Both of the exploits listed today are 'local exploits' meaning someone has to have a shell account or shell access before the system is vulnerable. If you aren't running a multi-user system I don't see them as a problem. I was about to upgrade all of my public ip systems this weekend until I decided its just not necessary (for me anyhow). -- Marc A. Ohmann Digital Solutions, Inc http://ds6.net marc at ds6.net