From follower at usfamily.net Sun Dec 1 00:31:48 2002 From: follower at usfamily.net (Fredrick Edward Fleming) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:45 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Opera References: <000801c298d7$5643f500$0200a8c0@w2kjoey> Message-ID: Still messing up. On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:48:37 -0600, Fredrick Edward Fleming wrote: > I think I have Opera working right. > -- Fredrick Edward Fleming ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ From sos at zjod.net Sun Dec 1 17:59:55 2002 From: sos at zjod.net (Steve Siegfried) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:45 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Connection attempts on tcp port 6290 Message-ID: <200212012356.gB1NuTt12960@zjod.net> Gang, I've recently started getting a number of connection attempts (> 80 in the last day) on tcp port 6290. www.iana.org says port 6290 is "unassigned". Google searches for "port 6290" come up empty. Anyone know what the deal is with TCP port 6290? thanks, -S From wilson at visi.com Sun Dec 1 21:56:36 2002 From: wilson at visi.com (Tim Wilson) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] controlling font size of X applications Message-ID: <200212012123.22806.wilson@visi.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I've got my X configuration set for 100 dpi fonts. That seems to work well except that one application that I use a lot, nedit, has very large menu fonts as a result. No amount of tweaking of the nedit options has produced a desirable text font either. I think it's possible to set some font settings on a per-application basis. Is this true? Anybody got a clue stick handy that they could whack me with? - -Tim - -- Tim Wilson Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA Science teacher, Linux fan, Zope developer, Grad. student, Daddy mailto:wilson@visi.com | http://qwerk.org/ | public key: 0x8C0F8813 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE96tIqB56RQ4wPiBMRAujdAJ4uzvY2QGV8GNfA5Fqx3q2NVrjCAQCgn9Xf IAsbupsH/51/PKuFLDHcz0A= =43zC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sfertch at real-time.com Sun Dec 1 21:58:07 2002 From: sfertch at real-time.com (Shawn Fertch) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] What am I doing wrong. In-Reply-To: <3DE97054.85F3F975@usfamily.net> References: <3DE97054.85F3F975@usfamily.net> Message-ID: <20021201213712.24a6d1c5.sfertch@real-time.com> On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 20:13:40 -0600 Fredrick Edward Fleming wrote: > follower@usfamily.net > SMTP service unavailable[500 Unknown command] > What an I doing wrong here. I am using opera. > what are you trying to do and on what OS? You've sent 4 messages to the list saying it's working, then it's not, then it is. My guess is that it looks like you're trying to get an external e-mail client to open up for you or send out a message. Check your mail client settings. Shawn From gkrueger at cleosci.com Sun Dec 1 22:39:09 2002 From: gkrueger at cleosci.com (Garrett Krueger) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Partions References: <000801c298d7$5643f500$0200a8c0@w2kjoey> <1038716156.5361.147.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3DEADB5D.2DE6605B@cleosci.com> Often I will put up the following partitions: / 0.5 gig - 1 gig /var 2 gig - 10 gigs (depending upon how much space you will use for a web server) /usr everything else For small (or no) web servers, 2 gigs on /var is great, but for large web server requirements, I'd go closer to 10 gigs. Garrett Krueger Brady Hegberg wrote: > I mainly have experience with setting up webservers and the Redhat > default server partition setup is pretty good for that but I've had > trouble with a couple things: > > 1. Redhat makes /var very small which isn't so bad except a few apps > like to put their data in /var (like mySQL and Apache.) So if you want > to leave those in the default places I'd give /var at least a couple > gigs. > > 2. Even if you make /var big enough eventually something will happen > that will make one of your log files go crazy and fill up your entire > /var partition which will kill any applications (mySQL) that use it to > store data. So I'd think seriously about giving /var/log it's own > partition off someplace where it can't take any other processes down > with it. > > I'd be interested to know how other people handle this stuff. I suppose > a production database should usually run on it's own partition but it > seems like overkill when the database is 5MB and not growing. > > Brady > > > Can someone please give me some advice partitioning a Red Hat 8.0 > > install? > > I have a 60Gig hard drive and want to do a server install. > > EventuallyI want to add VMWare for several Windows versions. I am > > confused as to the amount of space and how many partitions. > > Thank you > > Chuck Licha > > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From list at slushpupie.com Mon Dec 2 08:29:47 2002 From: list at slushpupie.com (Jay Kline) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Partions In-Reply-To: <1038716156.5361.147.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <000801c298d7$5643f500$0200a8c0@w2kjoey> <1038716156.5361.147.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200212020734.50316.list@slushpupie.com> On Saturday 30 November 2002 10:15 pm, Brady Hegberg wrote: > I mainly have experience with setting up webservers and the Redhat > default server partition setup is pretty good for that but I've had > trouble with a couple things: > > 1. Redhat makes /var very small which isn't so bad except a few apps > like to put their data in /var (like mySQL and Apache.) So if you want > to leave those in the default places I'd give /var at least a couple > gigs. Another big one people sometimes forget about is /var/spool/ If you are running a server that does spooling (mail, print, etc) make sure you have enough space there to handle a big influx. I found a 500Mb partition for /var isnt enough if you have 4 people consistantly using the same box to print. You will eventully run out of space. > 2. Even if you make /var big enough eventually something will happen > that will make one of your log files go crazy and fill up your entire > /var partition which will kill any applications (mySQL) that use it to > store data. So I'd think seriously about giving /var/log it's own > partition off someplace where it can't take any other processes down > with it. Its best to know what sort of things you are running, and what you need to have logged. We generate close to 300Mb of logs per server per day, and need to keep a weeks worth of logs. Knowing that info helps a lot. > I'd be interested to know how other people handle this stuff. I suppose > a production database should usually run on it's own partition but it > seems like overkill when the database is 5MB and not growing. We got to the point where we watch all of our servers very closely, and all have large hard drives (60+Gb) that have good raid's- making installing much easer because we just use a single partition. This is not a good solution for everyone, and it depends on the server. We do this to our web servers, where the performance difference is almost nill for us, and we have everything loadbalanced, so the value of the data on a single drive isnt worth much to us. > > Can someone please give me some advice partitioning a Red Hat 8.0 > > install? > > I have a 60Gig hard drive and want to do a server install. > > EventuallyI want to add VMWare for several Windows versions. I am > > confused as to the amount of space and how many partitions. Think about the size of the virtual drives you want for windows, and how many different install's you want. VMWare is good in that a 2Gb disk image dosnt take up 2Gb until the drive is full- but you need to make sure you have enough space to place all of these. My workstation has 3 VMWare sessions, each with a 4G drive. I keep them all in my home directory, and /home is on a 15Gb partition. Should be enough for me. -- Jay Kline http://www.slushpupie.com From list at slushpupie.com Mon Dec 2 08:30:53 2002 From: list at slushpupie.com (Jay Kline) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Partions In-Reply-To: <3DEADB5D.2DE6605B@cleosci.com> References: <000801c298d7$5643f500$0200a8c0@w2kjoey> <1038716156.5361.147.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3DEADB5D.2DE6605B@cleosci.com> Message-ID: <200212020738.39828.list@slushpupie.com> On Sunday 01 December 2002 10:02 pm, Garrett Krueger wrote: > Often I will put up the following partitions: > > / 0.5 gig - 1 gig > /var 2 gig - 10 gigs (depending upon how much space you will use for a > web server) > /usr everything else > > For small (or no) web servers, 2 gigs on /var is great, but for large web > server requirements, I'd go closer to 10 gigs. In some cases you will still have some home directorys in /home that get used to some degree, you may want to increase the size of / or give /home its own partition. Its always best to do a little research in how you think it will be used (web servers with no user accounts that store their data in /var dont need much of a /home ) -- Jay Kline http://www.slushpupie.com From cdf123 at cdf123.com Mon Dec 2 08:32:46 2002 From: cdf123 at cdf123.com (Chris Frederick) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] msec Questions Message-ID: <1038539770.10319.20.camel@laptop.cdf123.com> I just set up a server machine with Mandrake 9.0, and I'm pretty used to Mandrake by now. I actually set up this server without X. For most of the installs of Mandrake I've done in the past I simply removed the link to msec in the /etc/cron.* folders. But as I'm hoping to use this as a real server (with people accessing it other than me), there's quite a few things I know it does that I'd like to keep (and quite a lot more that I'm unaware of). I was wondering if anyone here has any experience configuring it, or has links to some good HOWTOs or other info. My specific problem now is I do a lot of remote access (ssh) and msec keeps changing the hosts.deny file to deny all access. If anyone can help with that, that would work too. Thanks a ton everyone. Chris Frederick p.s. In the spirit of Thanksgiving, I'd like to add that this group has helped me out a lot. This is a great community and I hope someday I can repay the knowledge and help I've received to some other future LUGites. thx all -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20021202/dcaa27ac/attachment.html From veldy at veldy.net Mon Dec 2 12:48:04 2002 From: veldy at veldy.net (Thomas T. Veldhouse) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] What am I doing wrong. References: <3DE97054.85F3F975@usfamily.net> <20021201213712.24a6d1c5.sfertch@real-time.com> Message-ID: <016801c29a2b$e072b400$c00c460a@pro.tl.thomcorp.net> I have told him that privately, and have not received a response. It is rather frustrating ... Tom Veldhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Fertch" To: Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [TCLUG] What am I doing wrong. > On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 20:13:40 -0600 > Fredrick Edward Fleming wrote: > > > follower@usfamily.net > > SMTP service unavailable[500 Unknown command] > > What an I doing wrong here. I am using opera. > > > > what are you trying to do and on what OS? You've sent 4 messages to the list saying it's working, then it's not, then it is. > > My guess is that it looks like you're trying to get an external e-mail client to open up for you or send out a message. Check your mail client settings. > > Shawn > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From jimstreit at northlans.com Mon Dec 2 22:01:18 2002 From: jimstreit at northlans.com (Jim Streit) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] SMTP authentication Message-ID: <1680.192.168.70.25.1038884804.squirrel@www.northlans.com> I'm running a sendmail 8.11.6 mail server behind a firewall. I allow internal users get mail from the server with POP3 and send messages out with SMTP thru the server. I did this by allowing the local network to relay off the server What I would like to do is allow users from the outside of my firewall to be able to get their messages with POP and be able to send messages thru my sendmail SMTP server. I want to be able to have my remote users to be able to setup POP and SMTP server information in their e-mail client like they would for an ISP. The remote users will have different IP addresses My question, how do I setup my sendmail server to only allow authenticated users to be able to send mail thru my server, and not make the server an open relay. (Like an ISP) I've searched Yahoo and a sendmail book, but I haven't really found what I'm looking for. (I don't know if I've been using the correct terminology, so far i've been looking for things like - client smtp authentication relay ...) Does anyone know how to do what I'm to do, or can point me in the right direction. Thanks for any help Jim Streit From follower at usfamily.net Tue Dec 3 05:29:43 2002 From: follower at usfamily.net (Fredrick Edward Fleming) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] What am I doing wrong. References: <3DE97054.85F3F975@usfamily.net> <20021201213712.24a6d1c5.sfertch@real-time.com> <016801c29a2b$e072b400$c00c460a@pro.tl.thomcorp.net> Message-ID: I am sorry! I have had a stroke and am trying to work on this thing. I seem to get messages out of here, but it show me error message.Right now I an useing a windows program, because I cannot get into my Linux, I can get into the Linux program of Caldera but I cannot get into my Madgrake, or SuSe program to send mail. I cannot change the Caldera to conect to the ISP. to say the lease, I am fighting this and trying to get it working. Thanky you for the help, I am getting thing slowly together here. On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:54:34 -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > I have told him that privately, and have not received a response. It is > rather frustrating ... > > Tom Veldhouse > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shawn Fertch" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] What am I doing wrong. > > >> On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 20:13:40 -0600 >> Fredrick Edward Fleming wrote: >> >> > follower@usfamily.net >> > SMTP service unavailable[500 Unknown command] >> > What an I doing wrong here. I am using opera. >> > >> >> what are you trying to do and on what OS? You've sent 4 messages to the > list saying it's working, then it's not, then it is. >> >> My guess is that it looks like you're trying to get an external e-mail > client to open up for you or send out a message. Check your mail client > settings. >> >> Shawn >> _______________________________________________ >> Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota >> http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org >> https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -- Fredrick Edward Fleming ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ From jima at beer.tclug.org Tue Dec 3 08:45:30 2002 From: jima at beer.tclug.org (Jima) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] SMTP authentication In-Reply-To: <1680.192.168.70.25.1038884804.squirrel@www.northlans.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Jim Streit wrote: *snip: what he's trying to accomplish* > My question, how do I setup my sendmail server to only allow > authenticated users to be able to send mail thru my server, and not make > the server an open relay. (Like an ISP) > > I've searched Yahoo and a sendmail book, but I haven't really found what > I'm looking for. (I don't know if I've been using the correct > terminology, so far i've been looking for things like - client smtp > authentication relay ...) Does anyone know how to do what I'm to do, or > can point me in the right direction. I think what you're looking for is SASL, Simple Authentication and Security Layer. I'm not sure what distro/release you're using, but it looks like RedHat's included SASL in their sendmail RPMs since at least 7.2, which is nice, because I've had to patch the one from 6.2. Here's the URL that got me started with SASL: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html Hopefully this is what you needed. Jima From tanner at real-time.com Tue Dec 3 12:54:55 2002 From: tanner at real-time.com (Bob Tanner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] SMTP authentication In-Reply-To: <1680.192.168.70.25.1038884804.squirrel@www.northlans.com> References: <1680.192.168.70.25.1038884804.squirrel@www.northlans.com> Message-ID: <200212031022.48499.tanner@real-time.com> On Monday 02 December 2002 09:06 pm, Jim Streit wrote: > I'm running a sendmail 8.11.6 mail server behind a firewall. I allow > internal users get mail from the server with POP3 and send messages out > with SMTP thru the server. I did this by allowing the local network to > relay off the server First SHUT-OFF pop and turn on pop-ssl and/or imap-ssl. Don't let your username and passwords be sprayed all over the Internet. For the rest of your questions: Extended Features of Sendmail (SMTP AUTH and STARTTLS) http://www.mn-linux.org/members/tanner/presentations/Sendmail+SMTP_AUTH/html/Sendmail+SMTP_AUTH.htm -- Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org, Minnesota, Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 http://www.linuxjustworks.com | Linux Just Works! Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288 From hbdarcy at stthomas.edu Tue Dec 3 13:58:20 2002 From: hbdarcy at stthomas.edu (Hamlet D'Arcy) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Partitions w/ Fat32 con't In-Reply-To: <3DEADB5D.2DE6605B@cleosci.com> References: <000801c298d7$5643f500$0200a8c0@w2kjoey> <1038716156.5361.147.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3DEADB5D.2DE6605B@cleosci.com> Message-ID: <3DED002E.5020505@stthomas.edu> Hi all, Thanks for the previous help getting my FAT32 partition to mount at startup. All the talk on the list about partitions has created some more questions though... I'm curious what you think would be the best way to set up my mount points. I currently have a dual boot Win2K and Redhat Linux installation. My drive has three partitions: A 5 Gig NTFS for the Win2K OS, A 5 Gig NFS for Linux, and a 20 Gig FAT32 for Win2K applications and data files. I use the FAT32 to install all my applications and any data files I want in Windows. The original intention was to be able to reformat and reinstall the Windows without wiping out my non OS files. It is FAT32 because when I set up the system FAT32 was all Mandrake supported, but it looks like my RedHat can see the NTFS partition now as well. Anyway, as I use Linux more and more I am beginning to want more space on the Linux partition to install applications. Being new to *nix I'm not an expert at the file tree, but it seems that all my applications are installing under /usr or /usr/local. What I'd like to do is just mount the FAT32 partition to the /usr directory, which (I think) would effectively give me 20 Gig more space to install applications. My question is: is this a good way to do this or is it an ugly hack? Will FAT32's lack of NFS permissions hurt any of the installed applications? It obviously lowers the security of the Linux install, and managing multiple users executable permissions would be more difficult. But it is a home computer and I'm not too concerned about other user's privileges (perhaps I should be though). Also, if I did this, should I reformat the partition into NTFS instead of FAT32? I'm concerned about access speed to the drive through Linux. I'd like to start running more games out of Linux and would like the fastest format possible, understanding that it can't be NFS b/c I still need to boot to Windows periodically. Well, thanks in advance for the discussion -- Hamlet D'Arcy hbdarcy@stthomas.edu From blutgens at us-admins.com Tue Dec 3 14:02:10 2002 From: blutgens at us-admins.com (Ben Lutgens) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] SMTP authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5A5750B2-06F7-11D7-9CD0-000393B93C2A@us-admins.com> On Tuesday, Dec 3, 2002, at 07:42 US/Central, Jima wrote: Exim supports this out of the box. SMTP AUTH TLS is what you're after. With an additional pam module you can auth via pam. http://www.exim.org/ http://www.e-admin.de/pam_exim/ *shrug* works for me. > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Jim Streit wrote: > *snip: what he's trying to accomplish* >> My question, how do I setup my sendmail server to only allow >> authenticated users to be able to send mail thru my server, and not >> make >> the server an open relay. (Like an ISP) >> >> I've searched Yahoo and a sendmail book, but I haven't really found >> what >> I'm looking for. (I don't know if I've been using the correct >> terminology, so far i've been looking for things like - client smtp >> authentication relay ...) Does anyone know how to do what I'm to do, >> or >> can point me in the right direction. > > I think what you're looking for is SASL, Simple Authentication and > Security Layer. I'm not sure what distro/release you're using, but it > looks like RedHat's included SASL in their sendmail RPMs since at least > 7.2, which is nice, because I've had to patch the one from 6.2. > Here's the URL that got me started with SASL: > > http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html > > Hopefully this is what you needed. > > Jima > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From blutgens at us-admins.com Tue Dec 3 14:02:20 2002 From: blutgens at us-admins.com (Ben Lutgens) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] SMTP authentication In-Reply-To: <200212031022.48499.tanner@real-time.com> Message-ID: <7BF64FE6-06F7-11D7-9CD0-000393B93C2A@us-admins.com> On Tuesday, Dec 3, 2002, at 10:22 US/Central, Bob Tanner wrote: > On Monday 02 December 2002 09:06 pm, Jim Streit wrote: >> I'm running a sendmail 8.11.6 mail server behind a firewall. I allow >> internal users get mail from the server with POP3 and send messages >> out >> with SMTP thru the server. I did this by allowing the local network >> to >> relay off the server > > First SHUT-OFF pop and turn on pop-ssl and/or imap-ssl. Don't let your > username and passwords be sprayed all over the Internet. > > For the rest of your questions: > > Extended Features of Sendmail (SMTP AUTH and STARTTLS) > http://www.mn-linux.org/members/tanner/presentations/ > Sendmail+SMTP_AUTH/html/Sendmail+SMTP_AUTH.htm No offense bob but that presentation isn't very valuable to a n00b without narration. > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org, Minnesota, Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 > http://www.linuxjustworks.com | Linux Just Works! > Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288 > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From rpgoldman at real-time.com Tue Dec 3 15:44:28 2002 From: rpgoldman at real-time.com (rpgoldman@real-time.com) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? Message-ID: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> I just picked up a spindle of 4x Memorex CD-RWs. When I try to write them, cdrecord just grumbles that they're the wrong disk. But my machine and CD-RW drive are pretty new, so I think it should be ok. Any thoughts? Is this a cdrecord issue, or is it likely to be my drive? Thanks, R From veldy at veldy.net Tue Dec 3 17:23:09 2002 From: veldy at veldy.net (Thomas T. Veldhouse) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:46 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? References: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> Message-ID: <002601c29b1b$9303b070$0101a8c0@cascade> Did you try manually setting the speed to 4? cdrecord -v -data -dev=0,0,0 -speed=4 blank=fast Tom Veldhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:20 PM Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? > > I just picked up a spindle of 4x Memorex CD-RWs. When I try to write > them, cdrecord just grumbles that they're the wrong disk. But my > machine and CD-RW drive are pretty new, so I think it should be ok. > Any thoughts? Is this a cdrecord issue, or is it likely to be my > drive? > > Thanks, > R > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From lxy at cloudnet.com Tue Dec 3 17:23:40 2002 From: lxy at cloudnet.com (Brian) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? In-Reply-To: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 rpgoldman@real-time.com wrote: > I just picked up a spindle of 4x Memorex CD-RWs. Did you try it with speed=4? The older discs were more sensitive to the write speed than they are now, so it may be that your new drive (I assume 32-48x ish) is trying to write 4x media an obscene speed and cdrecord is failing. -Brian From dante at plethora.net Tue Dec 3 17:26:28 2002 From: dante at plethora.net (Daniel Taylor) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? In-Reply-To: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 rpgoldman@real-time.com wrote: > > I just picked up a spindle of 4x Memorex CD-RWs. When I try to write > them, cdrecord just grumbles that they're the wrong disk. But my > machine and CD-RW drive are pretty new, so I think it should be ok. > Any thoughts? Is this a cdrecord issue, or is it likely to be my > drive? > Shiny side up? Or are they more clearly marked than that? -- Daniel Taylor dante@plethora.net Forget diamonds, Copyright is forever. From sfertch at real-time.com Tue Dec 3 19:02:53 2002 From: sfertch at real-time.com (Shawn Fertch) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Partitions w/ Fat32 con't In-Reply-To: <3DED002E.5020505@stthomas.edu> References: <000801c298d7$5643f500$0200a8c0@w2kjoey> <1038716156.5361.147.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3DEADB5D.2DE6605B@cleosci.com> <3DED002E.5020505@stthomas.edu> Message-ID: <20021203182941.7c3679cb.sfertch@real-time.com> Here's how I have my system set up: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 746464 62888 645020 9% / /dev/hda5 4960476 1802788 2901456 39% /usr /dev/hda6 1492912 53176 1362628 4% /var /dev/hda7 1492912 130180 1285624 10% /home /dev/hda8 746432 16472 691408 3% /tmp /dev/hda9 1492912 274780 1141024 20% /opt /dev/hda1 20472816 11712736 8760080 58% /windows This is on a 45GB drive, with room to spare in LVM to extend out file systems as I need to. I personally wouldn't mount windows under another filesystem such as becoming /usr/windows. The sources I've looked at said to mount it as it's own separate partition. There are other alternatives such as either buying another disk specific to Linux, or to remove the apps and data you don't use on the windows partition and to reduce said partition and reallocate some of the space to Linux. Shawn On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:04:14 -0600 "Hamlet D'Arcy" wrote: > Hi all, > Thanks for the previous help getting my FAT32 partition to mount at > startup. > All the talk on the list about partitions has created some more > questions though... > > I'm curious what you think would be the best way to set up my mount > points. I currently have a dual boot Win2K and Redhat Linux > installation. My drive has three partitions: > A 5 Gig NTFS for the Win2K OS, > A 5 Gig NFS for Linux, > and a 20 Gig FAT32 for Win2K applications and data files. > > I use the FAT32 to install all my applications and any data files I > want in Windows. The original intention was to be able to reformat and > > reinstall the Windows without wiping out my non OS files. It is FAT32 > because when I set up the system FAT32 was all Mandrake supported, but > > it looks like my RedHat can see the NTFS partition now as well. > From rpgoldman at real-time.com Tue Dec 3 21:31:50 2002 From: rpgoldman at real-time.com (rpgoldman@real-time.com) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? In-Reply-To: References: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> Message-ID: <15853.27429.237204.23444@tsathoggua.mydomain> Daniel Taylor writes: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 rpgoldman@real-time.com wrote: > > > > > I just picked up a spindle of 4x Memorex CD-RWs. When I try to write > > them, cdrecord just grumbles that they're the wrong disk. But my > > machine and CD-RW drive are pretty new, so I think it should be ok. > > Any thoughts? Is this a cdrecord issue, or is it likely to be my > > drive? > > > Shiny side up? Or are they more clearly marked than that? Pretty clearly marked actually. Nice try :-) R From jimstreit at northlans.com Tue Dec 3 21:32:31 2002 From: jimstreit at northlans.com (Jim Streit) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] SMTP authentication In-Reply-To: <200212031022.48499.tanner@real-time.com> References: <1680.192.168.70.25.1038884804.squirrel@www.northlans.com> <200212031022.48499.tanner@real-time.com> Message-ID: <1064.192.168.70.25.1038970404.squirrel@www.northlans.com> Great, thanks for the tips and information. > On Monday 02 December 2002 09:06 pm, Jim Streit wrote: >> I'm running a sendmail 8.11.6 mail server behind a firewall. I >> allow internal users get mail from the server with POP3 and send >> messages out with SMTP thru the server. I did this by allowing the >> local network to relay off the server > > First SHUT-OFF pop and turn on pop-ssl and/or imap-ssl. Don't let your > username and passwords be sprayed all over the Internet. > > For the rest of your questions: > > Extended Features of Sendmail (SMTP AUTH and STARTTLS) > http://www.mn-linux.org/members/tanner/presentations/Sendmail+SMTP_AUTH/html/Sendmail+SMTP_AUTH.htm > > -- > Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org, Minnesota, Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 > http://www.linuxjustworks.com | Linux Just Works! > Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288 > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From jimstreit at northlans.com Tue Dec 3 21:33:17 2002 From: jimstreit at northlans.com (Jim Streit) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] SMTP authentication In-Reply-To: References: <1680.192.168.70.25.1038884804.squirrel@www.northlans.com> Message-ID: <1073.192.168.70.25.1038970536.squirrel@www.northlans.com> Yep, this is what I was looking for. I'm running RH 7.3 Thanks for the point in the right direction. > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Jim Streit wrote: > *snip: what he's trying to accomplish* >> My question, how do I setup my sendmail server to only allow >> authenticated users to be able to send mail thru my server, and not >> make the server an open relay. (Like an ISP) >> >> I've searched Yahoo and a sendmail book, but I haven't really found >> what I'm looking for. (I don't know if I've been using the correct >> terminology, so far i've been looking for things like - client smtp >> authentication relay ...) Does anyone know how to do what I'm to do, >> or can point me in the right direction. > > I think what you're looking for is SASL, Simple Authentication and > Security Layer. I'm not sure what distro/release you're using, but it > looks like RedHat's included SASL in their sendmail RPMs since at > least 7.2, which is nice, because I've had to patch the one from 6.2. > Here's the URL that got me started with SASL: > > http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html > > Hopefully this is what you needed. > > Jima > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From rpgoldman at real-time.com Tue Dec 3 21:33:44 2002 From: rpgoldman at real-time.com (rpgoldman@real-time.com) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? In-Reply-To: References: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> Message-ID: <15853.28927.143601.903222@tsathoggua.mydomain> Brian writes: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 rpgoldman@real-time.com wrote: > > > I just picked up a spindle of 4x Memorex CD-RWs. > > Did you try it with speed=4? > > The older discs were more sensitive to the write speed than they are now, > so it may be that your new drive (I assume 32-48x ish) is trying to write > 4x media an obscene speed and cdrecord is failing. I don't THINK that can be it (although I'll try). The one CD-RW I had before this was an old one (Philips CD-RW 74min 640MB) that I got when I bought a burner for a different machine. That works fine. These are Memorex CD-RW 80min, 700 MB and don't work. Don't blank; don't write. Here's what I see when I try to use one of these puppies (two errors, one a blanking error and one a writing error): >cdrecord -force blank=fast dev=1,0,0 Cdrecord 1.11a31 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 J?rg Schilling scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info : 'AOPEN ' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRW3248 ' Revision : '1.09' Device seems to be: Generic CD-ROM. