Danny J, Which distros of Linux have you tried before? I think most should work "out of the box" with a wired connection. Sometimes wireless is a little trickier. I suggest you try out Ubuntu, http://ubuntu.com . There is a new release coming out in a week. I haven't had any problems with a wired internet connection and wireless has gotten better with every new release, which happen every 6 months. Jon > Why is it so damned hard to connect to the internet using Linux? That's > one of the biggest beefs I have about the OS. I've currently got Sabayon > 3.3and can't connect. I tried to burn an ISO of 3.4f with burn cdcc & > could not do it. If anyone has the courage to call me on the phone, I > would really appreciate it. I want to use Linux but the problem of > Internet connection always has me saying screw it!! > Please advise. > > Danny J. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:00 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: tclug-list Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 > > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: smtp auth (admin at lctn.org) > 2. TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 > pm (Jeremy) > 3. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - > 8:00 pm (Florin Iucha) > 4. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - > 8:00 pm (Jeremy) > 5. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - > 8:00 pm (Elvedin Trnjanin) > 6. Stopping e-mail terrorism! Was: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: > Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm (Florin Iucha) > 7. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - > 8:00 pm (jason reynolds) > 8. Re: smtp auth (Dave Carlson) > 9. Re: smtp auth (Jima) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:33:46 -0500 (CDT) > From: admin at lctn.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] smtp auth > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <32328.64.8.149.210.1192041226.squirrel at lctn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > >> No, source-based installs don't put entries in the rpmdb. You might > be >> better off trying to rebuild the sendmail SRPM from, say, Fedora 7 > (which >> has 8.14.1). >> > > > That is exactly what I attempted to do, but it complained about > tcp_wrappers, and tcp_wrappers complained about other dependencies, > etc... > > It was the Fedora 7 sendmail srpm I was using. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:38:28 -0500 > From: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> > Subject: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct > 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Cc: tclug-announce at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <200710101338.28853.tclug at lizakowski.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! > > Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics or > things to discuss, just let me know. > > NOTE: there is a room change. This is a smaller room in the main part > of > the building. > > Date: Wed, Oct 10th > Time: 6:30 - 8:00 pm > University of Minnesota Minneapolis campus, EE/CSci Building , Room: > 3-110 > 200 Union St SE, Minneapolis 55455 > > > >> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 11:05:53 pm Munir Nassar wrote: >> > On 10/3/07, Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> wrote: >> > > If you're seriously offering, we can do it on Wed the 10th. I > just >> > > need to reserve the room. Up for it? >> > >> > i'm up for it. tell me where and when. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:04:12 -0500 > From: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed > Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm > To: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <20071010200412.GE7854 at iucha.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 01:38:28PM -0500, Jeremy wrote: >> The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! >> >> Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics > or >> things to discuss, just let me know. > > Then top posting! > > And trimming headers. > > I propose talking about thread hijacking. > > florin > > -- > Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition. > http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/163 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > Url : > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20071010/b3 > 691864/attachment-0001.pgp > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:11:21 -0500 > From: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed > Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm > To: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <200710101511.21123.tclug at lizakowski.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. > > How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line intact > to > promote the original idea? > > :) > > Jeremy > >> > The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! >> > >> > Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics > or >> > things to discuss, just let me know. >> >> Then top posting! >> >> And trimming headers. >> >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. >> >> florin > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:36:07 -0500 > From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed > Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm > To: tclug at lizakowski.com > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <470D37B7.1080607 at umn.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Someone should take especially good notes for me. I wanted to go but as > with every Wednesday, I'll be in night class from 6 to 9. > > Jeremy wrote: >>> I propose talking about thread hijacking. >>> >> >> How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line > intact to >> promote the original idea? >> >> :) >> >> Jeremy >> >> >>>> The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! >>>> >>>> Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics > or >>>> things to discuss, just let me know. >>>> >>> Then top posting! >>> >>> And trimming headers. >>> >>> I propose talking about thread hijacking. >>> >>> florin >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:44:40 -0500 > From: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> > Subject: [tclug-list] Stopping e-mail terrorism! Was: TCLUG Meeting > Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm > To: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <20071010204440.GF7854 at iucha.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:11:21PM -0500, Jeremy wrote: >> > I propose talking about thread hijacking. >> >> How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line > intact to >> promote the original idea? > > Sure, we can go as deep as you want 8^) > > florin > > -- > Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition. > http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/163 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > Url : > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20071010/4a > acc4a9/attachment-0001.pgp > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:58:21 -0500 > From: "jason reynolds" <jeruvin at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct > 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm > To: "Elvedin Trnjanin" <trnja001 at umn.edu> > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: > <6eb23c4e0710101358o2861f96by3b98f58d3660f811 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Someone should record the meeting and place them on the internet. That > would > be neat. > > jason > > On 10/10/07, Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> wrote: >> >> Someone should take especially good notes for me. I wanted to go but > as >> with every Wednesday, I'll be in night class from 6 to 9. >> >> Jeremy wrote: >> >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. >> >> >> > >> > How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line > intact >> to >> > promote the original idea? >> > >> > :) >> > >> > Jeremy >> > >> > >> >>> The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! >> >>> >> >>> Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any > topics >> or >> >>> things to discuss, just let me know. >> >>> >> >> Then top posting! >> >> >> >> And trimming headers. >> >> >> >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. >> >> >> >> florin >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20071010/14 > a15a2b/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:51:01 -0500 (CDT) > From: "Dave Carlson" <thecubic at thecubic.net> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] smtp auth > To: admin at lctn.org > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: > <15942.163.231.6.86.1192071061.squirrel at castor.thecubic.net> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >> That is exactly what I attempted to do, but it complained about >> tcp_wrappers, and tcp_wrappers complained about other dependencies, > etc... >> >> It was the Fedora 7 sendmail srpm I was using. > > You're in a bit of a corner here. CentOS/RHEL is designed not to have > the > cutting-edge software and instead is centered on version stability, like > all enterprise distributions are. Virtually anything you do to bolt on > the newer sendmail will send you into version-dependency hell (see last > sentence for why) or be done outside the package management system and > will be overwritten when CentOS/RHEL updates sendmail and potentially > cause other runtime problems. > > Definitely don't try what ESR did and try to fight rpm (--force > --nodeps) > - I guarantee it will win :) > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Dave Carlson <thecubic at thecubic.net> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:01:29 -0500 (CDT) > From: Jima <jima at beer.tclug.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] smtp auth > To: Dave Carlson <thecubic at thecubic.net> > Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710102352130.4486 at beer.tclug.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Dave Carlson wrote: >> You're in a bit of a corner here. CentOS/RHEL is designed not to have > >> the cutting-edge software and instead is centered on version > stability, >> like all enterprise distributions are. > > Bingo. RHEL/CentOS are (IMO) good at what they do, Fedora is good at > what it does. Mixing and matching gets a little problematic unless > you're > a packaging guru. > >> Virtually anything you do to bolt on the newer sendmail will send you >> into version-dependency hell (see last sentence for why) or be done >> outside the package management system and will be overwritten when >> CentOS/RHEL updates sendmail and potentially cause other runtime >> problems. > > You're half right here, except CentOS 4 will never update sendmail as > far > as 8.14. Heck, even CentOS 5 is only up to 8.13.8; it'd probably be > until > 5.1 or 6 before it gets close to endangering the RPM, and even then, > that'd probably be what he'd want (unless he's patching in extra > functionality, which he hasn't mentioned). > Just an off-the-cuff guess; the Fedora 7 sendmail SRPM probably has a > BuildReq for tcp_wrappers-devel. tcp_wrapper-devel was split off > between > FC6 and F7 -- before F7, the functionality was in the main tcp_wrappers > RPM. Removing that -devel might get past that hurdle (although another > one might take its place). > >> Definitely don't try what ESR did and try to fight rpm (--force > --nodeps) >> - I guarantee it will win :) > > Number one rule if you're thinking about using --force or --nodeps: > You're probably doing something wrong. > > Jima > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 > ****************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: > 10/11/2007 3:09 PM > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >