> Every time I think about using Java, I am astounded by what a blizzard > of objects I have to grapple with to do what seems to me to be the > simplest thing. For example, the difference between what it takes to > get something displayed on the screen in Java + Swing and perl + tk, > or tcl/tk. For example, the test scroll pane thing, draws a picture > and lets you scroll over it, which I opened at random to in a Swing > book, consumes about 30 lines. That's approximately as much as is > consumed by a sample graph editor (micro-Visio) in Ousterhout's Tcl > book. And you just let the wish interpreter have at it, modding it as > you go. No heavy lifting with the IDE, the editor, etc. Tcl isn't > really to my taste, but that's a pretty good example of what I mean by > a high-level languge. Java is generally accepted as being more suitable for large apps. Just because it's not the most terse language for quick hacks, doesn't mean its not a good choice for large applications. Nor does being able to hack something up in only 3 lines of code instead of 30 mean TCL or Perl is good for writing large apps... Right tool for the job. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list