I personally manage 10 SmoothWall boxes, both at home and work
environments, and know of 5 other friends who use it also.   Firewall,
VPN's, proxies, intrusion detection, web managment interface, regular
updates.  A great package to work with, manage, very stable, and great
performance on older equipment.  Who cares if the guy's who wrote it are
"prick's" in some peoples eyes, I think its a good product.

Side note: If you where a new person to this list, you may think that
there are a few "prick's" here as well.  Its all about perception.

> I haven't received the digest yet, but apparently there is some concern
> about Smoothwall having a "backdoor" built into it. This is utter
> nonsense, most likely propagated by the people at IPCOP to justify their
>  stolen version of Smoothwall's GPL'd software.
>
> The ONLY thing that happens when configuring a Smoothwall is that it's
> first contact with the Internet after initial installation the software
> sends a brief message back to Smoothwall. I quote from their FAQ
> document: =================================
> The InvBot reports back the following NONPERSONAL data and we don't
> actually have to tell anyone we're reporting back at all - but in the
> full edition the docs clearly state that:
> "agreeing to use SmoothWall is a two way relationship. You as a
> company/individual will comply with the terms of the GNU General Public
> License and also respect the rights of all developers whose code lies
> within the project boundries. SmoothWall requires you to automatically
> register the following information so that we can gauge our audience and
>  also continue to develop SmoothWall for the future. SmoothWall will
> report back automatically the following data, no data concerning you or
> your civil liberties is infringed upon and no data collected will be
> used than for the purpose of continued development of this project."
> Information collated:
> -SmoothWall version installed
> -CPU Vender name
> -CPU model name
> -CPU Megahertz
> -RAM
> -HDD size
> -connection type
> -First 2 octets of IP address (for geographical location)
> This is ESSENTIAL information for us to guage usage figures that are
> TOTALLY correct and also for us to see where we need to push effort. It
> also gives us control over where we need to put FTP servers, support
> effort and also where to push SmoothWall with user groups, local IT
> press and resources on the ground.
> ========================================
> Within another document I saved from SmoothWall, specifically about
> IPCOP, they note that the "developers" of IPCOP were junior, tertiary
> members on the very fringe of the SmoothWall team (no core developers or
>  major contributors of the project) and some of there were even ejected
> from the community team.
>
> To be quite blunt, IPCOP stole SmoothWall's work and put their own name
> on it.
>
> I have PDFs of everything I have written here, if anyone wants a copy, I
>  would be more than happy to send it to you. I find IPCOP's actions
> distasteful at a minimum, downright criminal at the max.
> --
> Todd Young
> 7079 Dawn Ave. E.
> Inver Grove Heights, MN 55076
>
>
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