Quoting Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom (chrome at real-time.com): > free co-lo > free ISDN (I can't get cable or DSL) > a largely bullshit-free environment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, having to deal with Nate every now and then can suck! :-P I guess the bottomline is a "good" place to work and often offset a big pay check. I believe the opposite is true as well, a big pay check can back a "bad" place to work bareable. -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org, Minnesota, Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 http://www.tcwug.org, Minnesota, Wireless | Coding isn't a crime. Fingerprint: 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3