So I'm finally breaking down and going to get myself a new desktop machine, because Youtube is unusable on a 1.1GHz K7, and Gmail is pretty doggy sometimes when editing. Thing is, I don't have a clue what's good hardware on the market these days. I figured I'd start with a case and go from there; but perhaps I'm being backward and should start with a CPU and narrow down my choices that way. I'd really like a nice big case with lots of room to work in; ideally very quiet. I've been using a Yeong Yang YY-022 for the past 10 years or so; it's a scaled-down version of a double-wide server case. Looks like a black cube-ish thing about 13"x13"x16". It's a bit of a pain to route cables tho; so I'd be happy enough to go back to a conventional layout. Anyone have any good experiences with cases they want to relate? Any good advice on which CPU is at the sweet price point these days? In case you didn't know, I'm not physically in the Twin Cities area (I'm in New Hampshire) so telling me to go down to Tran Micro is not useful. :) -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com