So here's an idea: I use Goldengate (iphouse) also. They do seem to have great support, but they don't seem to be specifically linux-friendly. Their official line seems to be that there are so many linux possibilities, and a linux user is assumed to be more literate than average, so they can't offer specific linux advice and don't feel a great need to. I asked them once, if I could figure out how to get something working on linux (I forget what this specific case was), and I wrote it up in great detail, would they put it on their support site for use by others in the same situation, and they seemed to be willing to do that. So the idea is, whenever anyone figures out how to do some internet-related thing with his/her specific configuration of his/her specific distribution, he/she will write it up and send it to iphouse. This would be things like, how to set up a dail-up connection to iphouse with SUSE 9.3, or how to get SUSE 10.0. to connect to the wireless part of the Qwest DSL modem, very specific stuff like that. With enough stuff like that, iphouse would become known as a linux-helpful isp, which would be good for them. There would be an increasing body of knowledge of how to use linux with an isp, which would be good for us. If we wanted a standardized format for these "how-to's" to put the tclug "brand" on them, I would be happy to do a sort of clearing-house, liason-person job. Steven White City of Bloomington 1800 W Old Shakopee Rd Bloomington MN 55431-3096 USA 952-563-4882 (voice) 952-563-4672 (fax) steven.white at ci.bloomington.mn.us >>> TCLUG Review <webmaster at mn-linux.org> 4/3/2006 9:39 AM >>> New TCLUG Review Category: ISPs Subject: IPHouse Very Linux friendly ISP, no ports blocked, no rate limiting, static IP included, talk to (local) techs not clueless script readers. 20$ a month on top of what Qwest charges for 7Mb DSL service. But worth it IMHO. http://www.mn-linux.org/cgi-bin/reviews/index.cgi _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list