned that in the problem statement, sorry. To preemptively answer the obvious question; "why have a blackberry with no data plan?", I wanted a phone with a real calender, and I'm too much of a tightwad to shell out for a data plan (bought the phone cheap, used). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100526/06e10746/attachment.htm From mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com Wed May 26 19:06:03 2010 From: mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com (Mark Mitchell) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:06:03 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:45:34 -0500 From: mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) The primary tether I have to the windows partition on my lappy is my blackberry and outlook. I've done a bit of fighting with Berry, but haven't gotten close to what I need, syncing contacts, todo, and calender. I've gotten backup to work, but that's it. Has anyone here gotten it to work reliably and (semi)seamlessly? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:34 PM, J Georgius wrote: > i also found this on google. > > http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/123251 > > > Yeah, that's what I was working from. I got as far as the msynctool stuff, and hoped that in the 2.5yrs since that was written, something a bit more seamless had been developed. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100526/5bd67cc8/attachment.htm From jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com Wed May 26 22:06:19 2010 From: jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com (Jeremy MountainJohnson) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:06:19 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BFDE1AB.9040909@gmail.com> Not exactly a great "clean and quick" solution, but how about running virtualbox with a small disk image of XP and Outlook? USB devices can be directed to the virtualized system with the click of button (works with every device I have). This got me natively running just Linux (and virtually Windows as needed) for the past 2 years. I don't miss the dual booting days :-) *Jeremy MountainJohnson* E-mail: Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On 05/26/2010 07:06 PM, Mark Mitchell wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:45:34 -0500 > From: mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) > > The primary tether I have to the windows partition on my lappy is my > blackberry and outlook. I've done a bit of fighting with Berry, but > haven't gotten close to what I need, syncing contacts, todo, and > calender. I've gotten backup to work, but that's it. > > Has anyone here gotten it to work reliably and (semi)seamlessly? > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:34 PM, J Georgius > wrote: > > i also found this on google. > > http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/123251 > > > Yeah, that's what I was working from. I got as far as the msynctool > stuff, and hoped that in the 2.5yrs since that was written, something > a bit more seamless had been developed. > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100526/b687f6c4/attachment-0001.htm From iipreca at hotmail.com Thu May 27 00:08:04 2010 From: iipreca at hotmail.com (J Georgius) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:08:04 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) In-Reply-To: <4BFDE1AB.9040909@gmail.com> References: , , <4BFDE1AB.9040909@gmail.com> Message-ID: That still doesnt get it into linux, but along thoes lines, if you were to create a windows CE or Bart PE virtualbox using uber small resource needs (maybe just the shell) you could share a folder from the vm to the host and run a script/program etc etc to auto sync it with Evolution or Thunderbird whatever? kind of a convoluted process but you get the idea. JG Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:06:19 -0500 From: jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) Not exactly a great "clean and quick" solution, but how about running virtualbox with a small disk image of XP and Outlook? USB devices can be directed to the virtualized system with the click of button (works with every device I have). This got me natively running just Linux (and virtually Windows as needed) for the past 2 years. I don't miss the dual booting days :-) Jeremy MountainJohnson E-mail: Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com On 05/26/2010 07:06 PM, Mark Mitchell wrote: Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:45:34 -0500 From: mark.russel.mitchell at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [tclug-list] Please help me dump windows! (Linux and Blackberry) The primary tether I have to the windows partition on my lappy is my blackberry and outlook. I've done a bit of fighting with Berry, but haven't gotten close to what I need, syncing contacts, todo, and calender. I've gotten backup to work, but that's it. Has anyone here gotten it to work reliably and (semi)seamlessly? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:34 PM, J Georgius wrote: i also found this on google. http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/123251 Yeah, that's what I was working from. I got as far as the msynctool stuff, and hoped that in the 2.5yrs since that was written, something a bit more seamless had been developed. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100527/40103f42/attachment.htm From kc0iog at gmail.com Thu May 27 09:41:16 2010 From: kc0iog at gmail.com (Brian Wall) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:41:16 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Xorg config (or lack of) Message-ID: Fellow geeks, I've been tinkering around with Ubuntu. By default, Ubuntu's (any modern distro applies, really) Xorg runs without a config file. Presumably, it detects all your hardware on the fly and amazingly it does a good job (compare that to XFree 3.x... yuck!) Problems arise when the box can't detect the hardware. For instance, running thorugh a KVM switch. Now instead of detecting my Dell flat panel and pushing 1280x1024, I get a measly 800x600 and no option to change it. What I would like to do is set up Ubuntu running against my flat panel, the way I like, and then dump the currently running config to a config file so I can force that configuration when I'm running through the KVM. Anyone know if this is possible? Alternately I fire up Knoppix, which still uses a config file and use that to start tweaking. Thanks, Brian From chrome at real-time.com Thu May 27 10:21:11 2010 From: chrome at real-time.com (Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:21:11 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Xorg config (or lack of) In-Reply-To: ; from kc0iog@gmail.com on Thu, May 27, 2010 at 09:41:16AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20100527102111.I17037@real-time.com> On 05/27 09:41 , Brian Wall wrote: > I've been tinkering around with Ubuntu. By default, Ubuntu's (any > modern distro applies, really) Xorg runs without a config file. > Presumably, it detects all your hardware on the fly and amazingly it > does a good job (compare that to XFree 3.x... yuck!) I remember that beer helped me understand XFree 3.x config files. > What I would like to do is set up Ubuntu running against > my flat panel, the way I like, and then dump the currently running > config to a config file so I can force that configuration when I'm > running through the KVM. Anyone know if this is possible? I just run Xorg -configure and modify the config file. It's been a long while since I set up a new card & monitor tho. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com From goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com Thu May 27 12:10:54 2010 From: goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com (Brian Dolan-Goecke) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 12:10:54 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Xorg config (or lack of) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BFEA79E.7020301@Goecke-Dolan.com> Had to figure that out for Ubuntu 9.10, http://www.penguinsunbound.com/User:Goeko/Ubuntu_9.10 Good luck. (Same thing mentioned earlier, just a little more detailed instructions) ==>brian. Brian Wall wrote: > Fellow geeks, > > I've been tinkering around with Ubuntu. By default, Ubuntu's (any > modern distro applies, really) Xorg runs without a config file. > Presumably, it detects all your hardware on the fly and amazingly it > does a good job (compare that to XFree 3.x... yuck!) > > Problems arise when the box can't detect the hardware. For instance, > running thorugh a KVM switch. Now instead of detecting my Dell flat > panel and pushing 1280x1024, I get a measly 800x600 and no option to > change it. What I would like to do is set up Ubuntu running against > my flat panel, the way I like, and then dump the currently running > config to a config file so I can force that configuration when I'm > running through the KVM. Anyone know if this is possible? > > Alternately I fire up Knoppix, which still uses a config file and use > that to start tweaking. > > Thanks, > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From tonyyarusso at gmail.com Thu May 27 14:34:45 2010 From: tonyyarusso at gmail.com (Tony Yarusso) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:34:45 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Xorg config (or lack of) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can also do it through a series of xrandr commands. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution have some notes about this, including a mention of the specific KVM problem. (I have the same issue.) - Tony Yarusso From goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com Thu May 27 22:56:47 2010 From: goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com (Brian Dolan-Goecke) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 22:56:47 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] * Saturday * Ubuntu 10.04 at Penguins Unbound Meeting May 29th Message-ID: <4BFF3EFF.1080408@Goecke-Dolan.com> This months PenguinsUnbound.com meeting will be Saturday May 29st at TIES, 1667 Snelling Ave. N., St. Paul, MN 55108 from 10:00am to 12:00pm (See the web site http://www.penguinsunbound.com for directions and more info.) Tony Yarusso, Ubuntu LoCo Team Leader Will come and talk about Unbutu 10.04, what is new, what is exciting and what has changed Unbutu 10.04. So bring your questions and come see what is new in Ubuntu 10.04. Hope to see you there! ==>brian. From jjensen at apache.org Fri May 28 08:02:06 2010 From: jjensen at apache.org (Jeff Jensen) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:02:06 