Ok many thanks to Jima....i have found the solution.....the problem is with java not liking AMD...thanks sun....***holes.....so tonight I go to get a new mainboard and processor....at least my wife will like the fact that I will no longer need the 9 fans required to keep the dual processors cool and loud....oh well....at least it will work _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list