Are you leaving Mychael on Stormhammer or is he coming back to Ayonae Ro?

I might be leading a Nagafen raid sometime in the near future.

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>    1. FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? (Bob Tanner)
>    2. Re: LVM bootdisk? (Joel Schneider)
>    3. Re: About Embedded Linux (Joel Schneider)
>    4. Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? (Scott Dier)
>    5. Re: WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... (Lee J. Behrens)
>    6. Re: Scanners (Matthew S. Hallacy)
>    7. Re: List Policy Vote? To "Reply-To" or not to "Reply-To" (Matthew S.
Hallacy)
>    8. Re: Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? (Jon Schewe)
>    9. Re: LVM bootdisk? (Jon Schewe)
>   10. Re: WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... (Florin Iucha)
>   11. ssl in virtualhosts (Austad, Jay)
>   12. Re: WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... (Samir M. Nassar)
>   13. Re: ssl in virtualhosts (Munir Nassar)
>   14. Kylix 2 open edition (Brian)
>   15. Re: Kylix 2 open edition (Florin Iucha)
>   16. OpenSSH local root exploit (Kelly Black)
>   17. Re: OpenSSH local root exploit (Kelly Black)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:31:57 -0600
> From: Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: [TCLUG] FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org?
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Getting a lot of this question, both in irc and mail:
>
> Why do I get 'Too many users in your class, please try again later.' when
I try
> to connection to ftp.mn-linux.org?
>
> As stated in the .msg when you first log in:
>
>  **WARNING** If I cannot reverse name lookup your host you are going to
get
>  dumped into the default class which only allow 1 user. This mirror is for
the
>  US and we are restricting it to US domains.
>
> --
> Minneapolis St. Paul Twin Cities MN        | Phone : (952)943-8700
> http://www.mn-linux.org Minnesota Linux    | Fax   : (952)943-8500
> Key fingerprint =  6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:43:27 -0600
> From: Joel Schneider <joel at joelschneider.net>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] LVM bootdisk?
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:04:49PM -0600, Jon Schewe wrote:
> > Well I got it shrunk down so mindi built me some disks, 4 to be exact.
Now I
> > can't write them.  They're 1.72MB and my drive keeps on telling me it's
out of
> > space when I try and write them using dd.  I can't remember if there's
> > something else to do to the disks to make this work.
>
> Before copying the images to diskette, you'll need to format the
> diskettes as 1.72 MB.  The superformat program, typically included as
> part of the fdutils package, works well for this purpose.  Example:
>
>   # superformat /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83
>
> If it's not already defined on your system, you might need to create a
> device entry for the 1.72 MB diskette.  Example:
>
>   # mknod /dev/fd0u1743 b 2 76
>
> Once formatted, you can dd your images onto the diskettes.  Example:
>
>   # dd if=xyz.floppy of=/dev/fd0u1743 bs=1024
>
> If you're looking for further information on this topic, the LRP web
> site page on booting linux for 'higher' density diskettes might be a
> good starting point:
>
>   http://master-www.linuxrouter.org:8080/floppy.shtml
>
> Joel
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:54:53 -0600
> From: Joel Schneider <joel at joelschneider.net>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] About Embedded Linux
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:36:29PM -0600, Sreekumar Kodakara wrote:
> > Where can I find a distribution of embedded linux which supports
> > PC-104 and also fits in this constrained disk space.
>
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/directory/Software/
>
> Also of potential interest:
>
> http://www.embedded-linux.org/
> http://linux-embedded.com/
> http://www.redhat.com/embedded/
> http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=embedded
> ...
>
> Joel
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:09:23 -0600
> From: Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: [TCLUG] Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org?
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> * Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> [020306 23:33]:
> > Why do I get 'Too many users in your class, please try again later.'
when I try
> > to connection to ftp.mn-linux.org?
>
> AT&T recently refucked their DNS again.  I've tried finding someone Who
> Cares, but nobody seems to.  You get what you pay for I guess. (I get by
> paying $30/mo for it.)
>
> --
> Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> http://www.ringworld.org/
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Lee J. Behrens" <lbehrens at boolion.com>
> To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] WAY-OT - A pic from NASA...
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 06:21:10 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> > Actually Hitler won the elections in Germany.
>
> Yeah, but it didn't take long before the Germans didn't have a choice. But
> we digress yet again.... (and again.... and again....)
>
> > Please keep your mouth shut when you don't have anything usefull or
> > funny to say; do troll elsewhere.
>
> My, but aren't we in a bad mood today.
