Sparc keyboards, eh? Yeah, I'm familiar with them. Next question, does anyone really pay attention to keys they don't use? Honestly, unless you're bi/multilingual or have some other reason to use the compose key, it gets ignored as one of those "strange" keys on the "strange" Sparc, DEC, or WYSE keyboards. Now, speaking frankly about the layout of the Sparc keyboard w/the swapped capslock/control keys... Bad design decision, IMHO, but since people are used to it around here in the IMA, I sometimes have to deal with people's personal xmod setups where they've already done the swap. I don't mind working with these people, because they already have a greater knowledge base than the Windowites that come here and demand NT time. The greater the knowledge base, the less they ask stupid questions, and the happier we all are. If that wasn't a BOFH response, I don't know what is. Now, a Sparc keyboard layout doesn't bother me much with vi, but it's murder on your pinky with emacs. At least w/a STD 101/104 keyboard layout, you have two control keys to use, making emacs bearable. Now, if you want to talk about bad keyboards, try sitting at a WYSE terminal for a couple hours. -- Chad Walstrom <chewie at wookimus.net> | a.k.a. ^chewie http://www.wookimus.net/ | s.k.a. gunnarr -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20020701/4f23e217/attachment.pgp