Anyone that looks can see I am sending this from a Windoze machine, but thats just because I choose to do email from there via Thunderbird. Anyway, you guys have a chance to go meet Richard. Thats great! He's just a man, but he has influenced computing or computer using as we know it. Go see the man, hear what he has to say. Name of the user group I would be reluctant to change just for this one occasion, but WTH, we can always change it back if thats the case. What I was shooting for was this. RMS is a man that has a history and will be associated with computer users in one way or another for some time. But I think that love him, hate him, whatever.. You guys should look at this as a chance to get to know him, and maybe influence him as well. If nothing else you can tell your kids you met him and bent his ear. Thats probably 3 cents worth, can give change if needed:) RS