Mike Miller wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Richard Hoffbeck wrote: > >> Harv Nelson wrote: >> >>> >>> Several years ago I did such a thing with a friend (a Ham, like me)in >>> Brazil. In the end, after paying duties and "fees" to expedite >>> movement thru customs, it would have been cheaper to buy the machines >>> in downtown Rio. Check with a local consular office before you pack >>> your bags. Often it will be easier and cheaper to bring in a >>> completed machine ... a laptop, for example, as part of your personal >>> effect and "luggage". You may need an "import license" for the >>> component parts that costs as much as the components themselves ... >>> and you haven't paid the duties, yet! NAFTA be damned! >> >> >> NAFTA is just the US, Canada and Mexico so Brazil and Ecuador don't >> enter the picture, and after the response Bush got in Argentina last >> week it doesn't look like there'll be a general agreement for South >> America anytime soon. Just for reference I think the import tariff for >> Ecuador is in the 20% - 30% range for most goods. I'm certain that its >> something you'd want to research before you turn up at the border with >> a suitcase full of motherboards and the likes. > > > > I will want to research it, but it seems to me that we bring tons of > things to Ecuador all the time without paying import tariffs. Aren't > import tariffs for things you plan to sell? The items I'll be bringing > over are gifts for relatives. > > Mike Tariffs usually apply to commercial transactions but when the gifts you're bringing with you have commercial applications things can be fuzzy. And the flip side is that a lot of countries want you to pay the VAT on items you're planning to leave in the country. The Europeans use to be real pricks about laptops - I had friends who had to post a bond for the VAT when they entered the country to cover the VAT if they didn't have the laptop when they left. I suspect it depends on a lot of stuff that may not be well documented. I think that's true of most countries, not just Ecuador. If you show up with 5 motherboards and an Ecuadorian wife you may well be treated differently than if you showed up alone or if I presented myself to customs with a suitcase full of CPUs and motherboards. I do know that trying to sort things out in customs in most countries is usually a losing proposition. --rick