I would like a Klein Donut. Ah yes, preferably a Krispy Kreme Klein Donut, the tastiest non-orientable, boundary free toroid found anywhere in our three spatial dimensions. "A Klein Donut? That can't exist outside of the 4th dimension!" You are wrong my friend. The 4th dimensional Klein Donut can be transferred into 3 dimensions without cusps or folds. Every part of the immersed Klein donut would be locally Euclidean. A mathematical immersion allows self-intersection, which, indeed, a Klein donut would have. Klein donuts would be non-orientable just like 4D Klein donuts, because orientabilty is invarient with immersion. (Much of the above was ripped from http://www.kleinbottles.com, about the coolest gift you can get for a geek). :) Jay > -----Original Message----- > From: florin at iucha.net [mailto:florin at iucha.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 5:45 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] NT:UNIX::donut:particle accellerator > > > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:50:36PM -0500, Carl Wilhelm > Soderstrom wrote: > > florin's .sig reads: > > > > > "NT is to UNIX what a doughnut is to a particle > accelerator." > > > > now is that a linear particle accellerator, or a toroidal particle > > accellerator? :) > > There are some linear donuts out there, but other than some different > topological properties than the toroidal ones there is nothing > interesting about them. The toroidal donuts come in more icing styles. > > On the nutrition scale, they are equally poisonous... > > florin > > -- > > "NT is to UNIX what a doughnut is to a particle accelerator." > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list