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R cdrecord: Input/output error. read disk info: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 09 01 00 00 Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x09 Qual 0x01 (tracking servo failure) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 240s cdrecord: Cannot get disk type. cdrecord: Input/output error. blank unit: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: A1 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 09 01 00 00 Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x09 Qual 0x01 (tracking servo failure) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 9600s ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > cdrecord -speed=4 dev=1,0,0 /tmp/copv-backup-27-nov-2002.img Cdrecord 1.11a31 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 J?rg Schilling scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info : 'AOPEN ' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRW3248 ' Revision : '1.09' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk! A little googling suggests that others (on Windows as well as Linux) are having trouble with these disks: Regarding 700MB versus 650MB cds, from cdrfaq.org: Subject: [3-8-1] How well do 80-minute CD-R blanks work? (2001/08/27) In general, they work just fine. Reports from people who have used 80-minute CD-Rs indicate that compatibility with different CD-ROM drives is very good. However, bear in mind the following statement, which was sent by e-mail from a TDK representative: "The CD-R80 is a special product developed by TDK to meet the application needs of software developers and music studios. To achieve its 80 minute recording time, track pitch and scanning velocity specification tolerances had to be minimized, reducing the margin of error between drive and media. This means limited compatibility between some CD-Recorders and CD-ROM Readers. If you intend to use this recording length, please check with your hardware manufacturer. Use of the CD-R80 is at one's own risk. No guarantees of performance are made by TDK." Whether it's better to use 80-minute discs or "overburning" (described in the next section) is a worthy subject for debate. Both can cause problems on different CD-ROM drives, and not all recorders are capable of doing one or the other. Because of consumer demand, nearly all recent drives can do both. An 80-minute disc has roughly 360,000 sectors instead of the usual 333,000. This increases the CD-ROM capacity from 650MB to 703MB. I think it's time to take these back to OfficeMax.... And I recommend you all dodge them, too. R From rclark at lakesplus.com Tue Dec 3 21:34:11 2002 From: rclark at lakesplus.com (Randy Clarksean) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program Message-ID: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> Ok ... I am looking for SIMPLE suggestions on what software there is out there that I could put on my Linux RH7.2 server (DSL connection) to be used for a calendar type program. The goal is to let a few groups of people access my "calendar," schedule meetings, check to see if I am busy, etc. all by just accessing the server. They all would be coming in over the web. I do not want to create a security nightmare by any means either. I want something that will simplify my life a bit and I do not want to reinvent the wheel. Has anybody out there implemented such a package? I am guessing someone has something like this so I thought I would ask the "expertise" of this group before searching for days. Thanks in advance! Randy "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." - Martin Luther King, Jr. ph: 218-385-3750 fax:218-385-3751 email: rclark@lakesplus.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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WebCalendar might be worth a look: http://www.math.utexas.edu/webcalendar/ also, Mozilla has a calendar feature: http://mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ -- Joel Schneider Jazz - jazz88fm.com joel@joelschneider.net ISEE - www.i-see.org From dante at plethora.net Wed Dec 4 01:11:54 2002 From: dante at plethora.net (Daniel Taylor) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Randy Clarksean wrote: > Ok ... I am looking for SIMPLE suggestions on what software there is out there that I could put on my Linux RH7.2 server (DSL connection) to be used for a calendar type program. The goal is to let a few groups of people access my "calendar," schedule meetings, check to see if I am busy, etc. all by just accessing the server. They all would be coming in over the web. I do not want to create a security nightmare by any means either. I want something that will simplify my life a bit and I do not want to reinvent the wheel. > > Has anybody out there implemented such a package? I am guessing someone has something like this so I thought I would ask the "expertise" of this group before searching for days. > Any of the iCal based calendaring software can do this, especially with Mozilla Calendar that you can subscribe to internet-available calendars with. Check the projects page from mozilla.org. -- Daniel Taylor dante@plethora.net Forget diamonds, Copyright is forever. From sfertch at real-time.com Wed Dec 4 01:12:28 2002 From: sfertch at real-time.com (Shawn Fertch) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? In-Reply-To: <15853.27429.237204.23444@tsathoggua.mydomain> References: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> <15853.27429.237204.23444@tsathoggua.mydomain> Message-ID: <20021203225806.4874137e.sfertch@real-time.com> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 20:40:37 -0600 rpgoldman@real-time.com wrote: > Daniel Taylor writes: > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 rpgoldman@real-time.com wrote: > > > > > > > > I just picked up a spindle of 4x Memorex CD-RWs. When I try to > > > write them, cdrecord just grumbles that they're the wrong disk. > > > But my machine and CD-RW drive are pretty new, so I think it > > > should be ok. Any thoughts? Is this a cdrecord issue, or is it > > > likely to be my drive? > > > > > Shiny side up? Or are they more clearly marked than that? > > Pretty clearly marked actually. Nice try :-) > Just a thought, but I recall someone saying they had some issues with PNY cd's. eing these are older 4x discs, I wonder if by chance you might be runnin into the same problem? I saw you mentioned that you used an older disc and it worked fine, it was a 640MB right? Another thought, any chance that this burner or software doesn't know how to recognize 700MB CD-R/W formatting (if there's a difference?)? Shawn From sfertch at real-time.com Wed Dec 4 01:16:46 2002 From: sfertch at real-time.com (Shawn Fertch) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> Message-ID: <20021203230216.0df38e9e.sfertch@real-time.com> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:21:43 -0600 "Randy Clarksean" wrote: > Ok ... I am looking for SIMPLE suggestions on what software there is > out there that I could put on my Linux RH7.2 server (DSL connection) > to be used for a calendar type program. The goal is to let a few > groups of people access my "calendar," schedule meetings, check to see > if I am busy, etc. all by just accessing the server. They all would > be coming in over the web. I do not want to create a security > nightmare by any means either. I want something that will simplify my > life a bit and I do not want to reinvent the wheel. > > Has anybody out there implemented such a package? I am guessing > someone has something like this so I thought I would ask the > "expertise" of this group before searching for days. > > Thanks in advance! > Haven't played much with it, but it's a quick CGI script that you can use .htaccess on. It's called "My Calendar" which can be found at: http://www.fuzzymonkey.org/newfuzzy/software/perl/ Not sure if that's quite what you're looking for. One of our own lugger's helped with the coding. Shawn From scot at thinkunix.net Wed Dec 4 01:18:17 2002 From: scot at thinkunix.net (Scot Jenkins) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office>; from rclark@lakesplus.com on Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 09:21:43PM -0600 References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> Message-ID: <20021203233534.A20595@okane.localnet> try webcalendar; http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net/ if you want email too some other options are squirrelmail, phpgroupware, horde/imp, etc. try searching http://freshmeat.net/ when looking for applications. Randy Clarksean wrote: > Ok ... I am looking for SIMPLE suggestions on what software there is out there that I could put on my Linux RH7.2 server (DSL connection) to be used for a calendar type program. -- -scot From tanner at real-time.com Wed Dec 4 07:16:25 2002 From: tanner at real-time.com (Bob Tanner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Nice of Microsoft to pay for