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>    1. Re: new motherboard recommendation (Florin Iucha)
>    2. Re: new motherboard recommendation (Yaron)
>    3. OT - Magazines (John Meier)
>    4. OT: webcams (John Meier)
>    5. Re: OT: webcams (Sam Martin)
>    6. Re: OT - Magazines (Benjamin Gramlich)
>    7. Re: OT - Magazines (Haudy Kazemi)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:05:59 -0600
> From: florin at iucha.net (Florin Iucha)
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] new motherboard recommendation
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
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> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:43:44AM -0600, Yaron wrote:
> > > What about this one: "Antec NSK2400 Media PC Case" ?
> >
> > I thought they stopped selling the NS series when they came out with the
> > Fusion (which is, by the way, BEAUTIFUL).
>
> NSK2400 is Fusion without the buttons and display.
> > Actually my real problem here is I'm still refusing to pay more for the
> > case than I am for the motherboard... but I'll get over it. Two of my mATX
> > machines are Antec Aria cases right now, and I do loooove Antec cases.
>
> You should be able to find it for $80 (which includes a decent
> power-suppy) plus shipping.
>
> florin
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:20:53 -0600 (CST)
> From: Yaron <tclug at freakzilla.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] new motherboard recommendation
> To: TCLUG <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Florin Iucha wrote:
>
> >> NSK2400 is Fusion without the buttons and display.
>
> Yeah, about half the price, about half the pretty.
>
> > You should be able to find it for $80 (which includes a decent
> > power-suppy) plus shipping.
>
> Yeah, which is more than I'm paying for a motherboard.
>
> Now before I get accused of cheap-assness, let me just say that I am a
> cheap-ass. Okay, when I'm building a server or my desktop, then I'll go
> all out and spend the extra money for super-high-quality stuff. The guy
> I'm building now is not a vital machine - if it  dies I can live without
> it for, well, however long it takes to fix/replace it. So I'm trying to do
> it for REALLY cheap.
>
> That said, the whole mediacenter form factor appeals to me. A lot. And an
> Antec one would be nice. I'll have to add a shelf to my entertainment
> center (because sitting on top of my stereo receiver will melt a computer)
> but that's fairly easy.
>
> You know what really annoys me about these mediacenter cases though? No
> place to stick an IR receiver. So whatever I get, I'll have to drill a
> hole in it.
>
>
> -Yaron
>
> --
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>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:58:08 -0600
> From: "John Meier" <john.meier at gmail.com>
> Subject: [tclug-list] OT - Magazines
> To: tclug <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> Way lame thread, but -
>
> Magazine sub, offered by school kids - usually I decline, but my niece is
> giving me the heat, so I identified 3 possible sub that I might be
> interested in that were on the list of mags to subscribe to:
>
> PC World
> PC Magazine
> Wired
>
> Don't know the difference between the two "PC" offerings, and I think Wired
> is a general tech mag.  Went to the website of each and after that I'm still
> at a loss.
>
> Anyone read any of the three mentioned above?  Recommendations?  I guess I'm
> be ok with anything that deal with upcoming techy stuff or one that offered
> (unbiased?) opinions on current OS issues and software/hardware etc...
>
> Like I said - kinda a lame topic... but thought the group might have some
> input.
>
> thanks
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:18:36 -0600
> From: "John Meier" <john.meier at gmail.com>
> Subject: [tclug-list] OT: webcams
> To: tclug <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> Kinda OT here, maybe maybe not,
>
> Here's the situation -
>
> I have a brother-in-law that is serving the the military forces over seas.
> I have a sister-in-law and a niece that are here in the states.  They have
> not seen each other in a long time.  I'd like to set them up with a web cam
> interface where they can talk/see each other.  He has a laptop with him
> (windows based I assume)
>  and she has a home PC - also windows based.  The y can call each other and
> talk, but I'd like to set them up with a way to at least see each other.
>
> I have not dealt with web cams for a long time - and have no idea if they
> can just connect (stright IP connection) or if there needs to be some sort
> of broadcaster to manage connections.  I'm willing to set up a server (linux
> based in my case) to facilitate their connections.
>
> Any hardware/software recommendations?
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:50:07 -0600
> From: "Sam Martin" <s.earl.martin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT: webcams
> To: tclug <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> On 11/6/06, John Meier wrote:
> > I have a brother-in-law that is serving the the military forces over seas.
> > I have a sister-in-law and a niece that are here in the states.  They have
> > not seen each other in a long time.  I'd like to set them up with a web cam
> > interface where they can talk/see each other.  He has a laptop with him
> > (windows based I assume)
> >  and she has a home PC - also windows based.  The y can call each other and
> > talk, but I'd like to set them up with a way to at least see each other.
> >
>
> I'd go with cheapo webcams and use skype (or pretty much any IM
> client).  Not exactly open source or linux-related, but it should be
> fairly straightforward. Your biggest headache (if there is one) will
> probably be firewall/NAT issues on either end.
>
> sm
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:17:28 -0600
> From: Benjamin Gramlich <benjamin.gramlich at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT - Magazines
> To: John Meier <john.meier at gmail.com>
> Cc: tclug <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Message-ID: <455024F8.2030301 at gmail.com>
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> Both of the PC magazines are really low level consumer titles. Most of
> what they feature are wish lists of new tech gear, but no in-depth
> discussions. A recent cover asks us if we are ready for Windows Vista.
> It seems as though the editors of these two magazines think that PC
> means Windows. There isn't even coverage of Macintosh computers let
> alone linux.
>
> Wired is a business magazine with a strong eye towards the role
> technology plays in the economy. It's a magazine that is okay with it's
> place on the fringe of business commentary. In other words it's not
> trying to be like Forbes or Harvard Business Review. It has a niche
> audience, but continues to publish prescient articles that garner the
> attention of mainstream economists, CEOs, and investors. I highly
> recommend this one.
>
> Personally, though, I'd look to see if Scientific American, Scientific
> American Mind, and The Economist were part of your niece's magazine
> drive and get those.
>
> These are just some thoughts from a bookseller at a Barnes and Noble,
> though, so don't take them too seriously.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Benjamin
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: 07 Nov 2006 01:13:21 -0600
> From: Haudy Kazemi <kaze0010 at umn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT - Magazines
> To: tclug <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Cc: John Meier <john.meier at GMAIL.COM>,  Benjamin Gramlich
>         <benjamin.gramlich at GMAIL.COM>
> Message-ID: <Prayer.1.0.16.0611070113210.17696 at wm2.tc.umn.edu>
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> On Nov 7 2006, Benjamin Gramlich wrote:
>
> >Both of the PC magazines are really low level consumer titles. Most of
> >what they feature are wish lists of new tech gear, but no in-depth
> >discussions. A recent cover asks us if we are ready for Windows Vista.
> >It seems as though the editors of these two magazines think that PC
> >means Windows. There isn't even coverage of Macintosh computers let
> >alone linux.
>
> I second this view...although I do remember that PC Magazine issues in the
> late 1980s and early 1990s did have some in-depth articles that were more
> 'geeky', including segments on DOS Debug assembly, and advanced batch
> files. At that time it was a good introductory journal. I seem to recall it
> getting a lot thinner (down to 1/4" thick from nearly 1 inch) in the mid
> 90s when the Internet started taking off, with the articles being more
> low-level consumer centric.
>
> >Wired is a business magazine with a strong eye towards the role
> >technology plays in the economy. It's a magazine that is okay with it's
> >place on the fringe of business commentary. In other words it's not
> >trying to be like Forbes or Harvard Business Review. It has a niche
> >audience, but continues to publish prescient articles that garner the
> >attention of mainstream economists, CEOs, and investors. I highly
> >recommend this one.
> >
> >Personally, though, I'd look to see if Scientific American, Scientific
> >American Mind, and The Economist were part of your niece's magazine
> >drive and get those.
>
> I'd also look for Maximum PC (formerly Boot!) magazine. They include a
> monthly CD with the issue as well.
>
> -hk
>
>
>
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