I have used VISI since September 2003. They are my ISP for Frontier DSL. Overall I would rank them as excellent. I was a little confused setting stuff up after coming from a cable ISP. I'm used to the cable modem being a bridge and my firewall getting the outside IP. With DSL the router gets the outside IP, so I have two layers of private networks. The connection has been pretty reliable. I have had to reboot the router a few times in the last two months. I suppose that's not great, but I hear it's better than Qwest. They provide all the services of the small town ISPs from when BBSes were the main thing. They have a shell server, webmail and even spam filtering. I'm very happy with their offerings and plan to stay with them. Nate _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list