<snip> >Home Depot has an Ideal brand > crimper So if the original poster needs, I have the above mentioned crimper, wire and the plug ends - and I'm in bloomington - home all day You could test it out before you buy and make a cross-over!! My crimper is from Home depot, but I upgraded it a bit.... It's far better than ANYTHING out there... I should really put my Crimper mod up on the Internet so others can benefit.... _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list