Ruby on Rails lets you build database-driven websites very quickly. They also have awesome plugins. HAML is a good html replacement. I use it in Rails, but I believe it works standalone too. It replaces html with indented tags that don't need to be closed (so half as many lines of html), plus other nice stuff. I would never go back. They also have a ton of plugins for everything from shopping carts to state machines. But it's not a CMS. You have to write some code to hook it all together. It's well suited for custom development. It be OT, but I could give a demo of Rails at the next meeting if there was interest. PHP and Python are good too, depending on what you're trying to do. Jeremy On Monday 26 January 2009 10:23:40 pm John Gateley wrote: > Hi Y'all, > > There was a recent thread in tclug-jobs about web design that > reminded me this is a skill sorely lacking in my toolset. My > web design until now has been raw text files edited with emacs > (and I'm not even sure if emacs has a html-mode). > > I don't expect to produce high quality web sites, but I'd like > to do more than my hand coded html can achieve. What are good > tools? > > Even though this is tclug, I'm OS agnostic and if you have a > favorite mac/windows tool, throw it in the mix please. > > j > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20090126/cffcb6fe/attachment.htm