>
> Lee
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:14:44 -0600
> From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix at techmonkeys.org>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Scanners
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 12:52:33AM -0600, Austad, Jay wrote:
> >  Epson scanners seem to be the best supported.  I bought an Epson
Perfection
> > 1240U awhile back, and I love it.  It takes about 10 seconds to scan a
full
> > sheet of paper in full color.  Other scanners that I've tried that with
take
> > well over a minute (cough, canon, cough).  Absolutely zero problems
making
> > it work on my new system too.  I just compiled Sane and Xsane, edited
the
> > epson config file under the sane directory to point to
/dev/usb/scanner0,
> > and loaded the scanner module with:
>
> [snip]
> >
> > The Epson has sweet quality also, much better than Canon or HP of
comparable
> > resolution/price.  Even on windows, the Epson really kicks the crap out
of
> > all other scanners I've tried (and we have a ton floating around at
work).
> >
> > Jay
> >
>
> I have an excellent scanner I bought in '96-97, it's a Mustek MFS 12000
SP,
> it supports parallel or SCSI connections, ledger size scanning, i don't
recall
> the resolutions that it supports but they're still higher than all of the
> tinker toy scanners being sold today (of course, it cost >$300 when i
bought
> it, and that was with a large-ish discount). If you're interested in doing
real
> work quickly, get a quality scanner (preferably SCSI) if you want to play
> around and scan a few pictures here and there, go for the low-end toys..
>
> [trim your posts!]
> --
> Matthew S. Hallacy                            FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified
> http://techmonkeys.org/~poptix                  GPG public key 0x01938203
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:23:01 -0600
> From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix at techmonkeys.org>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] List Policy Vote? To "Reply-To" or not to "Reply-To"
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> >     1) Yes
> >     2) No
> >     3) I don't care, procmail will fix all
>
> 3 =)
>
> >
> > I recently saw another list "convert" to Reply-To munging because the
> > developers were getting tired of cross-posters and inattentive list
> > users abusing the Cc: and To: headers, thusly receiving multiple copies
> > of the same email.
>
> Some day people will find those things called manual pages..
>
>  :0 Wh: msgid.lock
>  | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache
>
>
> Hey mom! No more dupes.
>
> > Chad Walstrom <chewie at wookimus.net>                 | a.k.a. ^chewie
>
>
>
> --
> Matthew S. Hallacy                            FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified
> http://techmonkeys.org/~poptix                  GPG public key 0x01938203
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org?
> From: Jon Schewe <jpschewe at mtu.net>
> Date: 07 Mar 2002 07:34:48 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> writes:
>
> > * Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> [020306 23:33]:
> > > Why do I get 'Too many users in your class, please try again later.'
when I try
> > > to connection to ftp.mn-linux.org?
> >
> > AT&T recently refucked their DNS again.  I've tried finding someone Who
> > Cares, but nobody seems to.  You get what you pay for I guess. (I get by
> > paying $30/mo for it.)
>
> Mine seems fine, although I have had problems in the past.  When I went
> through their tech support I was told that reverse lookups were
unsupported.
> I highly encourage you to send them a letter of complaint, it needs to be
> snail mail though.  Apparently it needs to be explained to someone at AT&T
> that reverse lookups are a basic security feature of the internet.
>
> --
> Jon Schewe | http://mtu.net/~jpschewe | jpschewe at mtu.net
> For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels
> nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any
> powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all
> creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that
> is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] LVM bootdisk?
> From: Jon Schewe <jpschewe at mtu.net>
> Date: 07 Mar 2002 08:00:38 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Ben Lutgens <blutgens at sistina.com> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:04:49PM -0600, Jon Schewe wrote:
> > >
> > >Well I got it shrunk down so mindi built me some disks, 4 to be exact.
Now I
> > >can't write them.  They're 1.72MB and my drive keeps on telling me it's
out of
> > >space when I try and write them using dd.  I can't remember if there's
> > >something else to do to the disks to make this work.
> >
> > you need to dd to /dev/fd0u1722 as opposed to plain old /dev/fd0, not
all
> > drives support this. Also your images will probably need to be 1722 kb
in size
> > (perhaps a bit smaller). A good way to test your drive and disk to make
> > sure you can use this size is to try and fdformat /dev/fd0u1722 if it
barfs
> > with I/O Errors you're S.O.L.
>
> The fdformat on /dev/fd0u1722 seems to have fixed it.  Thanks.
>
> --
> Jon Schewe | http://mtu.net/~jpschewe | jpschewe at mtu.net
> For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels
> nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any
> powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all
> creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that
> is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:39:30 -0600
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] WAY-OT - A pic from NASA...
> From: florin at iucha.net (Florin Iucha)
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
>
> --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
> > > Please keep your mouth shut when you don't have anything usefull or
> > > funny to say; do troll elsewhere.
> >=20
> > My, but aren't we in a bad mood today.
