Hello, I thought I would take this opportunity to give my opinion. I too am a new linux user, and would prefer to exclusively use linux as my OS. However, because of the learning curve I'm going through, and some proprietary applications that run on Windows, I continue to dual boot. My style of learning is very effective with the "hands on approach", and while I tried learning via book, I typically find myself in a situation not covered by the book. I can understand why some newer users abandons linux upon their first problem, but I personally find it rewarding to learn how to overcome the problem. Living in the St. Cloud area, I tried to contact the SCLUG, but it appears they are not currently active. Therefore, I recently joined the TCLUG mailing list, and would like to participate in events hosted by TCLUG, especially an install fest. Have a great day! Troy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: MIM <al7amdlellah at yahoo.com> Date: Sep 19, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Crash To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org I would like to agree and disagree with Jeremy. I agree that Linux crash less and that it is much more stable than Windows. I disagree on the easiness of some actions and of corrective measures. The reason is that windows is GUI while Linux, is more command line (which I see great if I get to know how :)). For example, to mount a drive you need to know the command and the options (I know most of it now but keep forgetting it as I do not use it often) also when I get a program source code and I am stuck during linking and compiling. I know it is simple for you guys, but for someone switching and really eager to switch (I even bought Zaurus PDA as it is Linux pda :) :)). I think a hands on for Linux will be great. I can get books but experience is better. And as many of you guys have Linux machine as their main machine, you have gone through a lot. I would love to be like you and completely migrate to Linux. By the way, I was playing around with Trixbox and I updated it beyond repair :) :). I mean, when updated, zaptel is not working anymore. It can be as simple as changing a line in a config file, but that is the kind of problems newbies fall into :) :). Please consider Hands On Series. p.s. I would love at some point to learn how to charge and fine tune my linux box too :) p.s. Most of the crashes that happened to me were self inflected, meaning playing around too much and causing damage as I try. And also I was unable to migrate Linux another computer ** ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:22:19 -0500 From: Jeremy Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Crash To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <200709181622.19318.tclug at lizakowski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > Personally, I have been on and off with linux for 2 > reasons 1) Not knowing how to recover a crash (steps and what so ...) 2) > Not being able to move it to new hard drive or change partition size > without messing up the system. Windows and Linux are the same. If windows crashes, you boot from a rescue disk, migrate data. and reinstall. It's the same for Linux. There are some advanced things you can do to get fancy with Linux and avoid reinstall, things which I imagine are not easily possible on windows. Those are a bonus, not a drawback. > Think it over and I think more people will get interested in Linux as it > comes clear how to solve some basic but serious problems. In my experience, it's the other way around. I see crashes less often with Linux. When using windows, I'm also always surprised how they demand reboots all the time whenever they install something or update software in the background. It very difficult to accomplish tasks on Windows that take more than a few days, with all the reboots. My Linux boxes are usually up for months at a time, and go down only for lightning storms and major upgrades. If there are Linux adoption issues, I think it's partly because windows ships by default on pretty much every PC. If Linux shipped by default, and you had to buy windows CDs and install them yourself, the tables would be turned. Jeremy ------------------------------ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow>(it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20070920/674680f5/attachment.htm