Bob, spoke to my boss today. We can use my office, same place as last time for an installfest. I can't do it this weekend but could next weekend, Sat Oct 5th. If that works for you let me know and I'll coordinate with Clay to set it up. Also will you be bringing gladiator? Would save me some time getting up a local ftp server. thanks, Scot 612-312-0172 if you have questions