As much as we would all like to hope and pray, Microsoft isn't going anywhere. Despite all the hell home users go through, office users don't face the same level of issues. I manage 150 or so Windows 2000 and XP stations, as well as mutiple servers. With Active Directory and Group Policy, and a lot know how, it's become a great operating enviorment, for a Microsoft based soultion. ;) It doesn't matter when Longhorn ships. People will STILL be using NT4 on their servers. I thought I was finially done with NT4, then we purchased another company and the whole mess started over again. Being part of a company where I'm not top IT managment, Exchange and Outlook is what we have for e-mail. There are solid clients for Windows (Outlook), Mac OSX (Entourage), and *NIX (Evolution). Once Exchange has been mandated to you, it's hard to break the MS lock in. You have to buy a Windows server CAL as well as an Exchange CAL for every device, and when you're company is big enough to get a licenesing agreement Windows Server 2003 comes in around $500, vs. Red Hat Enterprise which is around $1,000. Once you're in, you're in. Luckly, being a printing company, there are enough Macs around that I can push for XServes instead of Dell Windows servers. They deal with active directory stuff just fine, and are perfect replacments to NT4 boxes. Definitly a happy medium there. Even with all that, there is still a place for Linux. I've currently got 30 Linux web/data entry terminals, a couple servers, and there are 15 more terminals waiting for me to install them. People get to see Linux and Mozilla do something great. Yay. In 99% of businesses out there, you can't escape Windows desktops. The best way to manage Windows desktops is with Windows servers, just like the best way to manage Mac desktops is with Mac servers. And hey, the Windows servers and the Mac servers know how to get along just fine, and there is bliss. And the Linux installs will talk to everything. Great. I don't see any of these OSes/Platforms going away. MS is too prevalent, Apple has too much money in the bank, Linux has open source. And now I'm rambling. ;) -- Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us A password is like your underwear; Change it frequently, don't share it with others, and don't ask to borrow someone else's.