On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chuck Cole wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org
>> [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Mike Miller
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:01 PM
>>
>> Emacs is better.  Actually, and this is true, emacs was written at MIT 
>> where they had more computing power and better networking.  vi was 
>> written for slow networks and that was the reason for the awkward way 
>> that it works.  I read that in an article by Bill Joy, author of vi.
>
> IIRC, vi was used when "networks" were typically accessed in-house or 
> remotely by 10 character-per-second mechanical teletypes.  Emacs was 
> developed much later, and after megabit/sec in-house nets and CRT dumb 
> terminals were common.


300 baud, actually.  You can read the relevant part of the 1999 interview 
here:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/09/11/bill_joys_greatest_gift/


Here's an interview with Joy from 1984:

http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~kirkenda/joy84.html

The bit about vi being free and "EMACS" costing hundreds of dollars is 
interesting.  I remember that you could order EMACS on tapes.


You get the impression that Joy liked emacs better than he liked vi and he 
thought vi was passé even in 1999: "People don't know that vi was written 
for a world that doesn't exist anymore."

I know that you can make vim do good things, and the syntax highlighting 
looks nice, and I get that vi is on all UNIX/Linux systems and therefore 
useful in a clinch, but I don't see why people argue that vi/vim/gvim is 
better than emacs.  I think those people are just really good with vim and 
not so good with emacs, so vim seems better to them.

Mike