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages Message-ID: <00ad01cafe65$ff68a300$fe39e900$@org> To my old backup server (running BackupPC), I recently added a PCI SATA card and 1TB drive, and installed Fedora 13 (and removed 2 IDE smaller drives; the boot drive is still an older IDE 40G; was running Fedora 11). Messages log regularly has this set of messages, much more frequent when the backup is running: May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: BMDMA stat 0x44 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: failed command: WRITE DMA May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: cmd ca/00:c0:4f:8c:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 dma 98304 out May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: res 51/84:00:0e:8d:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error) May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: status: { DRDY ERR } May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: error: { ICRC ABRT } May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: soft resetting link May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: configured for PIO4 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: EH complete I've googled various words from the messages, but what I find are CD drive related messages and "now it takes longer to boot, so change modprobe" type things. I think mine is related to the new drive (just a hint from the "ATA bus error" and 'ata' all over the messages ;-), possibly harmless messages or maybe a SATA card config or compatibility problem(?). I'm surprised they keep repeating - if it was just a config error, I would think it would adjust once (maybe at boot) and then be done. Can anyone point me to an RTFM or hints how to research/what is the cause pretty-please?! From jjensen at apache.org Fri May 28 08:19:33 2010 From: jjensen at apache.org (Jeff Jensen) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:19:33 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages Message-ID: <00b301cafe68$6dddb260$49991720$@org> Searching through the last boot log (trying to determine what is ata2), I see: For the old 40G: ata2.00: ATAPI: CRD-8400B, 1.04, max UDMA/33 ata2.00: configured for PIO4 ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA ata2.01: 78165360 sectors, multi 16: LBA ata2.01: ATA-5: WDC WD400BB-00CLB0, 05.04E05, max UDMA/100 ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 For the new 1TB: ata6.00: ATA-8: WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1, 05.00K05, max UDMA/133 ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133 ata6: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio m1048576 at 0xf4100000 port 0xf4128000 irq 5 It looks like ata1 & ata2 are the IDEs and ata3-ata6 are the new SATA card (?). So perhaps these messages are potential drive failure ones? -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Jensen [mailto:jjensen at apache.org] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:02 AM To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' Subject: ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages To my old backup server (running BackupPC), I recently added a PCI SATA card and 1TB drive, and installed Fedora 13 (and removed 2 IDE smaller drives; the boot drive is still an older IDE 40G; was running Fedora 11). Messages log regularly has this set of messages, much more frequent when the backup is running: May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: BMDMA stat 0x44 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: failed command: WRITE DMA May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: cmd ca/00:c0:4f:8c:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 dma 98304 out May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: res 51/84:00:0e:8d:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error) May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: status: { DRDY ERR } May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: error: { ICRC ABRT } May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: soft resetting link May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: configured for PIO4 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: EH complete I've googled various words from the messages, but what I find are CD drive related messages and "now it takes longer to boot, so change modprobe" type things. I think mine is related to the new drive (just a hint from the "ATA bus error" and 'ata' all over the messages ;-), possibly harmless messages or maybe a SATA card config or compatibility problem(?). I'm surprised they keep repeating - if it was just a config error, I would think it would adjust once (maybe at boot) and then be done. Can anyone point me to an RTFM or hints how to research/what is the cause pretty-please?! From nesius at gmail.com Fri May 28 09:38:42 2010 From: nesius at gmail.com (Robert Nesius) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:38:42 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages In-Reply-To: <00b301cafe68$6dddb260$49991720$@org> References: <00b301cafe68$6dddb260$49991720$@org> Message-ID: I don't have a silver-bullet solution/root-cause for you, but to me this looks like an issue with your newer kernel and drivers running against your older chipset and drives. It seems the kernel is not wanting to use Direct Memory Access when talking to ATA (IDE) drives. Here is a link to a thread that has a suggestion for configuring the kernel to use a legacy mode when interacting with them, if I read it right. And user Kane indicated specifying an irqpoll parameter also did the trick for him. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=332907 -Rob On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Jeff Jensen wrote: > Searching through the last boot log (trying to determine what is ata2), I > see: > > For the old 40G: > ata2.00: ATAPI: CRD-8400B, 1.04, max UDMA/33 > ata2.00: configured for PIO4 > ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA > ata2.01: 78165360 sectors, multi 16: LBA > ata2.01: ATA-5: WDC WD400BB-00CLB0, 05.04E05, max UDMA/100 > ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 > > For the new 1TB: > ata6.00: ATA-8: WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1, 05.00K05, max UDMA/133 > ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133 > ata6: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) > ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio m1048576 at 0xf4100000 port 0xf4128000 irq 5 > > > It looks like ata1 & ata2 are the IDEs and ata3-ata6 are the new SATA card > (?). So perhaps these messages are potential drive failure ones? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Jensen [mailto:jjensen at apache.org] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:02 AM > To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' > Subject: ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages > > To my old backup server (running BackupPC), I recently added a PCI SATA > card > and 1TB drive, and installed Fedora 13 (and removed 2 IDE smaller drives; > the boot drive is still an older IDE 40G; was running Fedora 11). Messages > log regularly has this set of messages, much more frequent when the backup > is running: > > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr > 0x0 > action 0x6 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: BMDMA stat 0x44 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: failed command: WRITE DMA > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: cmd > ca/00:c0:4f:8c:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 dma 98304 out > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: res > 51/84:00:0e:8d:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error) > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: status: { DRDY ERR } > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: error: { ICRC ABRT } > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: soft resetting link > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, > disabling > DMA > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: configured for PIO4 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: EH complete > > I've googled various words from the messages, but what I find are CD drive > related messages and "now it takes longer to boot, so change modprobe" type > things. I think mine is related to the new drive (just a hint from the > "ATA > bus error" and 'ata' all over the messages ;-), possibly harmless messages > or maybe a SATA card config or compatibility problem(?). I'm surprised > they > keep repeating - if it was just a config error, I would think it would > adjust once (maybe at boot) and then be done. > > Can anyone point me to an RTFM or hints how to research/what is the cause > pretty-please?! > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These will help you find and identify yourself to your fellow Slackware users. :-) Order inquiries (including questions about becoming a Slackware reseller) may be directed to this address: info at slackware.com Have fun! :^) I hope you find Slackware to be useful, and thanks very much for your support of this project over the years. --- Patrick J. Volkerding Visit us on the web at: http://slackware.com From bahamutzero8825 at gmail.com Sat May 29 05:08:24 2010 From: bahamutzero8825 at gmail.com (Andrew Berg) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 05:08:24 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Need help running a user process and its children with a negative nice value Message-ID: <4C00E798.3030601@gmail.com> I have a shell script I want to run with a negative nice value (along with all the child processes it spawns), but I don't want to run it as root or let my user assign negative nice values with nice without being prompted for the root password. Ideally, I want to run an arbitrary program, be prompted for the root password, and then have that process and its children run as the logged in user with a given nice value (if the root password given is correct of course). From ove at happylilypad.com Thu May 27 10:14:52 2010 From: ove at happylilypad.com (Ove Lilja) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:14:52 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Xorg config (or lack of) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BFE8C6C.4010002@happylilypad.com> I guess you should bypass the KVM switch for this and hook the monitor directly to the computer. Then, a Xorg -configure should create a file in your current working directory. > -configure When this option is specified, the Xorg server loads all > video driver modules, probes for available hardware, and writes out > an initial xorg.conf(5) file based on what