On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 09:54:45AM -0500, Duncan Shannon wrote:
> Hello all-

[snip]

> 
> If anyone has MS proxy experience, MS proxy setup that i can plug my 
> device into or any input it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Also, im very curious to know your thoughts on what % of business 
> networks use proxies, and how they would break down by product.  ie. 
> are 60% of networks using proxies? are they mostly MS Proxy?

Ahh, the joys of MS Proxy...

Once there was a small company that ran nothing but MS products, including
MS Proxy. One day they decided to upgrade from ISDN to high speed internet,
including publicly routed IP space for a few systems that they wanted to
setup as web and ftp servers. After many hours of hard work, they finally
got Linux installed on an older system, and intended to use it as a router
+nat+squid proxy for their network, so they could retire the MS Proxy server.
(This took much convincing)

When the time came to move the ethernet cable from the MS Proxy server to
the Linux system, a horrible thing happened -- nobody could reach the internet!

Screaming and preaching of the glory of MS was heard from afar, especially
after we had turned off the MS Proxy settings on every single desktop.

After many hours of fiddling, it was found that you had to completely 
uninstall the MS Proxy client before the systems were usable on anything
else (alas, the zealots were not happy with this, and proclaimed it must be
a bug elsewhere). 

After cleaning the virulent MS Proxy client from their systems, there was
great rejoicing at the speed and efficiency of Linux and squid, and never
again was there heard a complaint (until a tornado ripped their building
apart last month)

Moral of the story:
  MS Proxy is an evil, evil program that I've only encountered once in
the corporate environment, it follows no standards, and there is no
interoperability documentation. Don't bother.

> thanks
> duncan

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Matthew S. Hallacy                            FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified
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