Can anyone please explain to me in detail how to install a .bin file with Ubuntu 7.10? Danny J. On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 00:31 -0600, tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org wrote: > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: lost virtual consoles (p.daniels) > 2. New TCLUG Classified Ad (TCLUG Classifieds) > 3. Install Linux on your Old PowerPC Mac - Topic > @PenguinsUnbound Linux Meeting Jan 26, 2008 (Brian Dolan-Goecke) > 4. Re: Install Linux on your Old PowerPC Mac - Topic > @PenguinsUnbound Linux Meeting Jan 26, 2008 (Jima) > 5. Perl decrement question (rhubarbpie at poetworld.net) > 6. Re: Perl decrement question (Elvedin Trnjanin) > 7. tcsa meeting (Chris Gloege) > 8. Re: Perl decrement question (Leif Johnson) > 9. Re: don't order from Aztekcomputers (Munir Nassar) > 10. Re: Perl decrement question (Mike Miller) > 11. Re: don't order from Aztekcomputers (Mike Miller) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:17:01 -0600 > From: "p.daniels" <teeahr1 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] lost virtual consoles > To: TCLUG <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: <200801171317.01408.TeeAhr1 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Wednesday January 16 2008 16:00:16 I wrote: > > Tony, that link was very enlightening. Those are pretty much my exact > > symptoms. I will do some more poking in that direction when I return > > home and report my findings. > > > > Thanks again to all. > > > > -pd- > > Well, I tried a few of the suggested fixes in the ubuntuforums thread linked > to from the bug you pointed me to. Specifically, I enabled fbcon and vesafb > in my /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file and unblacklisted vesafb > in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffers. No joy. > > Then it occurred to (stupid old) me that I'm seeing boot messages when I start > up, but not when I shut down (the monitor goes to sleep as soon as KDE > stops). Ergo, it seems to me that it's not until KDM starts that I lose my > other consoles. > > I noticed in my kdm.log the line "(EE) intel(0): I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed > 0" Might that be related? > > -pd- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:28:48 -0600 > From: TCLUG Classifieds <webmaster at mn-linux.org> > Subject: [tclug-list] New TCLUG Classified Ad > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <200801172028.m0HKSmn02127 at crusader.real-time.com> > > New TCLUG Classified Ad > > Category: Computer > > Type of Ad: For Sale > > Subject: cheap pc parts > > time to thin the herd again.... > > --barebones midtower atx case, amd XP 200+ (1650mhz), 52x cdrom, elitegroup mobo w/ on board video, snd, nic., floppy...$40 > > 32mb pc??? free w/ other purchase > 64mb pc100/133 $0.25each > 64mb pc100 ecc dimm sdram...$1each > 128mb pc100 $1each > 128mb pc133 $1.5each > 128mb pc2100 $2 > 128mb pc100 ecc dimm sdram...$2each > 256mb pc2 3200 $3 > 64mb RIMM (600-53-101 mr16r0824bn1-cg6) (pair is 128mb upgrade kit)...$10 > RIMM terminators...free w/ purchase > 256mb RIMM (800-45-100 16/ecc kmmr18rgac1-rk8)....$5 (i only have one!!) > pc2 3200 ddr 256mb sodimm (NOTEBOOK)...$8 > ddr 2100 256mb sodimm (NOTEBOOK)...$8each > 512mb ecc pc133 168pin...$20 > 256mb ecc pc133 168pin...$15each > I also have a few 72pin 16mb, 32mb, 64mb ram > > AMD Athlon 950mhz socket A/462..$2 > Intel socket 370 PIII 866mhz 133mhz bus processors...$3each > Intel socket 370 pIII 1000mhz 133mhz bus processors...$4each > Intel socket 370 pIII 1200mhz celeron processor...$5 > Intel celeron 1600mhz processor...$5 > Intel pIV 1500mhz...$10 > Intel celeron 1800mhz processor (a few bent pins)...$2each > > PCI 4 channel sound card, csdx hsp56 cm18738..$5each > Via based pci USB card vt83c572..$2 > D-link 530tx+ pci 10/100 network card New In Box...$5each > SMC 1211tx pci 10/100 network card New In Box...$5 > 3D labs wildcat 5110 64mb video card..$5 > Adaptec 131u2 scsi raid card..$2 > > > Seller Email address: jungle at hickorytech dot net > > http://www.mn-linux.org/cgi-bin/classifieds/index.cgi > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:59:56 -0600 > From: Brian Dolan-Goecke <goeko at Goecke-Dolan.com> > Subject: [tclug-list] Install Linux on your Old PowerPC Mac - Topic > @PenguinsUnbound Linux Meeting Jan 26, 2008 > To: tclug-announce <tclug-announce at mn-linux.org>, Chris Oxenreider > <oxenreid at state.net>, John Kuster <jrkbiz at sihope.com>, Dan Boehlke > <dan.boehlke at ties.k12.mn.us>, tclug-list <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>, > Wynn Hagemeyer <wynn at tux4pres.com>, Rick Meyerhoff > <rick3104 at gmail.com>, "Bob W. Anderson" <bobdove at isp.com> > Message-ID: <478FDDEC.9060205 at Goecke-Dolan.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > This months PenguinsUnbound.net meeting will be Saturday January 26, > 2008 at TIES, > 1667 Snelling Ave. N., St. Paul, MN 55108 > from 10:00 to 12:00. > (See the web site http://www.penguinsunbound.com/Location_for_Meetings > for directions and more info.) > > I will be install Linux Ubuntu 7.10 on a Power PC Mac. So bring your > old Mac (and your questions) and we will install Linux on it! > > http://www.penguinsunbound.com/Future_Meetings/20080126 > > Thanks, hope to see you there. > > ==>brian. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:19:57 -0600 (CST) > From: Jima <jima at beer.tclug.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Install Linux on your Old PowerPC Mac - > Topic @PenguinsUnbound Linux Meeting Jan 26, 2008 > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801171819050.17671 at beer.tclug.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > (Oops, meant to reply to tclug-list, not tclug-announce.) > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Brian Dolan-Goecke wrote: > > I will be install Linux Ubuntu 7.10 on a Power PC Mac. So bring your > > old Mac (and your questions) and we will install Linux on it! > > Just how old are we talking? B&W G3? Beige G3? 6400? *6100*? Pretty > vague. :-) > (Sadly, I think I still have every one of those...some of which are still > happily running Linux.) > > Jima > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:47:36 -0600 > From: rhubarbpie at poetworld.net > Subject: [tclug-list] Perl decrement question > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <47901348.7070302 at poetworld.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > I'm a Perl novice and hope this is a proper channel for a simple > question. Why does the following decrement incorrectly below 10? It > works with $i -- or $i -= .5. This is part of a larger script and I've > made a workaround, but I'm still curious. > > use Math::Complex; > > for ($i = 13; $i >= 1; $i -= .1) { > print"$i\n"; > } > > 11 > 10.9 > 10.8 > 10.7 > 10.6 > 10.5 > 10.4 > 10.3 > 10.2 > 10.1 > 10 > 9.90000000000001 > 9.80000000000001 > 9.70000000000001 > 9.60000000000001 > 9.50000000000001 > 9.40000000000001 > 9.30000000000001 > 9.20000000000001 > 9.10000000000001 > 9.00000000000001 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:33:30 -0600 > From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Perl decrement question > To: rhubarbpie at poetworld.net > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <47901E0A.6040208 at umn.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > rhubarbpie at poetworld.net wrote: > > I'm a Perl novice and hope this is a proper channel for a simple > > question. Why does the following decrement incorrectly below 10? It > > works with $i -- or $i -= .5. This is part of a larger script and I've > > made a workaround, but I'm still curious. > > > Start $i from 100 and you'll notice that it happens for numbers greater > than 10. The reason for this is that certain numbers cannot be > represented accurately with the floating point representation your > computer architecture and data type use. IEEE 754 is a standard that > addresses this so try reading up on that if you're really interested. > Any who, this is even worse in C with a float. > > float i; > for (i = 13; i >= 1; i -= .1){ > printf("i equals %f\n", i); > } > > i equals 13.000000 > i equals 12.900000 > i equals 12.799999 > i equals 12.699999 > i equals 12.599998 > i equals 12.499998 > i equals 12.399998 > i equals 12.299997 > i equals 12.199997 > i equals 12.099997 > i equals 11.999996 > i equals 11.899996 > i equals 11.799995 > i equals 11.699995 > i equals 11.599995 > i equals 11.499994 > i equals 11.399994 > i equals 11.299994 > i equals 11.199993 > i equals 11.099993 > i equals 10.999992 > i equals 10.899992 > i equals 10.799992 > i equals 10.699991 > i equals 10.599991 > i equals 10.499990 > i equals 10.399990 > i equals 10.299990 > i equals 10.199989 > i equals 10.099989 > > But works perfectly with (even starting from 100) > > double i; > for (i = 13; i >= 1; i -= .1){ > printf("i equals %lf\n", i); > > Perl has a different way of representing float point numbers it seems so > look into a module that supports extra precision floats. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:42:56 -0600 > From: "Chris Gloege" <thoth.serath at gmail.com> > Subject: [tclug-list] tcsa meeting > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: > <7c055dc50801172042k29a25b8fnf7c682553af47f2e at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > wonderful meeting tonight. we (10 of us) went to fuddrucers restaurant > after. i was wondering about the website for learning c that the > sheetrocker was talking about. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20080117/8e2156ee/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:46:56 -0600 > From: "Leif Johnson" <leif.t.johnson at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Perl decrement question > To: rhubarbpie at poetworld.net, tclug <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <dbe795460801172146v58e3a3c7mfb964ae568dc5a37 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Jan 17, 2008 9:33 PM, Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> wrote: > > rhubarbpie at poetworld.net wrote: > > > I'm a Perl novice and hope this is a proper channel for a simple > > > question. Why does the following decrement incorrectly below 10? It > > > works with $i -- or $i -= .5. This is part of a larger script and I've > > > made a workaround, but I'm still curious. > > > > > Start $i from 100 and you'll notice that it happens for numbers greater > > than 10. The reason for this is that certain numbers cannot be > > represented accurately with the floating point representation your > > computer architecture and data type use. IEEE 754 is a standard that > > addresses this so try reading up on that if you're really interested. > > Any who, this is even worse in C with a float. > 1/10 is a repeating binary number, so no matter how many bits you have > in a floating point representation it will be wrong. So the double > version does not work perfectly, just less imperfectly than the > floating point version. > > leif > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:02:25 -0600 > From: Munir Nassar <tclug at beitsahour.net> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] don't order from Aztekcomputers > To: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: <479040F1.9050404 at beitsahour.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Aaron Miller wrote: > > With a name like "Zahid" I'm not too surprised by the type ;) > > > > Please enlighten me, me dumb foriner, me no englisch, me fall ov truk, > hurt head! > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:01:56 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike Miller <mbmiller at taxa.epi.umn.edu> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Perl decrement question > To: rhubarbpie at poetworld.net > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.60.0801172128160.11928 at taxa.epi.umn.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 rhubarbpie at poetworld.net wrote: > > > I'm a Perl novice and hope this is a proper channel for a simple > > question. Why does the following decrement incorrectly below 10? It > > works with $i -- or $i -= .5. This is part of a larger script and I've > > made a workaround, but I'm still curious. > > It has to do with the interpretation of ".1". A computer will represent > the number in binary digits. Unfortunately for you, .1, unlike .5, > doesn't have a short representation in binary digits. The value .1 equals > 1/10 which equals 1/2 ? 1/5. In binary, multiplying by 1/2 is like > multiplying by 1/10 in decimal, it just shifts everything one digit to the > right of the point (is it still called a "decimal point" when it's in base > 2?). So what is 1/5 in binary? > > 0.001100110011001100110011... > > Which means that .1 is this: > > 0.0001100110011001100110011... > > If we store 32 binary digits, we round it off like so: > > 0.00011001100110011001100110011001 > > which means we are off by 1.001100110011 ? 2^-33 (where the first part of > that is a binary representation), or in base 10: 1.2 ? 2^-33 = > 1.39698386192322... ? 10^-10, so you'd expect to see errors in the 10th > digit. > > As someone else pointed out, different software and different > architectures will use different numbers of binary digits to represent > numbers so you will have different amounts of error in different > situations. > > Mike > > > > use Math::Complex; > > > > for ($i = 13; $i >= 1; $i -= .1) { > > print"$i\n"; > > } > > > > 11 > > 10.9 > > 10.8 > > 10.7 > > 10.6 > > 10.5 > > 10.4 > > 10.3 > > 10.2 > > 10.1 > > 10 > > 9.90000000000001 > > 9.80000000000001 > > 9.70000000000001 > > 9.60000000000001 > > 9.50000000000001 > > 9.40000000000001 > > 9.30000000000001 > > 9.20000000000001 > > 9.10000000000001 > > 9.00000000000001 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:30:11 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike Miller <mbmiller at taxa.epi.umn.edu> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] don't order from Aztekcomputers > To: Munir Nassar <tclug at beitsahour.net> > Cc: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.60.0801180023280.11928 at taxa.epi.umn.edu> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Munir Nassar wrote: > > > Aaron Miller wrote: > >> With a name like "Zahid" I'm not too surprised by the type ;) > > > > Please enlighten me, me dumb foriner, me no englisch, me fall ov truk, > > hurt head! > > I'm definitely "achieving" this one. Here's my all-time favorite bit of > "Engrish" (stolen from engrish.com): > > http://taxa.epi.umn.edu/~mbmiller/pics/humor/dangerengrish.jpg > > There are no "types" in it, but lots of funny phrases. How would you like > to see that label on your kid's toy? You've been warned! > > Mike > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 37, Issue 28 > ****************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20080118/78e0d7c8/attachment-0001.htm