was detected. This option > currently has some problems on some platforms, but in most cases it > is a good way to bootstrap the configuration process. This option > is only available when the server is run as root (i.e, with real-uid > 0). Then I assume you should be able to modify the resolution to your liking. Additional good reading at: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Step_3:_Configure_X_.28Optional.29 Hope that helps. -Ove- On 05/27/2010 09:41 AM, Brian Wall wrote: > Fellow geeks, > > I've been tinkering around with Ubuntu. By default, Ubuntu's (any > modern distro applies, really) Xorg runs without a config file. > Presumably, it detects all your hardware on the fly and amazingly it > does a good job (compare that to XFree 3.x... yuck!) > > Problems arise when the box can't detect the hardware. For > instance, running thorugh a KVM switch. Now instead of detecting my > Dell flat panel and pushing 1280x1024, I get a measly 800x600 and no > option to change it. What I would like to do is set up Ubuntu > running against my flat panel, the way I like, and then dump the > currently running config to a config file so I can force that > configuration when I'm running through the KVM. Anyone know if this > is possible? > > Alternately I fire up Knoppix, which still uses a config file and > use that to start tweaking. > > Thanks, Brian > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From kc0iog at gmail.com Sat May 29 12:51:20 2010 From: kc0iog at gmail.com (Brian Wall) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:51:20 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] Xorg config (or lack of) In-Reply-To: <20100527102111.I17037@real-time.com> References: <20100527102111.I17037@real-time.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > I just run Xorg -configure and modify the config file. It's been a long > while since I set up a new card & monitor tho. Xorg -configure indeed gave me a new config file, however I was thrown off because: # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new starts X with no output of any kind. To confirm it really worked, I copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and just issued an 'xinit'. Worked like a charm. Thanks for the help everyone. Call me old school, but I REALLY miss xf86config. Brian From marc at e-skinner.net Sun May 30 13:03:49 2010 From: marc at e-skinner.net (Marc Skinner) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 13:03:49 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages In-Reply-To: <00b301cafe68$6dddb260$49991720$@org> References: <00b301cafe68$6dddb260$49991720$@org> Message-ID: <4C02A885.6020203@e-skinner.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What does smartctl -H /dev/sd* say - ie: * would be a,b, or c. or if its /dev/hd* do that as well. That should give you the health of the disks. On 05/28/2010 08:19 AM, Jeff Jensen wrote: > Searching through the last boot log (trying to determine what is ata2), I > see: > > For the old 40G: > ata2.00: ATAPI: CRD-8400B, 1.04, max UDMA/33 > ata2.00: configured for PIO4 > ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA > ata2.01: 78165360 sectors, multi 16: LBA > ata2.01: ATA-5: WDC WD400BB-00CLB0, 05.04E05, max UDMA/100 > ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 > > For the new 1TB: > ata6.00: ATA-8: WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1, 05.00K05, max UDMA/133 > ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133 > ata6: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) > ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio m1048576 at 0xf4100000 port 0xf4128000 irq 5 > > > It looks like ata1 & ata2 are the IDEs and ata3-ata6 are the new SATA card > (?). So perhaps these messages are potential drive failure ones? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Jensen [mailto:jjensen at apache.org] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:02 AM > To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' > Subject: ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages > > To my old backup server (running BackupPC), I recently added a PCI SATA card > and 1TB drive, and installed Fedora 13 (and removed 2 IDE smaller drives; > the boot drive is still an older IDE 40G; was running Fedora 11). Messages > log regularly has this set of messages, much more frequent when the backup > is running: > > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 > action 0x6 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: BMDMA stat 0x44 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: failed command: WRITE DMA > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: cmd > ca/00:c0:4f:8c:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 dma 98304 out > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: res > 51/84:00:0e:8d:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error) > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: status: { DRDY ERR } > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: error: { ICRC ABRT } > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: soft resetting link > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling > DMA > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: configured for PIO4 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 > May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: EH complete > > I've googled various words from the messages, but what I find are CD drive > related messages and "now it takes longer to boot, so change modprobe" type > things. I think mine is related to the new drive (just a hint from the "ATA > bus error" and 'ata' all over the messages ;-), possibly harmless messages > or maybe a SATA card config or compatibility problem(?). I'm surprised they > keep repeating - if it was just a config error, I would think it would > adjust once (maybe at boot) and then be done. > > Can anyone point me to an RTFM or hints how to research/what is the cause > pretty-please?! > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwCqIUACgkQvE9HrEfeE4eb+gCePQNE1A+Z8akN7NqWLER4522n R44AmgLd2KEGDuKvGBjNCNY8YpHrgCk+ =Dai7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jjensen at apache.org Sun May 30 13:36:37 2010 From: jjensen at apache.org (Jeff Jensen) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 13:36:37 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages In-Reply-To: References: <00b301cafe68$6dddb260$49991720$@org> Message-ID: <000401cb0027$0ec66a40$2c533ec0$@org> Thanks Rob. That?s an interesting thread. I?ll look into that param and google around for similar. From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Robert Nesius Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:39 AM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages I don't have a silver-bullet solution/root-cause for you, but to me this looks like an issue with your newer kernel and drivers running against your older chipset and drives. It seems the kernel is not wanting to use Direct Memory Access when talking to ATA (IDE) drives. Here is a link to a thread that has a suggestion for configuring the kernel to use a legacy mode when interacting with them, if I read it right. And user Kane indicated specifying an irqpoll parameter also did the trick for him. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=332907 -Rob On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Jeff Jensen wrote: Searching through the last boot log (trying to determine what is ata2), I see: For the old 40G: ata2.00: ATAPI: CRD-8400B, 1.04, max UDMA/33 ata2.00: configured for PIO4 ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA ata2.01: 78165360 sectors, multi 16: LBA ata2.01: ATA-5: WDC WD400BB-00CLB0, 05.04E05, max UDMA/100 ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 For the new 1TB: ata6.00: ATA-8: WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1, 05.00K05, max UDMA/133 ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133 ata6: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio m1048576 at 0xf4100000 port 0xf4128000 irq 5 It looks like ata1 & ata2 are the IDEs and ata3-ata6 are the new SATA card (?). So perhaps these messages are potential drive failure ones? -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Jensen [mailto:jjensen at apache.org] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:02 AM To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' Subject: ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages To my old backup server (running BackupPC), I recently added a PCI SATA card and 1TB drive, and installed Fedora 13 (and removed 2 IDE smaller drives; the boot drive is still an older IDE 40G; was running Fedora 11). Messages log regularly has this set of messages, much more frequent when the backup is running: May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: BMDMA stat 0x44 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: failed command: WRITE DMA May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: cmd ca/00:c0:4f:8c:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 dma 98304 out May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: res 51/84:00:0e:8d:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error) May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: status: { DRDY ERR } May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: error: { ICRC ABRT } May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: soft resetting link May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: configured for PIO4 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: EH complete I've googled various words from the messages, but what I find are CD drive related messages and "now it takes longer to boot, so change modprobe" type things. I think mine is related to the new drive (just a hint from the "ATA bus error" and 'ata' all over the messages ;-), possibly harmless messages or maybe a SATA card config or compatibility problem(?). I'm surprised they keep repeating - if it was just a config error, I would think it would adjust once (maybe at boot) and then be done. Can anyone point me to an RTFM or hints how to research/what is the cause pretty-please?! _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20100530/68aba04e/attachment.htm From jjensen at apache.org Sun May 30 14:36:51 2010 From: jjensen at apache.org (Jeff Jensen) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 14:36:51 -0500 Subject: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages In-Reply-To: <4C02BB6B.9020605@e-skinner.net> References: <00b301cafe68$6dddb260$49991720$@org> <4C02A885.6020203@e-skinner.net> <000901cb0027$95d993e0$c18cbba0$@org> <4C02BB6B.9020605@e-skinner.net> Message-ID: <001001cb002f$7a9a0c10$6fce2430$@org> My