SF! Message-ID: <20021204012943.A9667@real-time.com> From wilson at visi.com Wed Dec 4 07:36:56 2002 From: wilson at visi.com (Tim Wilson) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:47 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <20021203233534.A20595@okane.localnet> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> <20021203233534.A20595@okane.localnet> Message-ID: <200212040711.51879.wilson@visi.com> On Tuesday 03 December 2002 23:35, Scot Jenkins wrote: > try webcalendar; http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net/ > > if you want email too some other options are squirrelmail, phpgroupware, > horde/imp, etc. But do any of them sync with a PalmPilot? Now that would be cool. -Tim -- Tim Wilson Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA Science teacher, Linux fan, Zope developer, Grad. student, Daddy mailto:wilson@visi.com | http://qwerk.org/ | public key: 0x8C0F8813 From amy at real-time.com Wed Dec 4 13:29:38 2002 From: amy at real-time.com (Amy Tanner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <20021203233534.A20595@okane.localnet> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> <20021203233534.A20595@okane.localnet> Message-ID: <20021204132231.GV9536@real-time.com> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 11:35:34PM -0600, Scot Jenkins (scot@thinkunix.net) wrote: > try webcalendar; http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net/ Agreed - I've used it for a long time. It's simple to setup and pretty flexible. -- Amy Tanner amy@real-time.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When I try to > > > > write them, cdrecord just grumbles that they're the wrong disk. > > > > But my machine and CD-RW drive are pretty new, so I think it > > > > should be ok. Any thoughts? Is this a cdrecord issue, or is it > > > > likely to be my drive? > > > > > > > Shiny side up? Or are they more clearly marked than that? > > > > Pretty clearly marked actually. Nice try :-) > > > > Just a thought, but I recall someone saying they had some issues > with PNY cd's. eing these are older 4x discs, I wonder if by > chance you might be runnin into the same problem? I saw you > mentioned that you used an older disc and it worked fine, it was a > 640MB right? > > Another thought, any chance that this burner or software doesn't > know how to recognize 700MB CD-R/W formatting (if there's a > difference?)? > Thanks. Looks to me as if the 700 MB R/Ws violate the standards and try to fit too much on. Many drives seem to have this problem (see my previous email with quote from TDK person. Anyway, seems like people should stay away from these unless they're sure they'll be compatible. I'm gonna go try to find some 640s.... R From nate at refried.org Wed Dec 4 13:35:01 2002 From: nate at refried.org (nate@refried.org) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> Message-ID: <20021204135857.GA2748@refried.org> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 09:21:43PM -0600, Randy Clarksean wrote: > Ok ... I am looking for SIMPLE suggestions on what software there is > out there that I could put on my Linux RH7.2 server (DSL connection) > to be used for a calendar type program. The goal is to let a few > groups of people access my "calendar," schedule meetings, check to see > if I am busy, etc. all by just accessing the server. They all would > be coming in over the web. I saw a presentation on PHPGroupware a few years ago and it looked really good for a web based shared calendar solution. Nate From kelly.black at penguinpackets.com Wed Dec 4 13:38:14 2002 From: kelly.black at penguinpackets.com (Kelly Black) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <20021203230216.0df38e9e.sfertch@real-time.com> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> <20021203230216.0df38e9e.sfertch@real-time.com> Message-ID: <1039011022.16418.10.camel@edith> This one is fun: http://www.math.utexas.edu/webcalendar/ Kelly Black From kelly.black at penguinpackets.com Wed Dec 4 13:39:09 2002 From: kelly.black at penguinpackets.com (Kelly Black) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <20021203230216.0df38e9e.sfertch@real-time.com> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> <20021203230216.0df38e9e.sfertch@real-time.com> Message-ID: <1039011452.16642.12.camel@edith> This one I have used and it works well: http://bulldog.tzo.org/webcal/webcal.html It also says it will do Palm Pilot sync, but as I don't have one, I have not tried this feature. Kelly Black From jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org Wed Dec 4 13:39:55 2002 From: jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org (Joseph) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [Possibly OT] 4x CD-RWs unusable? References: <15853.8239.893953.561402@tsathoggua.mydomain> <15853.28927.143601.903222@tsathoggua.mydomain> Message-ID: <001201c29ba2$7284fac0$0439a8c0@tomobiki.dyndns.org> How old is the burner I have an old 6-4-2 CD-RW burner that doesn't like the new 700 MB disks. It works fine with the 650 MB disk but will not burn the 700 MB. The newer burner on the laptop will burn both disk fine. Joseph From jspinti at dartdist.com Wed Dec 4 13:40:37 2002 From: jspinti at dartdist.com (James Spinti) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Windows XP Message-ID: <200212040840.32075.jspinti@dartdist.com> A friend forwarded this to me, thought some of you could use it. It details the ways that XP ties you to MS. http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm -- Thanks, James Spinti jspinti at dartdist dot com 952-368-3278 ext 396 fax 952-368-3255 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20021204/7970c977/attachment.htm From tanner at real-time.com Wed Dec 4 13:53:50 2002 From: tanner at real-time.com (Bob Tanner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <200212040711.51879.wilson@visi.com> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> <20021203233534.A20595@okane.localnet> <200212040711.51879.wilson@visi.com> Message-ID: <200212041033.04734.tanner@real-time.com> On Wednesday 04 December 2002 07:11 am, Tim Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 03 December 2002 23:35, Scot Jenkins wrote: > > try webcalendar; http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net/ > > > > if you want email too some other options are squirrelmail, phpgroupware, > > horde/imp, etc. > > But do any of them sync with a PalmPilot? Now that would be cool. > > -Tim http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ Frequestly Asked Questions # Does it synch with my Palm Pilot? The calendar does not yet synch with your Palm Pilot. -- Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 From tanner at real-time.com Wed Dec 4 13:54:11 2002 From: tanner at real-time.com (Bob Tanner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] ftp.mn-linux.org offline for drive replacement 12/04/2002 at 17:00 CDT Message-ID: <200212041036.27945.tanner@real-time.com> Need to replace 1 drive in gladiator's RAID array. We will be taking down the box today (12/04/2002) at 17:00 CDT to swap the disks. Thanks. -- Bob Tanner | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 02E0 2734 A1A1 DBA1 0E15 623D 0036 7327 93D9 7DA3 From list at slushpupie.com Wed Dec 4 14:00:24 2002 From: list at slushpupie.com (Jay Kline) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program In-Reply-To: <20021203230216.0df38e9e.sfertch@real-time.com> References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> <20021203230216.0df38e9e.sfertch@real-time.com> Message-ID: <200212041301.09577.list@slushpupie.com> On Tuesday 03 December 2002 11:02 pm, Shawn Fertch wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:21:43 -0600 > > "Randy Clarksean" wrote: > > Has anybody out there implemented such a package? I am guessing > > someone has something like this so I thought I would ask the > > "expertise" of this group before searching for days. > > Haven't played much with it, but it's a quick CGI script that you can use > .htaccess on. It's called "My Calendar" which can be found at: > http://www.fuzzymonkey.org/newfuzzy/software/perl/ Its some decent software.. Its *really* simple, though. There is only one access level, so if you give someone access to modify your schedule, they can modify anything. It was more or less intended for one person modify, muti-person viewing. > Not sure if that's quite what