I really don't like being right in this case, I think Josh knew before I said it, sorry Josh. Is everyone as tired as I am of this sort of thing? Not just with our home computers but at work, it's insane to have to deal with this sort of thing. I had a Gentoo system up for just a couple of days when it got rooted. When I rebuilt it I just didn't install anything that would let them in (SSH, FTP, HTTP, etc...) in order to prevent another rootkit showing up. I spent 4 hours upgrading to the new versions of AVG (7 is out), SpyBot, and HyJackThis on "all" the computers at home. I'm just not in to doing that much support of the computers at home. If I don't the DSL connection becomes a 33.6k connection in no time at all. :-( With all the spam, popups, spyware, trojans, rootkits, and other evil mice doing this stuff on the web the solution is a better mouse trap, not trying to blocking the mice. If a maze or dungeon type system was setup to entice, intrigue, entrap, and return the favor too the evil mice, it would help to limit the infestation of mice. It would have to be simple yet seductive to the mind of the mice that do these things. Maybe it will take working with ISP's and the open source community to come up with something like this. A "Honey Pot" that leaves a bad taste in their mouth, so to speak, for what they are doing to other people. A place they can vent the anger or what ever it is they feel drives them to do this sort of thing. I would think the mice that do this sort of thing would be interested in porn, ill gotten software, and music as long as when they break-in it's easily found and what they didn't expect to easily find. I would venture to guess they are careful but over confident in protecting their own systems. Let them open the back door, open a trap door in to a world they can't resist, then return the favor. I'm home today with my son who isn't feeling well, I'll be installing Snort on my server. I don't know anything about Snort but I hope to at least find where the mice are coming in. It's to bad we have to take so much time to "attempt" to stop the evil mice. It takes time away from the fun we should be having with our families. Sam. Josh Welch wrote: >My company is looking at document management systems, i.e. scan paper into >digital form and plunk it into a database so you can easily search for it. >Everyting I've seen to this point has been based on a Windows/SQL Server >backend. We would really like to see this implemented with Linux as the >database server, whether it be Oracle, Informix, Postgres or whatever running >on top of it. We have no time to be putzng around with customized stuff or >hacking it together ourselves, it needs to be pretty much a canned app. Anyway, >if you've worked with anything like this please give a shout. > >Thanks, >Josh > >_______________________________________________ >TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org >Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery >tclug-list at mn-linux.org >https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list