main server has 4 WD 1 TB drives in RAID 5, and within its first 2 months there were a number of errors on one drive. Western Digital RMA'd it with zero hassle (just fill out the web form), even shipped me the new one first. With a new setup I was happy to swap it right away. I need to dig into the potential kernel issue that Rob pointed out... -----Original Message----- From: Marc Skinner [mailto:marc at e-skinner.net] Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 2:24 PM To: Jeff Jensen Subject: Re: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have the same thing happing to 2 of my 3 1.5TB drives in my workstation. They are in a RAID5 setup, so I'm just hoping they don't both die at the same time. But yes, your right, at some point if the disk continues to fail and you get reallocated sector errors the OS will mark the drive as bad and not use it. I have been running mine with a couple of reallocated sector errors for almost 2 years. They may never get any worse - and then again, they could fail tomorrow. I have Seagates, which have a 5 year warranty, so I'm fine with just waiting for them to die. Good luck. On 05/30/2010 01:40 PM, Jeff Jensen wrote: > Thanks Marc. sda & sdb say "passed". > > I've used the "Disk Utility" and the self test of the disk completed OK. > The details though show "Reallocated sector count" of 1. > > The machine/drive seems to work fine, but I understand that the rise of > reallocated sectors means it is on its way to failure. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Skinner [mailto:marc at e-skinner.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:04 PM > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Cc: Jeff Jensen > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" > messages > > What does smartctl -H /dev/sd* say - ie: * would be a,b, or c. or if > its /dev/hd* do that as well. > > That should give you the health of the disks. > > > On 05/28/2010 08:19 AM, Jeff Jensen wrote: >> Searching through the last boot log (trying to determine what is ata2), I >> see: > >> For the old 40G: >> ata2.00: ATAPI: CRD-8400B, 1.04, max UDMA/33 >> ata2.00: configured for PIO4 >> ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, disabling DMA >> ata2.01: 78165360 sectors, multi 16: LBA >> ata2.01: ATA-5: WDC WD400BB-00CLB0, 05.04E05, max UDMA/100 >> ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 > >> For the new 1TB: >> ata6.00: ATA-8: WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1, 05.00K05, max UDMA/133 >> ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133 >> ata6: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300) >> ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio m1048576 at 0xf4100000 port 0xf4128000 irq 5 > > >> It looks like ata1 & ata2 are the IDEs and ata3-ata6 are the new SATA card >> (?). So perhaps these messages are potential drive failure ones? > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jeff Jensen [mailto:jjensen at apache.org] >> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:02 AM >> To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' >> Subject: ata "failed command: WRITE DMA", "ATA bus error" messages > >> To my old backup server (running BackupPC), I recently added a PCI SATA > card >> and 1TB drive, and installed Fedora 13 (and removed 2 IDE smaller drives; >> the boot drive is still an older IDE 40G; was running Fedora 11). > Messages >> log regularly has this set of messages, much more frequent when the backup >> is running: > >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr > 0x0 >> action 0x6 >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: BMDMA stat 0x44 >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: failed command: WRITE DMA >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: cmd >> ca/00:c0:4f:8c:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 dma 98304 out >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: res >> 51/84:00:0e:8d:1a/00:00:00:00:00/f0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error) >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: status: { DRDY ERR } >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: error: { ICRC ABRT } >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: soft resetting link >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: device is on DMA blacklist, > disabling >> DMA >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.00: configured for PIO4 >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33 >> May 28 06:49:38 nacho kernel: ata2: EH complete > >> I've googled various words from the messages, but what I find are CD drive >> related messages and "now it takes longer to boot, so change modprobe" > type >> things. I think mine is related to the new drive (just a hint from the > "ATA >> bus error" and 'ata' all over the messages ;-), possibly harmless messages >> or maybe a SATA card config or compatibility problem(?). I'm surprised > they >> keep repeating - if it was just a config error, I would think it would >> adjust once (maybe at boot) and then be done. > >> Can anyone point me to an RTFM or hints how to research/what is the cause >> pretty-please?! > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwCu2sACgkQvE9HrEfeE4clSQCeLuHcpgIYr+gefCDDgfP2umLC xu8AoOjnftaJC+BYHEWDukeyZIeG0TSn =guCK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----