As a person with no ideological tie to unix based operating systems or open source software it appears that the majority of posts on this list take some sort of shot, large or small, at Microsoft. I'm glad someone else made this point, I was really considering making it myself after the recent post regarding exchange alternatives but hesitated thinking maybe I'm the odd-ball out here (mainly due to the volume of posts bashing microsoft). The reason I mention the post asking about exchange and outlook is that it seemed even more obnoxious than usual. It appeared that this person wanted any alternative to Microsoft products irregardless of whether or not they were "better", the fact that they would not be Microsoft seemed sufficient to this person. Maybe it's part of an ideology that anything open source *must* be better than anything corporate (I would disagree, I can find you many examples in which that assumption is false, in fact I would venture to say that the majority of corporate software is "better" than the majority of open source software). I think that person is doing their boss and company a disservice in catagorically rejecting all things Microsoft rather than making an objective cost-benifit analysis. There are days that after reading posts to this list I get the impression the entire Linux "community" is made up of communists and anarchists that care less about quality of software than they do about beating big business. Personally I find advantages and disadvatages to both Microsoft and open source products. Having been a software developer long enough to remember when it was commonplace to have multiple platforms in any given company I find it nice to be able to write code once (all for WIN32) and know that it will run everywhere in a given company. Think how much simpler install routines are for the whole WIN32 family than they are for the multitude of unixes. On the other hand I'm a big fan of Apache, having done a lot of web development over the past several years I've come to appreciate Apache much more than IIS. Anyway, I think it's important to have an open mind and evaluate all aspects of a product/project rather than just knee-jerk rejection of all things Microsoft. Ben (getting off the soapbox) PS the previous email mentioned a steep learning curve and complex environment as one of the reasons for diehard devotion to Linux et al, but then why does that same atitude of zeolotry exist in the Mac camp when (up to OS9 anyway) they didn't even have a command line interface. They've always attempted to be the epitomy of intuitiveness.