Mr. Tanner, I don't want to lower the the TCLUG Mailing List to the lowest common denomenator. As much as I like getting being able to get fast responses and not have posts dropped or delayed for days this LUGML has more important things to do than just cater to the needs of newbies. Since you are the main benefactor of the TCLUGML I'll bow out to what you see best. After all, I have no measurable skills or knowledge to chip in so really I can't expect to have my cake and eat it too. Everyone, That said, is there an interest to start a mailing list that works as help desk and newbie question Mailing List? Many guys here have helped newbies with technical questions, errata and tips. Personally that would be prefferable to starting a whole new LUG Mailing List that basically copies the current one. It also might take some pressure of the current ML. I'd pitch in whatever I can to get this off the ground. Samir M. Nassar RedConcepts.NET