>
> No, I am was not in a bad mood. It's just that random Hitler references=20
> in order to simulate the application of Godwin's Law are completely
> silly and way more off-topic that the thread they intend to kill.
> (I say "simulate" because Godwin's law doesn't force Hitler as a EOT: go
> back and read it.)
>
> And b) the message thread hat OT so you can safely delete if it hurts
> your eyes and wastes your time.
>
> And on the third hand, it started with networking aboard the space
> station and drifted on to generar space age tech, which is almost as
> ontopic to a Linux geet mailing list as questions about
> samba/mailman/exim (They just happen to run on Linux and we assume the
> poster tried to make them work on Linux).
>
> florin
>
> --=20
>
> "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is."
>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com>
> To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:44:00 -0600
> Subject: [TCLUG] ssl in virtualhosts
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> I read somewhere that it's not possible with apache to use SSL with name
> based VirtualHosts.  It's because the SSL connection gets established
before
> the http request goes across, so it won't know what certificate to give
you.
>
>
> Is this still true?  Are there any workarounds?  I don't really wanna have
> to use up a different IP for each virtual host if I don't have to.
>
> Jay
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] WAY-OT - A pic from NASA...
> From: "Samir M. Nassar" <nassarsa at redconcepts.net>
> To: Twin Cities LUG <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Date: 07 Mar 2002 11:02:53 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Actually Florin I am trying to install exim on Microsoft Windows XP
> Professional.
>
> It has a mouse, a background and Netscape, so it should be just like
> Linux 7.2 right?
>
> --
> Samir M. Nassar
> RedConcepts.NET - We Build Communities
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> From: Munir Nassar <nassarmu at redconcepts.net>
> Organization: RedConcepts.NET
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] ssl in virtualhosts
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:15:00 -0600
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 10:44 am, Austad, Jay wrote:
> > I read somewhere that it's not possible with apache to use SSL with name
> > based VirtualHosts.  It's because the SSL connection gets established
> > before the http request goes across, so it won't know what certificate
> > to give you.
>
> last i checked that is not true, i installed apache and mod_ssl from
> source and if everything goes ok it should create a sample ssl enabled
> virtual host for you,
>
> let me know off-list if you want my httpd.conf
>
>  -munir
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:26:22 -0600 (CST)
> From: Brian <lxy at cloudnet.com>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: [TCLUG] Kylix 2 open edition
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Does anyone know where I can download Kylix 2 open edition other than
> Borland?  Their site forces me to open an account and take a survey.  I
> don't like that in the frst place, but then their form won't work
> correctly.  I don't know if it's just a mozilla problem or if the form is
> really broken.  Anyway, I just want a copy of some free software and the
> company that's giving it away isn't giving it to me.  Can anyone point me
> to a copy of it?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:32:24 -0600
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Kylix 2 open edition
> From: florin at iucha.net (Florin Iucha)
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
>
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> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:26:22AM -0600, Brian wrote:
> > Does anyone know where I can download Kylix 2 open edition other than
> > Borland?  Their site forces me to open an account and take a survey.  I
> > don't like that in the frst place, but then their form won't work
> > correctly.  I don't know if it's just a mozilla problem or if the form
is
> > really broken.  Anyway, I just want a copy of some free software and the
> > company that's giving it away isn't giving it to me.  Can anyone point
me
> > to a copy of it?
>
> 1. Kylix2 is not free software. Borland isn't giving it away for free
> (they ask for all that information in exchange...).
>
> 2. Even if you get it, when you install it it asks for a serial number.
> That serial number you get by navigating all the hoops on Borland's
> site.
>
> Cheers,
> florin
>
> --=20
>
> "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is."
>
> 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6  03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4
>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> From: Kelly Black <kelly-black at mediaone.net>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:09:20 -0600
> Subject: [TCLUG] OpenSSH local root exploit
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Crap:
> Local root hole.  Could be more remote, but untested...
> More info here:
> http://www.pine.nl/advisories/pine-cert-20020301.txt
>
> Patch-em if ya got em!
> Looks like it includes up to v3.0.2
>
> Kelly Black
> KB0GBJ
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 17
> From: Kelly Black <kelly-black at mediaone.net>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:11:31 -0600
> Subject: [TCLUG] Re: OpenSSH local root exploit
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Oh, yeah.  Don't forget to HUP!
> (I always forget to hup sshd to get the new version, but this time
> I thought I would pass this info on.)
>
> Kelly
>
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 12:09, Kelly Black wrote:
> > Crap:
> > Local root hole.  Could be more remote, but untested...
> > More info here:
> > http://www.pine.nl/advisories/pine-cert-20020301.txt
> >
> > Patch-em if ya got em!
> > Looks like it includes up to v3.0.2
> >
> > Kelly Black
> > KB0GBJ
>
>
> --__--__--
>
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