you're looking for. One of our own lugger's > helped with the coding. Heh, it was one of those side projects I worked on a while ago.. If you use it, and make any changes to it (its just perl) let me or Mike (fuzzymonkey) know and we will more than likely incorporate the changes. Jay -- Jay Kline http://www.slushpupie.com From clay at fandre.com Wed Dec 4 14:00:50 2002 From: clay at fandre.com (Clay Fandre) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] [TCLUG-ANNOUNCE] No December Meeting Message-ID: <20021127232952.GB5454@spidey> There will be no December TCLUG meeting. See you all next year. -- Clay _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Linux Users Group Announcements - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-announce mailing list tclug-announce@mn-linux.org https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-announce From nate at refried.org Wed Dec 4 14:28:42 2002 From: nate at refried.org (nate@refried.org) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Windows XP In-Reply-To: <200212040840.32075.jspinti@dartdist.com> References: <200212040840.32075.jspinti@dartdist.com> Message-ID: <20021204201046.GA10539@refried.org> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 08:40:32AM -0600, James Spinti wrote: > A friend forwarded this to me, thought some of you could use it. It > details the ways that XP ties you to MS. > > http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm In the article it says there is a way to change which server XP syncs its time with. Anyone know how to change it? I send that information out with my DHCP information using the ntp field. It doesn't seem to pick that up. Nate From zibby+tclug at ringworld.org Wed Dec 4 14:29:58 2002 From: zibby+tclug at ringworld.org (Andy Zbikowski (Zibby)) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Those Olympus MO drives Message-ID: <1039032340.20805.27.camel@flycycle> Question to anyone who got in on the Olympus MO drive deal a good time back: Anyone notice their media/drive failing to be read? I was working with it last night and went through 4 MO disks that I have hardly used, and the drive would not read or write to them. Was odd. Just wondering if anyone has noticed anything similar. Perhaps it's just my unit failing. At least it was free. ;) From lxy at cloudnet.com Wed Dec 4 14:31:57 2002 From: lxy at cloudnet.com (Brian) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Windows XP In-Reply-To: <200212040840.32075.jspinti@dartdist.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, James Spinti wrote: > A friend forwarded this to me, thought some of you could use it. It > details the ways that XP ties you to MS. Lots of good info. I believe all these points are accurate, both from dissecting the XP license and monitoring it with tcpdump. Keep in mind, though, that some points are just dirty laundry statements against MS, such as the registry being a single point of failure (a thorn in my side since 95 rolled around. I'll take files neatly placed in /etc/ any day over that $#@%$##%#'n registry). What I'm wondering about is does this affect WinXP corporate edition as well? In the past, calling a number @ Microsoft and giving them all your business info could get you a *wink wink nudge nudge* key number that gave you enhanced functionality and a less restrictive license. Of course if you gave that out, they'd personally come to your office and tell you where you're going today, but it helped us get around the silly activation crap in Office XP. One legit key number to install X number of licenses, I'll take that! -Brian From lxy at cloudnet.com Wed Dec 4 15:29:42 2002 From: lxy at cloudnet.com (Brian) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Who's using OpenOffice? Message-ID: I need some examples so I can present a strong case for OpenOffice. We're stuck netween a rock and a hard place, and OpenOffice might save us. That is, if I can get the PHBs to listen. Whenever I say "linux", they say "no", before they've even heard what I have to say. They assume that free == crap. I had been thinking about raising the issue with PHBs, but I feared a solid "no" when I said the word "open". Then this morning, someone in our department comes up to me and asks me if I've ever heard of OpenOffice. Her husband uses it religiously, and supposedly he's heard of governements and huge businesses switching to it like mad. So, what I need are examples. Who here uses OpenOffice in a corporate environment? Who thinks OpenOffice is a worthless piece of crap? I need to hear both sides so I can present a clear case in all directions. Thanks! -Brian From clay at fandre.com Wed Dec 4 15:32:20 2002 From: clay at fandre.com (Clay Fandre) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:49 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Those Olympus MO drives In-Reply-To: <1039032340.20805.27.camel@flycycle> References: <1039032340.20805.27.camel@flycycle> Message-ID: <20021204203732.GA12056@spidey> Still have mine and it works fine. On Wed, 04 Dec 2002, Andy Zbikowski (Zibby) wrote: > Question to anyone who got in on the Olympus MO drive deal a good time > back: > > Anyone notice their media/drive failing to be read? I was working with > it last night and went through 4 MO disks that I have hardly used, and > the drive would not read or write to them. Was odd. > > Just wondering if anyone has noticed anything similar. Perhaps it's just > my unit failing. At least it was free. ;) > From natecars at real-time.com Wed Dec 4 16:11:41 2002 From: natecars at real-time.com (Nate Carlson) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:49 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Who's using OpenOffice? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Brian wrote: > Who thinks OpenOffice is a worthless piece of crap? I need to hear > both sides so I can present a clear case in all directions. For me, OpenOffice doesn't work worth anything under Linux - it's just too much a resource hog. I literally can't even do simple editing of a spreadsheet under it on either my desktop (P3-866, 512mb) or my laptop (P3-500, 512mb).. I've switched to koffice for most of my real work. Of course, one funny thing is that OO's worked great under Windows the few times I've tried it there.. go figure. -- Nate Carlson | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.real-time.com | Fax : (952)943-8500 From dante at plethora.net Wed Dec 4 16:13:41 2002 From: dante at plethora.net (Daniel Taylor) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:49 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Who's using OpenOffice? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Brian wrote: > I need some examples so I can present a strong case for OpenOffice. We're > stuck netween a rock and a hard place, and OpenOffice might save us. That > is, if I can get the PHBs to listen. Whenever I say "linux", they say > "no", before they've even heard what I have to say. They assume that > free == crap. > > I had been thinking about raising the issue with PHBs, but I feared a > solid "no" when I said the word "open". Then this morning, someone in our > department comes up to me and asks me if I've ever heard of > OpenOffice. Her husband uses it religiously, and supposedly he's heard of > governements and huge businesses switching to it like mad. > > So, what I need are examples. Who here uses OpenOffice in a corporate > environment? Who thinks OpenOffice is a worthless piece of crap? I need > to hear both sides so I can present a clear case in all directions. > > Thanks! > OpenOffice 1.0.1 is as compatible with MS Office as any two versions of MS Office are with each other in my experience. -- Daniel Taylor dante@plethora.net Forget diamonds, Copyright is forever. From foeclan at visi.com Wed Dec 4 16:14:12 2002 From: foeclan at visi.com (Michael Vieths) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:49 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Who's using OpenOffice? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There's an article here mentioning a few cases, including Verizon and Merrill Lynch. Might provide a good starting point for research. http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/19792.html You may also want to look into StarOffice, which is the version of OpenOffice that Sun sells and supports. Licensing info is here: http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/index.html Case studies here: http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/successstories/index.html -- Michael Vieths Foeclan@Visi.com On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Brian wrote: > I need some examples so I can present a strong case for OpenOffice. We're > stuck netween a rock and a hard place, and OpenOffice might save us. That > is, if I can get the PHBs to listen. Whenever I say "linux", they say > "no", before they've even heard what I have to say. They assume that > free == crap. > > I had been thinking about raising the issue with PHBs, but I feared a > solid "no" when I said the word "open". Then this morning, someone in our > department comes up to me and asks me if I've ever heard of > OpenOffice. Her husband uses it religiously, and supposedly he's heard of > governements and huge businesses switching to it like mad. > > So, what I need are examples. Who here uses OpenOffice in a corporate > environment? Who thinks OpenOffice is a worthless piece of crap? I need > to hear both sides so I can present a clear case in all directions. > > Thanks! > > -Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From troy.johnson at health.state.mn.us Wed Dec 4 16:14:55 2002 From: troy.johnson at health.state.mn.us (Troy.A Johnson) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:49 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Who's using OpenOffice? Message-ID: Brian, Our "unit" (a group of about 30 people) in the Minnesota Department of Health is evaluating Open Office 1.0.1 to replace our installation of Office 2000. It is installed on two Windows 2000 Servers running Citrix MetaFrame 1.8. It had some installation issues, but those can mostly be attributed to the shared windows environment (where many apps are installed and run via some kludge). It works, and seems to work well, but we've had it installed only a couple months now. Good luck, Troy >>> lxy@cloudnet.com 12/04/02 02:32PM >>> I need some examples so I can present a strong case for OpenOffice. We're stuck netween a rock and a hard place, and OpenOffice might save us. That is, if I can get the PHBs to listen. Whenever I say "linux", they say "no", before they've even heard what I have to say. They assume that free == crap. I had been thinking about raising the issue with PHBs, but I feared a solid "no" when I said the word "open". Then this morning, someone in our department comes up to me and asks me if I've ever heard of OpenOffice. Her husband uses it religiously, and supposedly he's heard of governements and huge businesses switching to it like mad. So, what I need are examples. Who here uses OpenOffice in a corporate environment? Who thinks OpenOffice is a worthless piece of crap? I need to hear both sides so I can present a clear case in all directions. Thanks! -Brian _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From jspinti at dartdist.com Wed Dec 4 18:22:51 2002 From: jspinti at dartdist.com (James Spinti) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:03:49 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Who's using OpenOffice? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200212041640.39453.jspinti@dartdist.com> On Wednesday 04 December 2002 02:32 pm, Brian wrote: > I need some examples so I can present a strong case for OpenOffice. > We're stuck netween a rock and a hard place, and OpenOffice might save > us. That is, if I can get the PHBs to listen. Whenever I say "linux", > they say "no", before they've even heard what I have to say. They > assume that free == crap. > > I had been thinking about raising the issue with PHBs, but I feared a > solid "no" when I said the word "open". Then this morning, someone in > our department comes up to me and asks me if I've ever heard of > OpenOffice. Her husband uses it religiously, and supposedly he's heard > of governements and huge businesses switching to it like mad. > > So, what I need are examples. Who here uses OpenOffice in a corporate > environment? Who thinks OpenOffice is a worthless piece of crap? I > need to hear both sides so I can present a clear case in all directions. > > Thanks! > > -Brian > We are giving all the new users here OpenOffice. No more purchases of MS Office. No complaints so far, it does everything they need. They are Win98/W2K machines. Granted, that is only about 3-4 users so far, but it will grow. We do have a few users that will need to stay on MS Office because of VB based macros that they have written. If I didn't already have the licenses, I would migrate all the rest over to it right now. I hand out OpenOffice CDs to people for home use when they want a recommendation for an Office Suite/Word Processor. The feedback from them has been good. It has saved them $$ and more than meets their needs. I use it on my Linux box and on my vmware Win sessions. I dont have MS Office on my machines at all, at work or home. I even convinced my son (18 yrs old) to use it on his Win32 box, and he likes it. The only drawbacks I have found are importing | delimited files (unloads from Informix). OO wants to put them in Writer, not Calc. But, that is what Gnumeric is for, or sed... And, it won't read WordPerfect files very well, but AbiWord does, and I'm the only person here that ever used WordPerfect, so that is not a real problem. It does still load too slow, but on Win32 they have some of it already in memory (it shows up in the system tray), which helps some. It's much faster than StarOffice 5.2 used to be :) -- Thanks, James Spinti jspinti at dartdist dot com 952-368-3278 ext 396 fax 952-368-3255 From jwickard at litriusgroup.com Fri Dec 6 00:49:21 2002 From: jwickard at litriusgroup.com (Joel Wickard) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:04:02 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Server Based "Calendar" Program References: <001801c29b44$4506f340$0201a8c0@office> <20021203233534.A20595@okane.localnet> <200212040711.51879.wilson@visi.com> Message-ID: <3DEE1257.8010000@litriusgroup.com> Tim Wilson wrote: >On Tuesday 03 December 2002 23:35, Scot Jenkins wrote: > > >>try webcalendar; http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net/ >> >>if you want email too some other options are squirrelmail, phpgroupware, >>horde/imp, etc. >> >> > >But do any of them sync with a PalmPilot? Now that would be cool. > >-Tim > > > there's a php cal program that sincs with a palm. I don't remember the name. I believe it's on sourceforge From jwickard at litriusgroup.com Fri Dec 6 00:49:49 2002 From: jwickard at litriusgroup.com (Joel Wickard) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:04:02 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Who's using OpenOffice? References: Message-ID: <3DEE778F.3020105@litriusgroup.com> Here's a good one for you. I have a few clients who have MS office for Mac. Every now and then he has word documents sent to him from people using Windows versions of office. He often recieves documents that won't open on his version of office, he then sends them to me, I open them with open office, re-save them and send them back to him so that he can read them ( he does this because he sent one to me the first time to just see if the file was corrupt, when I was able to open it I just resaved it to see if made any difference and it did). Brian wrote: >I need some examples so I can present a strong case for OpenOffice. We're >stuck netween a rock and a hard place, and OpenOffice might save us. That >is, if I can get the PHBs to listen. Whenever I say "linux", they say >"no", before they've even heard what I have to say. They assume that >free == crap. > >I had been thinking about raising the issue with PHBs, but I feared a >solid "no" when I said the word "open". Then this morning, someone in our >department comes up to me and asks me if I've ever heard of >OpenOffice. Her husband uses it religiously, and supposedly he's heard of >governements and huge businesses switching to it like mad. > >So, what I need are examples. Who here uses OpenOffice in a corporate >environment? Who thinks OpenOffice is a worthless piece of crap? I need >to hear both sides so I can present a clear case in all directions. > >Thanks! > >-Brian > >_______________________________________________ >Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org >https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >