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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Seeking Local Rails Resources (Chris Schumann)
>    2. OT - VPN over wireless (Carl Zeilon)
>    3. Re: OT - VPN over wireless (Florin Iucha)
>    4. Re: struggling to get past a perl problem (lists at turbobit.com)
>    5. Re: OT - VPN over wireless (Josh Welch)
>    6. New TCLUG Review (TCLUG Review)
>    7. Re: OT - VPN over wireless (Carl Zeilon)
>    8. http://kororaa.org/ (John Meier)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:06:08 -0600 (CST)
> From: "Chris Schumann" <cschumann at twp-llc.com>
> Subject: [tclug-list] Seeking Local Rails Resources
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Message-ID: <42876.192.28.2.52.1142622368.squirrel at alpha.twp-llc.com>
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> Are there any local Rails groups, online or off? I'd really like to get to
> know some local people who are learning Rails. I've started a Rails app,
> and have begun to realize just how big it is, and just talking through the
> app with another real programmer who knows rails at least a little might
> help.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Schumann
>
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:40:18 -0600
> From: Carl Zeilon <pclinux at charter.net>
> Subject: [tclug-list] OT - VPN over wireless
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Message-ID: <441B2CC2.3030906 at charter.net>
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> First, I'm totally new to VPNs.  My wife is set up with a VPN to connect
> to work from home.  If I use a wired connection to my router, everything
> functions fine.  If I use the wireless card, failure.  After a bit of
> Googling I tried connecting through a neighbor's unsecured wireless
> network.  Tada... the VPN works.  So, my question is this - Can you only
> use a VPN when you are connected to an unsecured wireless network?  I
> can't use WPA & VPN at the same time?  Is there something else I'm
> missing?
>
> Thank you,
> Carl
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:04:50 -0600
> From: florin at iucha.net (Florin Iucha)
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT - VPN over wireless
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Message-ID: <20060317220450.GD26338 at iucha.net>
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> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 03:40:18PM -0600, Carl Zeilon wrote:
> > First, I'm totally new to VPNs.  My wife is set up with a VPN to connect
> > to work from home.  If I use a wired connection to my router, everything
> > functions fine.  If I use the wireless card, failure.  After a bit of
> > Googling I tried connecting through a neighbor's unsecured wireless
> > network.  Tada... the VPN works.  So, my question is this - Can you only
> > use a VPN when you are connected to an unsecured wireless network?  I
> > can't use WPA & VPN at the same time?  Is there something else I'm
> missing?
>
> Most likely your router is mangling some packets (or does not mangle
> the NAT packets as it might need to). I remember something about VPN in
> the configuration pages of my Linksys WRT54G. Google around and dig
> into the configs.
>
> florin
>
> --
> Don't question authority: they don't know either!
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:28:41 +0000
> From: lists at turbobit.com
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] struggling to get past a perl problem
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Message-ID: <20060317162841.GA21313 at turbobit.com>
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> Hi Raymond,
>
> Just a few comments, I just took a quick look at Webgui and have
> no experience with it, but...
>
> WebGui is not a package debian stable has, first red flag.
> (I know you run RH, but if it's not in Debian it probably isn't in RH).
>
> Second red-flag: this Runtime Environment that the makers of WebGui
> advertise looks odd.  It's a 60MB download that claims to have
> Apache/Mysql/ImageMagick/Perl/others all bundled up into one neat package.
> This is a very unusual way to package/distribute for linux systems.
> In my opinion, it sounds like a "Bad Thing".  Apache & MySql are
> rather big complex packages that is best to go along with what your
> distro delivers and not divert from.
>
> Installation in source(stable version) is real brief, and refers you
> to http://www.plainblack.com/installation for the install doc.  None
> is found here.
> It mentions public list for install support but I couldn't find it.
> (That would make sense to join/ask install questions on the projects
> site list...)
>
> What was your experience with this "Runtime Environment" install package?
> If it installs these packages hopefully it isolates them in
> some private directories(usr/local)?  Is that what it did?
> If not you could have a real mess on your hands, if it mixes it with the
> base install dirs.  I would think that a 2nd copy of Apache/MySql
> would clash with the distro's copy.
> What version did you try and install?
>
> So a number of red flags, maybe you should forget all about this software.
>
> If you must have it I'd recommend trying to install per the short
> install.txt file.  Try to install all prerequisites from your distro,
> leaving to last resort installing by source/cpan.  So try and find RH
> packages for the numerous perl modules it uses.  Note MySQL usually
> involves some pain trying to initiate a database.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Karl.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:06:49PM -0600, Raymond Norton wrote:
> > I am no pro when it comes to perl problems, but hopefully someone else
> > is.
> >
> > I am trying to install WebGUI using their wre (WebGUI Runtime
> > Environment) At first I was getting the following error:
> >
> > perl Makefile.PL -apxs /data/wre/prereqs/apache/bin/apxs
> > Can't locate ExtUtils/XSBuilder/ParseSource.pm in @INC (@INC contains:,
> > etc....
> >
> >
> > The folders and files exist on the server, so I copied them over to a
> > folder that was in the @INC path. ( By the way, how the heck do you edit
> > @INC to include folders in its path?)
> >
> > Now I am getting the following error:
> >
> > root at www perl]# perl Makefile.PL -apxs /data/wre/prereqs/apache/bin/apxs
> > Base class package "ExtUtils::XSBuilder::ParseSource" is empty.
> >     (Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package
> > first.)
> >  at Makefile.PL line 100
> > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 100.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Raymond
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:33:07 -0600
> From: Josh Welch <josh at joshwelch.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT - VPN over wireless
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Message-ID: <20060317173307.o21ellai1o004s04 at bullwinkle.joshwelch.com>
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>
> Quoting Carl Zeilon <pclinux at charter.net>:
>
> > First, I'm totally new to VPNs.  My wife is set up with a VPN to connect
> > to work from home.  If I use a wired connection to my router, everything
> > functions fine.  If I use the wireless card, failure.  After a bit of
> > Googling I tried connecting through a neighbor's unsecured wireless
> > network.  Tada... the VPN works.  So, my question is this - Can you only
> > use a VPN when you are connected to an unsecured wireless network?  I
> > can't use WPA & VPN at the same time?  Is there something else I'm
> missing?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Carl
> >
>
> Your router is likely doing bad things to the IP packets(icky natting),
> if your
> wife is using an IPSec VPN (probably is) they can be very picky about
> anything
> tinkering with the packets. Look for a VPN Passthrough option in the
> router
> config, that will typically help.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:53:45 -0600
> From: TCLUG Review<webmaster at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: [tclug-list] New TCLUG Review
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Message-ID: <200603180153.k2I1rjn03608 at crusader.real-time.com>
>
> New TCLUG Review
>
> Category: Software
>
> Subject: Spellbound for FireFox
>
> I'm running MEPIS with FireFox 1.5 as my web browser, and have just
> started blogging at Blog-City. The problem is that I can't spell worth spit!
> The fix is a great program/extension for FireFox called 'Spellbound' to be
> found at spellbound.sourceforge.net
>
> Follow the install instruction for the program and the Mozilla libraries;
> they will both show up on the 'extensions' list after the install, but the
> selected dictionary won't. It can only be seen in the spell check text
> window.
>
> The program works great, but in order to get the dictionary to
> install,(you select one from a list a mile long), you must first insure that
> your user account has write access to the 'application component directory'.
> I accomplished this by logging in as root and then downloading the
> appropriate dictionary. The effect was global for all users on my system. If
> you do not do this, then no dictionary will be indicated in the spell check
> window even though it reported itself as have been successfully installed.
>
> By the way, the spell check icon, (an ABC with a check mark), won't
> automatically show up on your tool bar in Firefox after you install the
> program. To get it go to the View- Toolbars-customize list and scroll down
> the group of icons to find it, then drag it to your toolbar!
>
> To spell check content, use the icon, (it will become colored if text is
> present), or right click when you have you cursor in the text box and select
> 'check spelling' from the drop down  list. The text with will be copied to
> another window where you can complete the normal spell checking procedures.
>
> This is a great little spell checker, and as you can see...it works!
>
> http://www.mn-linux.org/cgi-bin/reviews/index.cgi
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:47:09 -0600
> From: Carl Zeilon <pclinux at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT - VPN over wireless
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Message-ID: <441B82BD.5090109 at charter.net>
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> On Friday, March 17, 2006  3:40 PM, Carl Zeilon wrote:
> > >
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:40:18 -0600
> > >From: Carl Zeilon
> > >To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > >Subject: [tclug-list] OT - VPN over wireless
> > >
> > >First, I'm totally new to VPNs.  My wife is set up with a VPN to
> connect
> > >to work from home.  If I use a wired connection to my router,
> everything
> > >functions fine.  If I use the wireless card, failure.  After a bit of
> > >Googling I tried connecting through a neighbor's unsecured wireless
> > >network.  Tada... the VPN works.  So, my question is this - Can you
> only
> > >use a VPN when you are connected to an unsecured wireless network?  I
> > >can't use WPA & VPN at the same time?  Is there something else I'm
> missing?
> > >
> > >Thank you,
> > >Carl
> > >
> > >_______
>
> Thank you for all the replies.  It works!  I switched over to a Linksys
> WRT-56G (running DD-WRT v23) from my D-Link DI-524 & everything
> functions correctly.  I had messed around with this router about a year
> ago but was disappointed with it's functionality running the Linksys
> firmware.  The open source stuff at the time seemed a little flaky & so
> I shelved the thing.  DD-WRT has come a long way - great.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:05:14 +0000
> From: "John Meier" <john.meier at gmail.com>
> Subject: [tclug-list] http://kororaa.org/
> To: tclug <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Message-ID:
>         <65293fcc0603172205j20c6db5cn166bbcda0e31483b at mail.gmail.com>
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> anyone tried out the livecd or installed yet?  Talk about eye candy!
>
> coments?
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