I wouldn't recommend MS Defender precisely for reason 1. Just like IE being "built into" the Windows OS means that there is much greater chance of vulnerability. PLUS if you pay MS enough $$$ they will "downgrade" the threat status of your spyware. I can't remember the exact incident (or the company), but it did happen last year. I've been using AVG now for over 5 years and they haven't stopped the free updates. Even if they did, I would simply recommend to everyone using it to simply pay for the subscription as they have done an excellent job so far of protecting my Windows computers (including friends and family). As for #4, since when has anything "worked smoothly" when integrated into an MS Windows OS? :-) -- ========== Todd Young -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jeff Rasmussen" <jeff.rasmussen at gmail.com> > I've started recommending Microsoft's Defender, for home users instead of > Grisoft's AVG because: > 1. it will be installed by default in Vista > 2. it looks like Microsoft will likely not charge for it, ever > 3. most home users just need something that will continue updating > definitions (If AVG ever decided to stop offering a free package, then > everybody I've recommended using it will probably have the free AVG > installed with no current definitions just like the trial versions of > Norton) > 4. it works smoothly with the operating system (It doesn't work with MS > own corporate proxy, therefore I assume that this will only be a consumer > product offered by Microsoft to keep people from moving to Mac or Linux > because of viruses) > > -- > Jeff Rasmussen > GPG public key 0x9686C12F -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Jeff Rasmussen" <jeff.rasmussen at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] OT: what does everyone recommend for Windows AV? Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:08:03 +0000 Size: 2941 Url: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20061227/92a1903e/attachment.eml