> Yes, Bob offered alternatives, most of which I had already said were > difficult to deal with. Too difficult to point a web browser at a url? nntp access nntp://news.gmane.org RSS access http://rss.gmane.org/messages/excerpts/gmane.user-groups.linux.tclug http access http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=tclug If you meant to say something like, the alternatives are not yahoo, then I'll agree with you. But to difficult? It has been my experience that this mailing list is very supportive of people unable to help themselves. Pointing out locations of information, HOWTOs, FAQs, even mini-mentoring sessions via email and/or irc. It was also been my experience that this same mailing lists is very intolerant of individuals unwilling to help themselves. If yahoo is the only solution that will work for you, run the poll, follow the due process, and ultimately accept what the community decides. AND yes, there will be discussion after the poll, since it's easy to forge multiple votes. -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.real-time.com, Minnesota, Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288