> -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Jim Crumley > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:25:22AM -0600, Chuck Cole wrote: > > Real Time has dropped any visible connection with TCLUG activities as of > > several years ago, but probably still hosts this list. I think it was a > > liability concern. Since TCLUG can't take responsibility or > insure anything, > > the organizing individuals and any seeming sponsors carry the > liability if > > anything happens. > > Do you have any real info on this, or is this just speculation? Comments made to me privately by one of the Tanners, but without elaboration when I offered to host an event. Real enough for me. Get your own data. Lack of mention, support, or appearance at events is apparent. > > TCLUG could be chartered to be or do what Jima mentioned, but isn't or > > hasn't. The details can be a nuisance, but it's like growing > up and having > > to get a driver's license, insurance, and pay taxes or take the > consequences > > when they come. > > I think that it is time to put up or shut up. > > TCLUG runs more or less as an anarchy. People who have the time > and interest step up and get things done. Meetings and > installfests are organized. The web page is updated. > > In the past some people looked into formalizing TCLUG, and even > though someone had cheap access accountants and/or lawyers (I > forget which - check the archives for details), no one wanted to > spend the time to get it done. If you think that it would be > helpful to incorporate TCLUG as a non-profit, get together some > like-minded people and do it. I saw that circus. I had offered to help originally, but there was no cohesiveness to proceed and there was/is active opposition. I've formed several non-profits, including getting federal 501c3 classifications. > I have been on this list for about 10 years (and I used to make > it to meetings ocassionally), and I have learned a lot and had > some fun. I would just like to thank everyone who has put work > into keeping TCLUG going. Ditto. > So to Clay and Bob, Chewie and Carl, Jeremy and Eric, and all of > the people I am leaving off: Thank you! > > Please, let's improve the complaining to helping ratio around > here. Start with yourself. My comments are all factual and in a constructive direction. I've offered to get things done or help. The day to "get real" may yet come and it may be for TCLUG. Chuck